[Archived] The General Election 2015

[Al]

Five more years of austerity, then Labour will come back in.

Rinse repeat.

And people wonder why some of us don't vote.

After that result and with Scotland either becoming independent or continuing to vote SNP we will thankfully never again have a Labour Government. Hopefully next election UKIP will translate their popularity into seats and have a positive influence on the Tory Government if in fact after the promised referendum we are still in the EU.

Actually I think that Dave will find that the EU are prepared to make a lot of concessions now that they must realise that the British Public are quite prepared to get out and plunge the Euro into even more trouble than it is in already.

[joey_big_nose]

After that result and with Scotland either becoming independent or continuing to vote SNP we will thankfully never again have a Labour Government.

Mate can I have some of what you are smoking.

Do you think that's it then? It's a Tory government forever?

Labour won 30% vote, Tories 37% vote. Swing of 3.5% between them. If you fancy betting as big a sum as you like that Labour won't win or be part of a winning coalition in the next two elections just let me know.

[Al]

not going to happen. Not now Cameron has a majority and SNP are pretty much the only party wanting rid.

I used to think trident was a good thing. but after thinking about it, who would we nuke ever ?

Do you want out?

No, Leaving the EU would be suicide.

probably would happen. Can I ask if you want another in/out referendum? if we left the EU and Scotland voted to stay in the EU then yes.

I'd like an English referendum to decide whether or not we want to be with Scotland. Their overwhelming vote for the SNP is an indication of what they think of us. Why should we continue to support them. The oil that they have decided is entirely theirs is pretty useless to them now.

[jim mk2]

How many 0 hour contracts? How many agencies filling 8 week vacancies and binning them off the day before to save holiday pay? Who enabled this and tampered with employment law to the point where businesses can do anything and as food and expenses rise, wages stay the same?

I can't believe you could live in a suburb of Blackburn and think that a Tory majority is good. The last 5 years had seen 10s of thousand of public service employees lose their jobs. What do you think employs the most people?

If we lose more firefighters, police, nurses and teachers- the country will suffer. Spread thin is a word to describe the police, yet we've just "signed on" for more "staff restructuring".

Cut off Scotland, cut off Europe in a referendum stirred up by a Tory in a UKIP blouse. Look in at ourselves and make the richest even richer.

You've bought too many DC comics. Not the classic Batman, I mean David Cameron's Murdoch tabloids. I can't believe 13% of this country bought the migrant scaremongering over bankers bonuses, interest rate and selling off of public companies for cheap to "friends in the city". Tories might not be UKIP : "foreigners are alright as long as theyre big businesses; its only the poor ones we dont like."

In he words of a famous meme... I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

I've made the analogies to turkeys and Christmas but was given a warning by the thought-police but this is a good post and the sentence in bold correct.

Cameron spoke this morning of "one-nation Toryism" but he will know his £12bn of cuts will disproportionately hit the poor, young sick and​ disabled. The cuts will deliver more pain, fear and instability to those they affect. We can expect a rise in child poverty, a further decline in living standards for all but the most well-off, and more stupendous rises in productivity in the food bank sector.

A majority gives the Tories a mandate to begin seriously dismantling the welfare state, but Cameron – if not all of his party – will know this carries a political cost. Deliver social security cuts on this scale and many of those who voted for him yesterday may find that it is they, and not the mythical scroungers and shirkers of Tory demagoguery, who will lose out

[yoda]

I'd like an English referendum to decide whether or not we want to be with Scotland. Their overwhelming vote for the SNP is an indication of what they think of us. Why should we continue to support them. The oil that they have decided is entirely theirs is pretty useless to them now.

They had 50% of the vote, not 50% of the population,

Interesting times for the Scots coming up, do 50% of them really want to leave the UK, last time it was only 45% of who voted, that is not even 45% of the population.

[Al]

Why should the 3 year old go without food because the parents aren't fit to raise children? How do you plan for parenting when you can't guarantee your hours for a week at work?

If you think that child benefit is normally spent on the children you are probably mistaken. A can of Special Brew and a packet of fags and a bag of crisps for the kid.

[dr_awol]

I'd like an English referendum to decide whether or not we want to be with Scotland. Their overwhelming vote for the SNP is an indication of what they think of us. Why should we continue to support them. The oil that they have decided is entirely theirs is pretty useless to them now.

