[Archived] The General Election 2015

[RibbleValleyRover]

Indeed not but neither party leader stated beforehand that it would never happen did they?

Clegg always said the first place he would go to try and do a deal would be to the party that had the most seats and votes, that was most likely going to be the Conservatives. It was also obvious that this 'Cleggasm' after the 2010 debate was going to cause a hung parliament and that the Conservatives might have been a possible partner.

I actually have a lot of time for Clegg, he put the country first before his party. The Lib Dems have also had a positive influence on this government especially getting through some of it's policy ideas. It most certainly wasn't the disaster some were predicting.

Of course I would like to see a Tory majority this election, but would be happy for another 5 years of the status quo. Clegg's future might make that extremely difficult though...

[thenodrog]

I really hope Clegg loses his seat for his complete disregard for the electorate last time around.

It never crossed his mind for a second that his voters would be against the coalition, it was all about Nick.

Clegg's delivered power and influence to Liberal voters and amazingly they hold it against him! It's the very first time Liberal voters have had any influence on government since before WW1! They must be like Hartlepool or Torquay supporters. They are part of the bigger picture but will never ever affect it.

Remind me of Turkeys voting for Christmas that lot. No wonder they call them 'woolly Liberals' is it?

Anybody that classes even the worst areas of Blackburn as "ghettos" really needs a reality check, compared to some of the city suburbs and housing estates Blackburn is a paradise(well not quite, but you get my point)

"Shitholes" yes, but that's more to do with lazy pricks that just dump their rubbish and litter everywhere and have no sense of pride when it comes to keeping there gardens neat & tidy.

I thought it was pretty accurate tbh

ghetto noun [C] UK › an area of a city, especially a very poor area, where people of a particular race or religion live closely together and apart from other people:

[Gav]

Should have gone to specsavers.

gav the place is unrecognisable from the town of my youth. Just go down town on a Fri/sat night if you don't believe me. You tell us you still live in Bastwell so how far away are you from three local pubs? How far a walk are they? There used to be any number on Whalley range alone!

btw You telling ME to live a little! Thats really very funny.

It's not all about going on the @#/? Gordon, then again maybe it is!

Today Danny Alexander came out and claimed the lib dems stopped the Tories cutting child benefit. Osbourne claimed its an old document commissioned by Alexander that the Tories rejected.

One of them is blatantly lying, they're paid public officials and they can tell lies without any sort of come back....

And they wonder why voters can't be bothered with elections.

[yoda]

Ed just conceded the election 8 days early there !

[Gav]

Ed just conceded the election 8 days early there !

No he didn't, but I know where you're coming from.

Saying Labour never overspent last time in power was a bit of an own goal also, but I admire his honesty.

[yoda]

No he didn't, but I know where you're coming from.

Saying Labour never overspent last time in power was a bit of an own goal also, but I admire his honesty.

I wasn't referring to that comment, bad as it was.

He said he would rather not be PM if it meant being in a coalition with the SNP.

The only way he could be PM is with SNP support

[Baz]

Think they found the few Tories in Leeds tonight, there was a sustained attack on Labours economic record. However Millibands answer on spending was poorly put across.

Cameron though gets through yet another interview without answering legitimate questions on identifying his cuts.

I can only think that Milliband has some sort of agreement in place with the lib-dems given his dismissal of the SNP.

[Gav]

I wasn't referring to that comment, bad as it was.

He said he would rather not be PM if it meant being in a coalition with the SNP.

The only way he could be PM is with SNP support

Yes I know what you're referring to Yoda, but a deal will be done I'm sure.

[yoda]

Yes I know what you're referring to Yoda, but a deal will be done I'm sure.

That would be at the expense of Trident and the Union

[Mike E]

He seemed to imply Labour or bust imo, ie: No coalition with anyone!

Funnily enough, with the applause Cameron got, would be interesting to see Farage in front of a Beeb audience on his own.

[Mike Graham]

That would be at the expense of Trident and the Union

Abandoning Trident and the Union would be folly.

[Wiggy]

Abandoning Trident and the Union would be folly.

Clegg made himself look a right numpty with his comment about Trident. He said we only needed 3 subs instead of 4 because we didn't have to have them at sea 24/7.

The whole point of Trident is that there's one at sea all the time so that any enemy knows that we can retaliate immediately if they attack us.

Does he think that the Russians, Iranians or North Koreans don't have spies.

