[Archived] The General Election 2015

[Mike E]

I think he looks fine. Like Frankie Boyle said recently:

He's called Jeremy and dresses like a Geography teacher. He couldn't be more British if he bled tea!

Re: Cameron I find him a slimy, repulsive creature anyway tbh. He has no credibility in my eyes. Rumour has it that they're about to cease funding for free school meals for infants in school.

If that happens on top of what they've already done to the poverty line and particularly to the disabled (given his experience with disability he should have a heart). He sickens me.

[K-Hod]

Never mind any of that, how can anyone trust a man that doesn't know what football team he supports?

[T J Hooker]

That looks a bit Russian to me, Freudian slip maybe?

Any way looking professional must have a different meaning in your circles TJ,

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=images+for+david+cameron+and+jeremy+corbyn&biw=1396&bih=952&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CB8QsARqFQoTCMnvlNmxiMgCFfQ72wodk5MG7A

If you look the part then people might take you seriously

I did say Professorial(as in he looks like a professor or teacher)

[yoda]

I did say Professorial(as in he looks like a professor or teacher)

It's a good point, not sure he is a leader though.

His biggest test is going to be trying to get his party on side and then convincing a majority of the electorate to vote for what will seem a rehash of Michael Foot's labour.

At least Foot wore suits that didn't look like he had borrowed them https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=professors&biw=1396&bih=952&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CC0QsARqFQoTCPPPj7XViMgCFcoEGgodZBQMeQ#tbm=isch&q=michael+foot+images

sometimes

[joey_big_nose]

What's so bloody weird about this is the former chairman of the Conservative party has orchestrated a huge hachet job in his own Prime Minister. Very bitter and vengeful.

Tories could be sailing into stormy waters. Sound like the subtext of this will be sounding out leadership challenges from the right. Also indicating to Cameron, Osbourne and Boris that the oligarch like donors want to be obeyed

.. While not going far enough Osbourne and Cameron have made a big play on tightening tax loopholes. I wonder if they will quiet down on that score, or take Ashcroft on?

[Baz]

Tax avoidance being dealt with by the Tories? Have you seen the list of Tory donors?

Theres a reason why Osbornes promised general tax avoidance legislation has never got past a brief mention at each years budget.

Tony Blair got a lot of stick for 'spin', he has nothing on Cameron and Osborne.

[RibbleValleyRover]

The actual book as far as I know said it might not even true or maybe even somebody else, but I guess those lefties are enjoying this right now. Ashcroft appears to have a bit of a grudge with Cameron and the Daily Mail well they have never liked Cameron as he is not right wing enough for them.

[Mike E]

The actual book as far as I know said it might not even true or maybe even somebody else, but I guess those lefties are enjoying this right now. Ashcroft appears to have a bit of a grudge with Cameron and the Daily Mail well they have never liked Cameron as he is not right wing enough for them.

Same goes for most things said about Corbyn in the last few weeks. Taken out of context. I'm just glad it's happened to someone 'mainstream' for a change.

[joey_big_nose]

Tax avoidance being dealt with by the Tories? Have you seen the list of Tory donors?

Theres a reason why Osbornes promised general tax avoidance legislation has never got past a brief mention at each years budget.

That's my point. The Tories are coming under a lot of pressure on tax avoidance, Cameron I think would favour coming down harder on tax avoiders. Certainly would massively help them in the polls where they are (rightly) seen as very weak with the to rich. Cameron, although obviously viewed by lefties (such as myself to a certain extent) as a right winger is viewed as a very soft lefty centerist by hardcore right wing Tories. He has already done a lot which the big money community don't like - ring fencing NHS funding, pro EU etc.

This could be construed as a shot across the bows from the donor community. "Remember who pays your bills".

