[Archived] The General Election 2015

[Gav]

Bunkum.

Illegal workers DO pay tax and NIC in some cases, I've worked with them and their families for the past 10yrs so I know what I'm talking about.

You as usual are talking from a position of being boarded up in your ivory tower with no idea about what goes on in the real world unless it's plastered across the daily mail.

Listen to the people that know, you may learn something.

It's a bit like those food banks that 'don't really exist' listen to the people that know, you may learn something.

[yoda]

Bunkum.

Illegal workers DO pay tax and NIC in some cases, I've worked with them and their families for the past 10yrs so I know what I'm talking about.

You as usual are talking from a position of being boarded up in your ivory tower with no idea about what goes on in the real world unless it's plastered across the daily mail.

Listen to the people that know, you may learn something.

It's a bit like those food banks that 'don't really exist' listen to the people that know, you may learn something.

No they don't.

They must incorrectly registered, if you are illegal you do not have any right to work in the UK, I know I have checked it out with the Dept of Work and Pensions. The employer is liable for a hefty fine as well, if caught.

It has just happened at a take away near Witton lights.

Now how about those food banks.

[thenodrog]

Came home in a taxi once and when the driver saw an unused building at my home he offered to fill it with sewing machines and workers at just £10 per day, 7 days a week making jeans and such. He reckoned that people coming into this country could not claim benefits for 18 months and so they would do anything and work for very little to earn a few bob to tip up for board and lodgings to whoever's converted attic / cellar that they were living in.

No idea how much of that is kosher ( ) cos I never took him up on it of course. Maybe if I had taken him up on his offer I'd have made a fortune out of sweatshop labour and Jack Straw would have nominated me for a peerage too.

[adopted scouser]

Came home in a taxi once and when the driver saw an unused building at my home he offered to fill it with sewing machines and workers at just £10 per day, 7 days a week making jeans and such. He reckoned that people coming into this country could not claim benefits for 18 months and so they would do anything and work for very little to earn a few bob to tip up for board and lodgings to whoever's converted attic / cellar that they were living in.

No idea how much of that is kosher ( ) cos I never took him up on it of course. Maybe if I had taken him up on his offer I'd have made a fortune out of sweatshop labour and Jack Straw would have nominated me for a peerage too.

You could have been Mayor of Blackburn !

[old darwen blue]

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[yoda]

Labour supporting the Tories!

Whatever next ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32865227

[Paul]

Labour supporting the Tories!

Whatever next ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32865227

Why surprised? It's perfectly obvious there is no reason why UK tax payers should fund social security benefits for EU migrants unless those people have contributed by virtue of paying tax and NI.

It's also clearly Labour's responsibility to campaign in favour of staying in the EU at the referendum vote. To attempt conflict with the government on this issue would be very foolish. It would be a disaster for the country if the Tory Eurosceptics are allowed to dominate the referendum and if the UK votes to leave the EU.

We have enough problems without turning our back on Europe. We are European!

[yoda]

Why surprised? It's perfectly obvious there is no reason why UK tax payers should fund social security benefits for EU migrants unless those people have contributed by virtue of paying tax and NI.

It's also clearly Labour's responsibility to campaign in favour of staying in the EU at the referendum vote. To attempt conflict with the government on this issue would be very foolish. It would be a disaster for the country if the Tory Eurosceptics are allowed to dominate the referendum and if the UK votes to leave the EU.

We have enough problems without turning our back on Europe. We are European!

My passport says I am British,

I know I am English

[Paul]

My passport says I am British,

I know I am English

What has that got to do with the point you attempted to make?

Geographically the UK is in Europe. Of course your passport says your British, just like another citizen of a country, and if you were born in England that makes you English. What's your point?

[yoda]

What has that got to do with the point you attempted to make?

Geographically the UK is in Europe. Of course your passport says your British, just like another citizen of a country, and if you were born in England that makes you English. What's your point?