He wasn't doing too badly until he made that wishy washy, inane comment

[thenodrog]

Today Danny Alexander came out and claimed the lib dems stopped the Tories cutting child benefit. Osbourne claimed its an old document commissioned by Alexander that the Tories rejected.

One of them is blatantly lying, they're paid public officials and they can tell lies without any sort of come back....

And they wonder why voters can't be bothered with elections.

Anybody with any gumption can see the sense or rather necessity in limiting child benefits to two kids.

No he didn't, but I know where you're coming from.

Saying Labour never overspent last time in power was a bit of an own goal also, but I admire his honesty.

Eh? Honesty????? That was an obvious lie!

Yes I know what you're referring to Yoda, but a deal will be done I'm sure.

Not only would that be divisive and dangerous and almost treasonous BUT that would be yet another lie! Where tf is this honesty that you referred to?

[Al]

The average British voter is at last learning sense. There will not be a Labour Government with or without the SNP.

[RibbleValleyRover]

The average British voter is at last learning sense. There will not be a Labour Government with or without the SNP.

I think it's certain they will have to do a deal, whether that is an official or unofficial one remains to be seen. When it comes to a Queen Speech I don't think Miliband would need the SNP on board, they would vote for it because if they bring it down it could potentially lead to the Tories getting back in further down the line.

[K-Hod]

The average British voter is at last learning sense. There will not be a Labour Government with or without the SNP.

Not so much sense, they're all much of a muchness. The fact that there is no clear majority proves that people are completely undecided, and the coalition last time out.

[jim mk2]

Labour doesn't need to do an official deal with the SNP and could govern by doing deals when necessary on important votes - as Portillo said on This Week last night. The debate was interesting last night but the BBC showed its usual right-wing bias by bringing in some stooges from Central Office to ask economically illiterate questions to Ed Miliband. Cameron was his usual smooth slippery self avoiding questions about the Tories proposed £12bn cuts and I'm not sure why Clegg was there considering his party is going to be reduced to also-rans on May 7.

[Biddy]

the BBC showed its usual right-wing bias by bringing in some stooges from Central Office to ask economically illiterate questions to Ed Miliband.

You know that for a fact do you? Or just making things up as fact as per usual. It was reported that Milliband was sulking before hand that he thought it was unfair that there was 1/3 Labour supporters, 1/3 Conservative and 1/3 Lib Dem in the crowd. Not entirely sure how you can sulk over that.

I completely agree with you on Clegg, no idea why he was given 28 minutes when he will be in an even bigger minority party and forming a coalition with the Lib Dems will be meaningless. As much as I dislike the SNP, they probably should have been given the final slot.

Would a Labour/Lib Dem Coalition work with SNP informally propping things up? At least the Lib Dems do try to honour the sensible centre ground.

Anyway, best bit of the night was when Milliband almost went flying.

[yoda]

Labour doesn't need to do an official deal with the SNP and could govern by doing deals when necessary on important votes - as Portillo said on This Week last night. The debate was interesting last night but the BBC showed its usual right-wing bias by bringing in some stooges from Central Office to ask economically illiterate questions to Ed Miliband. Cameron was his usual smooth slippery self avoiding questions about the Tories proposed £12bn cuts and I'm not sure why Clegg was there considering his party is going to be reduced to also-rans on May 7.

:lol:

[Al]

:lol:

You may well laugh Yoda. That remark is ridiculous in the extreme. The BBC is well known to lean so far to the left as to almost fall over.

[jim mk2]

Known by whom - right wing newspapers that wouldn't know editorial balance if it hit them in the face ?

Nick Robinson, the BBC's political editor, is so left-leaning he was President of the Oxford University Conservative Association.

Andrew Neil, another of the BBC's political heavyweights, used to be a Tory party activist and was editor of the Conservative-supporting Sunday Times.

But don't let that get in the way of your prejudices.

[Biddy]

OK, but where is your proof that "Stooges from central office" were planted in the audience.

[yoda]

You may well laugh Yoda. That remark is ridiculous in the extreme. The BBC is well known to lean so far to the left as to almost fall over.

I was laughing at the remark Al, maybe Jim reverted back to his Blue past for a moment !

[Al]

I was laughing at the remark Al, maybe Jim reverted back to his Blue past for a moment !

I'd twigged that Yoda. I sometimes wonder what goes on in Jim's head He's so divorced from reality it's unreal. I can understand some people having socialist principles but Jim abuses the priviledge

[yoda]

WTF,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32556185

Makes Farage look completely sane