Why should the English get a referendum to desided this, should it not be rUK that desides this if you wanted this type of referendum ? remember the UK more than just England. N.Ireland England Wales and Scotland 4 Equal partners

Their overwhelming vote for the SNP is an indication of what they think of us.

yes in the SNP manifesto, Anglophobia was before Scrapping Trident but after Investing in education, comeon AI noone should vote for a party of some prejudice, you should vote because you believe in their manifesto as i did!

The oil that they have decided is entirely theirs is pretty useless to them now.

Why, the price of oil is rising again? a good idea would be to set up some sort of oil fund to deal with volatile prices, instead of using to close coal mines.

They had 50% of the vote, not 50% of the population,

Interesting times for the Scots coming up, do 50% of them really want to leave the UK, last time it was only 45% of who voted, that is not even 45% of the population.

Conservatives got 41% of the vote, not 41% of the population.

[Al]

Why should the English get a referendum to desided this, should it not be rUK that desides this if you wanted this type of referendum ? remember the UK more than just England. N.Ireland England Wales and Scotland 4 Equal partners

Their overwhelming vote for the SNP is an indication of what they think of us.

yes in the SNP manifesto, Anglophobia was before Scrapping Trident but after Investing in education, comeon AI noone should vote for a party of some prejudice, you should vote because you believe in their manifesto as i did!

The oil that they have decided is entirely theirs is pretty useless to them now.

Why, the price of oil is rising again? a good idea would be to set up some sort of oil fund to deal with volatile prices, instead of using to close coal mines.

Conservatives got 37% of the vote, not 37% of the population.

It's well known that the Scots in general hate the English. It was "our oil" not long ago. Now it's next to worthless. Yes the price is rising a bit but not enough.

[yoda]

Why should the English get a referendum to desided this, should it not be rUK that desides this if you wanted this type of referendum ? remember the UK more than just England. N.Ireland England Wales and Scotland 4 Equal partners

Their overwhelming vote for the SNP is an indication of what they think of us.

yes in the SNP manifesto, Anglophobia was before Scrapping Trident but after Investing in education, comeon AI noone should vote for a party of some prejudice, you should vote because you believe in their manifesto as i did!

The oil that they have decided is entirely theirs is pretty useless to them now.

Why, the price of oil is rising again? a good idea would be to set up some sort of oil fund to deal with volatile prices, instead of using to close coal mines.

Conservatives got 41% of the vote, not 41% of the population.

Yes I know, but England is not hell bent on being independant

[dr_awol]

It's well known that the Scots in general hate the English. It was "our oil" not long ago. Now it's next to worthless. Yes the price is rising a bit but not enough.

ok you got me.. i was thinking how much i wanted the bedroom tax, child povery, food banks ect so i was gonna vote for an austerity party... but then i remembered we all hate English people

Yes I know, but England is not hell bent on being independant

England do seem hell bent on leaving the EU

[joey_big_nose]

Crikey Al you sound like a bundle of fun. People are just people, they're not all out to get you.

[thenodrog]

What do you mean by a Slap down?

Sturgeon openly preached that the SNP was going to be disruptive in order too further their cause which is independence.

Nope sorry but that's just wrong Nicola has said the SNP would play a positive and constructive role at Westminster

Sorry dr but Nicola (and Little Fatal) has @#/? all to do with it anymore.

[yoda]

ok you got me.. i was thinking how much i wanted the bedroom tax, child povery, food banks ect so i was gonna vote for an austerity party... but then i remembered we all hate English people

England do seem hell bent on leaving the EU

Pedantic

[only2garners]

So let me get this straight. Nigel Farage made a big deal of being a straight talking guy and meaning what he said. He said he would resign as leader of UKIP if he didn't win his seat in Thanet South. He didn't win, so he resigned. Then he said he was going to take the Summer off and then would consider whether to stand at the leadership election in September. In what conceivable way is this straight talking? Why should I trust anything else he says?

[yoda]

Sorry dr but Nicola (and Little Fatal) has @#/? all to do with it anymore.

correct, all bit players now

[thenodrog]

Why should the 3 year old go without food because the parents aren't fit to raise children?

Never mind that. Children become a meal ticket for too many. Give a lot of those parents child benefit and it's spent on another couple of nights on stella.

btw Food is ridiculously cheap in this country.

