[Archived] The General Election 2015

[Gav]

She got stage fright, she'll not be the first and not the last, hardly a hanging offence.

[thenodrog]

Stage fright? She can't reckon up for goodness sake gav. This woman makes Blackburn's equivalent of George Galloway Kate Hollern look like Angela Merkel.

[Stuart]

You can tell she's not cut out for politics. Most career MPs would have easily lied or deflected their way out of those questions.

[yoda]

She got stage fright, she'll not be the first and not the last, hardly a hanging offence.

You mean the stage got fright

[jim mk2]

How is it that you keep banging on about the past 5 years yet appear to have wiped the absolute disaster of the previous 13 years from your memory banks? Is it a combination of embarrassment and shame perhaps or just another case of infantile brainwashing?

Here you fruitcake. Happy bedtime reading

Labour Party top 50 achievements since being elected in 1997

1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

2. Low mortgage rates.

3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

11. 85,000 more nurses.

12. 32,000 more doctors.

13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

19. Restored city-wide government to London.

20. Record number of students in higher education.

21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

35. Banned fox hunting.

36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.

42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

43. Free eye test for over 60s.

44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

[yoda]

Big list is that Jim,

makes you wonder why they didn't get elected

[Mike E]

Or why they didn't highlight these successes themselves.

[thenodrog]

Or why they didn't highlight these successes themselves.

They might have except that he's only just made it all up.

[matt83]

Blimey I can't believe a debate about the election is still rumbling on. That's a long list there but living in clitheroe now I tend to the Tory propaganda through letter box now rather than the labour propaganda I used to when I lived in bburn. So to play devils advocate this is what the recent one had to say (think its Ribble valley centric in places):

"-last labour govt sold gold reserves at rock bottom prices

-labour increased unemployment by 25 per day

-in 2010 labour left behind largest peacetime deficit

-labour voted against the benefits cap

-labour failed to bring English votes for English legislation.

-labour want to return our economy to more borrowing, more debt and more taxes.

Since torys regained power

-fastest growing economy in g7

-inflation at 0%

-personal allowance increased to £10,600

-deficit down by half since 2010

-1.9 million new jobs since 2010

-fuel duty escalator been scrapped saving £10 per tank

-health/welfare tourism by foreigners been clamped down on

-introduced help to buy scheme allowing first time buyers to get on property ladder.

-Ribble valley unemployment 1%"

I don't really understand what it all means but whoever is in power from Tory to labour to monster raving looney party. They are almost to a man self serving greedy chancers looking to further their own career and to score points off their political rivals not to improve the country and the people in it.

[Gav]

So now we find ourselves embroiled in a Labour leadership campaign thats started off with most of the candidates slagging each other off in public, which does nothing in the long run other than give the Tories fuel for the fire when the debate is settled.

"Who described the folks backing Liz Kendall as the ‘Taliban New Labour’? The Telegraph’ story this morning attributed the vituperative comments to a ‘sources close to Burnham and Cooper,’ but both campaigns are distancing themselves from the remarks.

A source on Team Burnham tells Coffee House that the comments came from Yvette’s Team and not from anyone on the Burnham campaign. But Team Cooper on the other hand is quick to say that the comments did not come from them either. A source on Cooper’s campaign says:

‘I don’t think it helps to get into finger pointing. It absolutely wasn’t us. It’s not language we endorse or have even heard. It’s not a very useful contribution to the debate about the future of the party and the country.’"

If ever a party had lost sight of people they're representing or the job they're supposed to be doing its these bloody idiots. They’ll do absolutely anything to gain power, sod the electorate.

EMBARRASSING AND PATHETIC

[yoda]

So now we find ourselves embroiled in a Labour leadership campaign thats started off with most of the candidates slagging each other off in public, which does nothing in the long run other than give the Tories fuel for the fire when the debate is settled.

"Who described the folks backing Liz Kendall as the ‘Taliban New Labour’? The Telegraph’ story this morning attributed the vituperative comments to a ‘sources close to Burnham and Cooper,’ but both campaigns are distancing themselves from the remarks.

A source on Team Burnham tells Coffee House that the comments came from Yvette’s Team and not from anyone on the Burnham campaign. But Team Cooper on the other hand is quick to say that the comments did not come from them either. A source on Cooper’s campaign says:

‘I don’t think it helps to get into finger pointing. It absolutely wasn’t us. It’s not language we endorse or have even heard. It’s not a very useful contribution to the debate about the future of the party and the country.’"

If ever a party had lost sight of people they're representing or the job they're supposed to be doing its these bloody idiots. They’ll do absolutely anything to gain power, sod the electorate.

EMBARRASSING AND PATHETIC

Burnham summed it up when he said the party comes 1st

[T J Hooker]

Labour may have lost the plot in the last 10 years but still!! If you think the torys are the answer then you're either a bit screwy or quite well off(and dont care if others are strugling just to feed their families and pay there bills and im not talking about doll dossers either, hard working people)

[yoda]

Labour may have lost the plot in the last 10years but still!! If you think the torys are the answer then you're either a bit screwy or quite well off(and dont care if others are strugling just to feed theitr families and pay there bills and im not talling about doll dossers either, hard working people)

Jim mk3

[thenodrog]

Jim mk3

Jim'll be apoplectic with rage. Firstly that you are likening him to someone who cannot spell and is poor grammatically. The content of old Jim's posts is questionable to say the least but never his grammar. Secondly by Gav's penultimate sentence! It appears to me that Labour are losing support as fast as BRFC!

[T J Hooker]

Aaahhhh the old spelling and grammar chestnut😴😴😴

[yoda]

Jim'll be apoplectic with rage. Firstly that you are likening him to someone who cannot spell and is poor grammatically. The content of old Jim's posts is questionable to say the least but never his grammar. Secondly by Gav's penultimate sentence! It appears to me that Labour are losing support as fast as BRFC!

You have got me confused with someone who gives a sh1t

[thenodrog]

Aaahhhh the old spelling and grammar chestnut

Not criticising the standard of education which you received per sae TJ. Or maybe didn't receive. Simply pointing out that jim's posts are flawless and that he places great store in grammar, composition and punctuation.

[T J Hooker]

edit.

most discussions and disagreements on the site have been relatively cordial in the past week, so ill refrain from directly responding to the above post so as to keep it that way

[broadsword]

Not criticising the standard of education which you received per sae TJ.

* per se

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_se

[Stuart]

Not criticising the standard of education which you received per sae TJ. Or maybe didn't receive. Simply pointing out that jim's posts are flawless and that he places great store in grammar, composition and punctuation.

Now I KNOW someone has stolen Gordon's log in.

[thenodrog]

Not criticising the standard of education which you received per sae TJ. Or maybe didn't receive. Simply pointing out that jim's posts are flawless and that he places great store in grammar, composition and punctuation.

Now I KNOW someone has stolen Gordon's log in.

Just like to point out that Lord Haw Haw always spoke the Queens English too. As with Jim though the content always let him down and again like Jim he clearly backed the wrong horse!

[yoda]

Just like to point out that Lord Haw Haw always spoke the Queens English too. As with Jim though the content always let him down and again like Jim he clearly backed the wrong horse!

Nicely set up Gordon, a true professional at work

[Gav]

So the Tories have pulled the planned Northern rail improvements due to costs spiralling out of control and general mismanagement, but have decided not to pull similar upgrades in the South.

Northern Powerhouse my arse.

[T J Hooker]

its just obscene to me that any working class person north of London would choose to vote tory scum, you've allowed yourself and your family to be mugged if you did

[Gav]