[RibbleValleyRover]

Interesting read on Corbyn, McDonnell, and the IRA:

http://www.capx.co/the-inconvenient-truth-about-corbyn-and-the-ira/

[K-Hod]

Read an article about David Cameron's Oxford society yesterday, and apart from the well-documented pig initiation, others included 'Burning a £50 in front of a homeless person', 'trashing a restaurant and throwing money at the waiting on staff'. Sound a lovely bunch to me......

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/13776768.Half_hourly_Manchester_service_delayed_for_more_than_a_year_despite_completion_of___14m_line_improvement/

Northern Powerhouse?

[T J Hooker]

Im not suprised one bit about any of these stories about Cameron, stories like this about him have been doing the rounds since before he was made pm, its the fact that people in this country still voted for him(twice!) that saddens me.

[Mike E]

Im not suprised one bit about any of these stories about Cameron, stories like this about him have been doing the rounds since before he was made pm, its the fact that people in this country still voted for him(twice!) that saddens me.

It's a shame the system didn't at least allow more voices from opposing parties to be heard, as it should have.

[K-Hod]

It's a shame the system didn't at least allow more voices from opposing parties to be heard, as it should have.

Proportional representation is the way forward. It simply isn't right that UKIP got the amount of seats they did (as much as they aren't really my cup of tea) with the amount of votes they won.

[Mike E]

Proportional representation is the way forward. It simply isn't right that UKIP got the amount of seats they did (as much as they aren't my cup of tea) with the amount of votes they won.

Would've helped the LibDems, Labour and Greens too. The more voices to oppose the PM the better democracy you have.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Read an article about David Cameron's Oxford society yesterday, and apart from the well-documented pig initiation, others included 'Burning a £50 in front of a homeless person', 'trashing a restaurant and throwing money at the waiting on staff'. Sound a lovely bunch to me......

They don't sound anywhere near as bad as terrorist organisations and holocaust deniers.

[K-Hod]

They don't sound anywhere near as bad as terrorist organisations and holocaust deniers.

Yep, they're pretty vile too.

[Steve Moss]

Im not suprised one bit about any of these stories about Cameron, stories like this about him have been doing the rounds since before he was made pm, its the fact that people in this country still voted for him(twice!) that saddens me.

If Cameron is really that vile, then what does that say about the quality of his opposition?

[den]

Nothing.

[K-Hod]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3246837/Michelle-Mone-boasts-chauffeured-Jaguar.html

[Mike E]

If Cameron is really that vile, then what does that say about the quality of his opposition?

The vile stuff has only really come out post-election. Pre-election he was just another bland Tory, while Nick Clegg made headlines for having no spine.

[Baz]

Jacob Rees-Mogg (con) on the refugee situation:

"Jeremy Corbyn is already saying we should be more generous in the number we take, so from the narrow point that you are appealing to Jeremy Corbyn has got that covered, and I think people give him more credit for a pro-immigration policy than they are likely to give others". (Hence the Tories should have a different view).

Nice to see politicians making their views on their own convictions rather than playing politics with people's lives.

[Steve Moss]

The vile stuff has only really come out post-election. Pre-election he was just another bland Tory, while Nick Clegg made headlines for having no spine.

How many times has he stood for election and how many years has he been a top Conservative, and only now do the allegations surface?

That tells me:

1. His opponents were incompetent;

2. Or the opposition knew about them but believed they were largely untrue or exaggerated and didn't want their credibility undermined raising them; or,

3. If they went into college days they had their only dirty laundry/behavior problems that would be aired; or,

4. Some combination of 1, 2 and 3.

[Mike E]

How many times has he stood for election and how many years has he been a top Conservative, and only now do the allegations surface?

That tells me:

1. His opponents were incompetent;

2. Or the opposition knew about them but believed they were largely untrue or exaggerated and didn't want their credibility undermined raising them; or,

3. If they went into college days they had their only dirty laundry/behavior problems that would be aired; or,

4. Some combination of 1, 2 and 3.

I meant 'vile stuff' with regards to his own actions since becoming PM.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

What vile stuff is that then?