I would like to be governed by a British government and subject to British (English) laws yet part of an economic/common market as I voted for originally,

That ok with you ?

[roverzee]

Geographically the UK is in Europe.

So is Norway. So is Switzerland.

[ABBEY]

Why surprised? It's perfectly obvious there is no reason why UK tax payers should fund social security benefits for EU migrants unless those people have contributed by virtue of paying tax and NI.

It's also clearly Labour's responsibility to campaign in favour of staying in the EU at the referendum vote. To attempt conflict with the government on this issue would be very foolish. It would be a disaster for the country if the Tory Eurosceptics are allowed to dominate the referendum and if the UK votes to leave the EU.

We have enough problems without turning our back on Europe. We are European!

I am European every two years when the Ryder Cup is on .

It's like saying your a scouser because the cut near you goes to Liverpool

[adopted scouser]

I see the sweaties are endearing themselves in the house of commons.

Taking seats from 83 year olds, selfies and applauding in the house.

Should have built a higher wall.

[Gav]

Got a bollocking of Bercow for applauding also.

[adopted scouser]

Got a bollocking of Bercow for applauding also.

I should think so !

[jim mk2]

Good luck to the Scots - I'm all for a bit of insurrection and disdain for traditions and protocol.

I read recently the Houses of Parliament need a £3bn makeover.

They could save money by converting it into council flats and moving parliament north.

Government does not need to be in London and basing decision makers out of the capital would do more than anything to close the north-south divide.

[Gav]

Good luck to the Scots - I'm all for a bit of insurrection and disdain for traditions and protocol.

I read recently the Houses of Parliament need a £3bn makeover.

They could save money by converting it into council flats and moving parliament north.

Government does not need to be in London and basing decision makers out of the capital would do more than anything to close the north-south divide.

I don't necessarily disagree, but the parliament building is a fantastic piece of architecture and should be saved at all costs.

[adopted scouser]

I don't necessarily disagree, but the parliament building is a fantastic piece of architecture and should be saved at all costs.

Absolutely, Jim being daft again.

[jim mk2]

Absolutely, Jim being daft again.

Here you are Norman

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/9030847/Houses-of-Parliament-could-be-sold-because-building-is-sinking.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193797/Houses-Parliament-close-years-3bn-plan-repair-crumbling-Palace-Westminster.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089993/Taxpayers-face-1billion-stop-Commons-sinking-Thames-mud--MPs-sell-net-public-purse-500m-profit.html

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/03/sell-westminster-mps-billions-palace-parliament

[yoda]

Absolutely, Jim being daft again.

It's his natural state

Here you are Norman

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/architecture/9030847/Houses-of-Parliament-could-be-sold-because-building-is-sinking.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2193797/Houses-Parliament-close-years-3bn-plan-repair-crumbling-Palace-Westminster.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089993/Taxpayers-face-1billion-stop-Commons-sinking-Thames-mud--MPs-sell-net-public-purse-500m-profit.html

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/03/sell-westminster-mps-billions-palace-parliament

4 links one story !

Not exaggerating are you Jim ?

[jim mk2]

It's his natural state

Silly comment to a potentially interesting issue. Is there any chance you might say something constructive ?

[thenodrog]

I don't disagree with you Jim but if common sense overrules the attraction of London can you explain why wembley stayed where it was?

[yoda]

Silly comment to a potentially interesting issue. Is there any chance you might say something constructive ?

The refurb will go ahead, it will be deemed to be in the national interest

[jim mk2]

Wembley shouldn't have stayed. There was a big campaign to get it moved to Birmingham - which made far more sense - but the same forces that see most investment and public spending take place in the south east won the day again.

[adopted scouser]

Wembley shouldn't have stayed. There was a big campaign to get it moved to Birmingham - which made far more sense - but the same forces that see most investment and public spending take place in the south east won the day again.

Thankfully. Wembley should be in, err, Wembley.

The refurb will go ahead, it will be deemed to be in the national interest

Because it is