[yoda]

So let me get this straight. Nigel Farage made a big deal of being a straight talking guy and meaning what he said. He said he would resign as leader of UKIP if he didn't win his seat in Thanet South. He didn't win, so he resigned. Then he said he was going to take the Summer off and then would consider whether to stand at the leadership election in September. In what conceivable way is this straight talking? Why should I trust anything else he says?

You obviously have not read the politicians small print

[only2garners]

Conservatives got 41% of the vote, not 41% of the population.

Actually they got 36.9% of the vote and 24% of electorate.

[Husky]

By 2020 only Tony Blair will have won an election for Labour in 46 years.

And he was a Tory.

[dr_awol]

Sorry dr but Nicola (and Little Fatal) has @#/? all to do with it anymore.

lol im not sure its that simple

Pedantic

maybe

Actually they got 36.9% of the vote and 24% of electorate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/results/england

Was talking about there votes in england.

[Husky]

I'd like an English referendum to decide whether or not we want to be with Scotland. Their overwhelming vote for the SNP is an indication of what they think of us. Why should we continue to support them. The oil that they have decided is entirely theirs is pretty useless to them now.

I agree.

Because of that lot we all have to put up with the Scot for another 5 years.

[thenodrog]

Gordon-I know a few nurses, and they all say the same as me!!

I can trump that many times over. My wife works for the health service as does many of her sisters and their daughters. They all bemoan the wasted money and the way they are often treated and spoken down to by patients. My mate has just retired from the NHS. Of 3 other mates one is married to a midwife, one is married to a nurse and the last one's wife works in NHS admin. Guess what they all tell me the same. Stories that would make your hair curl from the mid wife re: home visits, the nurse was bemoaning the sheer waste of funds and equipment just last night after voting and the lady in admin is aghast at the amount of money the NHS has to spend on not only transport between homes and hospital and between Queens park and Burnley and worst of all translators to accompany people for hours on end who cannot speak English! Justify that lot K-Hod. You know I am right.

[thenodrog]

Oh Joy. Another 5 years of that lot. I wonder if Nigel will remember this time that the west of his constituency doesn't end at Ribchester and there's some hard working non-farming, non half million pound house owning folks out there? Hopefully it's not only 'alleged' nefarious deeds he has no recollection of

Did you vote for him Shaun?

Did I eck. The day my vote turn Blue is the day I sell my soul to the devil for a glimpse of Mrs D's inner thigh.

So why on earth do you think he will consider the likes of you? Supposing you had won the election how much time would you spend looking after the rural dwellers and the the farmers that you have such a jaundiced and stereotypical view of?

[Gav]

I can trump that many times over. My wife works for the health service as does many of her sisters and their daughters. They all bemoan the wasted money and the way they are often treated and spoken down to by patients. My mate has just retired from the NHS. Of 3 other mates one is married to a midwife, one is married to a nurse and the last one's wife works in NHS admin. Guess what they all tell me the same. Stories that would make your hair curl from the mid wife re: home visits, the nurse was bemoaning the sheer waste of funds and equipment just last night after voting and the lady in admin is aghast at the amount of money the NHS has to spend on not only transport between homes and hospital and between Queens park and Burnley and worst of all translators to accompany people for hours on end who cannot speak English! Justify that lot K-Hod. You know I am right.

Have you pulled that out of the Daily Mail?

[thenodrog]

Don't see how he can "slap them down" if he is serious about keeping the union which I believe he is. They have a total mandate from the people of Scotland and he has made a huge amount of promises to them during the referendum.

Cameron will give them additional powers as promised and try to bring them onside. He can't do anything else. If the conservatives antagonise then it will force a quicker separation which they are trying to avoid.

To be honest SNP hold all the cards as long as the conservatives want Scotland in the union.

If the time comes when the Conservatives want the Scots out then that will suit them fine too. Sturgeon and Salmond have him cooked.

He's already said that he will instigate moves to prevent Scottish MP's voting on English or Welsh matters. He's got a clear run at that now. How about reforming the Barnett Formula? I'm sure thats high on the agenda too. Both of those moves would strengthen his standing in the eyes of the English electorate.

Publically he may say one thing but privately I'm sure he'll say the opposite. Would you want a country in the Union with nearly 60 SNP seats with just one that supports your party? Nicola Sturgeon makes no secret of her hatred for the tories and her intention to destroy them even to the point of betraying SNP voters by promising to 'get into bed' with Ed Miliband.