[Archived] The General Election 2015

[Al]

Nobody's taking anything away from you Al, I was merely stating that I suspect you wouldn't want to swap places with those that await a giro each week.....

No I wouldn't want to swap places. Being a dole dosser is not the way I choose to live and I thought I explained to you why I do not have to.

I was very disappointed with your previous post K-hod. You had not seemed the type of poster to throw your toys out of your pram but hey ho as I said you are entitled to your opinion.

To change the subject. What do you think of the budget? Very fair I thought. An increase in the minimum wage for the lower earners and an increase in the tax allowance but at the same time an attempt to let the people who do legitimately earn their money keep most of what they earn

[T J Hooker]

It's from a socialist rag. Not interested.

Then dont post.

[Al]

Certainly not interested in what crap TJ has to post so I won't even bother opening it.

[T J Hooker]

Yea reight.

Thats the problem you're not really interested in anything anybody has to say unless it suits you. (arrogance i think thats called)

[K-Hod]

No I wouldn't want to swap places. Being a dole dosser is not the way I choose to live and I thought I explained to you why I do not have to.

I was very disappointed with your previous post K-hod. You had not seemed the type of poster to throw your toys out of your pram but hey ho as I said you are entitled to your opinion.

To change the subject. What do you think of the budget? Very fair I thought. An increase in the minimum wage for the lower earners and an increase in the tax allowance but at the same time an attempt to let the people who do legitimately earn their money keep most of what they earn

That's the thing, I don't think many choose to live like that, but anyway, best to draw a line under the whole thing.

Not had a chance to have a look at the budget yet, so can't comment at this stage....

[thenodrog]

Anyway less bickering folks. I've not had time to digest most of it as I've been away at an event all day but as I expected this appears to have been a proper caring and sensible budget to benefit the entire working class. It won't suit Jim, gav, Abbey etc with their skewed left wing, soak the workers / reward the shirkers agenda's but it surely suits the more open minded amongst us and the British taxpayer in general. As Margaret Thatcher wisely commented "Socialism works fine until a socialist goverment runs out of other peoples money"!

Three cheers for George Osbourne. Hip Hip....

[Baz]

Anyway less bickering folks. I've not had time to digest most of it as I've been away at an event all day but as I expected this appears to have been a proper caring and sensible budget to benefit the entire working class. It won't suit Jim, gav, Abbey etc with their left wing agenda's but it surely suits the more open minded and the British taxpayer to boot . Three cheers for George Osbourne. Hip Hip....

From what Ive read, those working, but in poorly paid jobs will be worse off, but I haven't read everything.

Also, despite arguing against it before the election it looks like they are enacting the Labour policy on non-doms?

[T J Hooker]

From what Ive read, those working, but in poorly paid jobs will be worse off, but I haven't read everything.

Also, despite arguing against it before the election it looks like they are enacting the Labour policy on non-doms?

You wouldn't have to have read anything to know that, its just a given when the vile tory scum are at the wheel.

[K-Hod]

But it will suit your skewed right wing agenda ;-)

Quoting the same Margaret Thatcher that wanted all football fans to wear ID cards on a football messageboard. Deary me.

[Baz]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17442946

BBC budget calculator

[T J Hooker]

according to that calculator i'll be £400-500 worst off next year because I wont be getting any working tax credit(apparently)

Also i noticed that the higher the salary amount that you type in the more better off you will be(and the total opposite the less you put in) funny that!

its a good job that myself and others that live on a low income are used to living on next to nothing(hardened you could say) , because in the future when the crap hits the fan and the economy evaporates completely and money becomes worthless, we will survive one way or another.

[jim mk2]

Gordon Brown and Ed Balls would be proud of parts of that Budget.

Taking his cue straight from the Labour manifesto, there are increased taxes on the wealthy, a commitment to a Living Wage (employers groups are up in arms over that one), plus a clampdown on non-doms and tax avoidance and evasion.

On the downside he has again attacked benefits claimants and the working poor, none of whom are responsible for the fiscal crisis of the past 6 years that they are being punished for.

One cheer for Gideon.

[yoda]

Gordon Brown and Ed Balls would be proud of that Budget.

Increased taxes on the wealthy, a commitment to a Living Wage (employers groups are up in arms over that one), plus a clampdown on non-doms and tax avoidance and evasion.

Well done Gideon, the best chancellor Labour never had.

True colours showing there Jim

In time I think this budget will be show to have been one of the better ones in regards to sorting out the public finances.

Even though I will probably be worse off short term.

[K-Hod]

£80 a year better off for me....

[imy9]

141 better for me

[T J Hooker]

Can yalend us a tenner?

[adopted scouser]

Amazing when you consider the Conservatives announced the welfare cuts as part of their manifesto, and were still elected with a rather healthy majority.

With how much disdain and mistrust were Miliband and Labour held by the electorate ? Incompetent amateurs Q.E.D.

Jim still hasn't got over it, truth hurts.

Marvellous.

[Guest]

Corporation tax cut to 18%? That'll do for me. There are a few other nuggets in there for limited companies. Means more take-home pay for freelancers. Can't argue with it from my point of view.

[K-Hod]

Amazing when you consider the Conservatives announced the welfare cuts as part of their manifesto, and were still elected with a rather healthy majority.

With how much disdain and mistrust were Miliband and Labour held by the electorate ? Incompetent amateurs Q.E.D.

Jim still hasn't got over it, truth hurts.

Marvellous.

Nobody likes a show off ;-)

Must admit, I find it a little odd seeing someone with scouser in their name so proud to be a tory....

[jim mk2]

Must admit, I find it a little odd seeing someone with scouser in their name so proud to be a tory....

Working class Tories. Worst of them all.

[den]

[thenodrog]

Thank goodness den. Completely sensible. Should have been done years ago.

[den]

Well it's all about wealth distribution. Is it right to prioritise taking money away from poorer, working families who have three or more children, while at the same time cutting taxes for the richest?

There's no point debating this because we'll never agree.

[Gav]

You know what den you're absolutely right of course the Tories are concentrating on hurting the poorest in society whilst still rewarding the rich with tax breaks and ignoringing 100bn in tax avoidance/evasion.

But if one thing came out of the last election it was that the country as a whole don't care about anyone else, they care about themselves only, that's why the Tories, who said they'd hit the poor got 37% of the vote and won at a canter. They're rely on people believing a lie that all benefit claimants are scroungers and people have fallen for it hook line and sinker.

I was watching a program the other night about a chap that was sleeping in a public toilet in Portsmouth, he was homeless and couldn't get social housing, private renting was saturated also, so he was sleeping in a public toilet. The reason he was homeless was because his son had died suddenly at 21 and he just went off the rails with grief. He was a hard working professional guy with a good job, 3 kids and a wife, but hit the bottle after losing his son and ended up on the streets. He's typical of someone who's life just changed for the worse and it wasn't really his fault, nobody knows how they'll react if they lose a son/daughter suddenly and he ended up sleeping in a public toilet due to lack of social housing, he didn't qualify as he wasn't an urgent case. The Tories want to sell off more social housing by the way when we don't have enough to go round now.

I can categorically say that we would glad have let that chap live in my soon to be rented house for free until he got himself back on his feet. Anyone that knows us would back up that statement, but how many more people would be willing to do that? not many I’d wager because as a society we're all looking after number 1 and **** everyone else.

[Al]

He hasn't hit working families who HAVE three children. He has hit families who produce a third child in two year's time. It's their own choice and two kids are enough for any family. More than that and you are increasing the population of an already over populated world and that is irresponsible and selfish which is what you accuse the Conservatives of being. It also stops the irresponsible production of children for the benefits they attract.