[Archived] The Championship 2015-2016

[yoda]

Will be interesting to see who Huddersfield go for next. They talk about a change in strategy there. I'm not really sure what they expect at that club. They don't get big gates and don't spend big money on players. Their squad is relatively weak and the height of their capabilities ought to be mid table.

Its interesting that last night even after conceding late on they got a very respectable point at Reading having been winning the game for a long period, yet still decided to sack a manager who has kept them clear of relegation trouble on a small budget.

I can't see them having the pulling power to get a Pearson or Lambert, but perhaps someone like Poyet or Hasselbaink might be next up there.

They should go for GB, complete change of strategy

[chaddyrovers]

Will be interesting to see who Huddersfield go for next. They talk about a change in strategy there. I'm not really sure what they expect at that club. They don't get big gates and don't spend big money on players. Their squad is relatively weak and the height of their capabilities ought to be mid table.

Its interesting that last night even after conceding late on they got a very respectable point at Reading having been winning the game for a long period, yet still decided to sack a manager who has kept them clear of relegation trouble on a small budget.

I can't see them having the pulling power to get a Pearson or Lambert, but perhaps someone like Poyet or Hasselbaink might be next up there.

Uwe Rosler is being line up supposedly.

[G Somerset Rover]

What are you all moaning about? We should be happy with 3 wins in 16.

[JHRover]

Wouldn't surprise me if Dougie Freedman was the next manager to depart given Forest's slide down the table.

[chaddyrovers]

Wouldn't surprise me if Dougie Freedman was the next manager to depart given Forest's slide down the table.

Was rumours last week that he would be sack and replace by Nigel Clough.

[JHRover]

Depending on the results this weekend we could quite feasibly see both Forest and QPR on the lookout for new managers. Both sides are on awful runs of form and the fans are getting restless. Both of those clubs will look to appease their agitated supporters by making a managerial change soon, and both will be looking at quality experienced managers. Fulham won't be far behind unless they get in and around the top 6 and quickly. This is when the likes of Lambert, Poyet and Pearson will be getting inundated with calls from clubs.

[chaddyrovers]

I cant see Pearson or Lambert going to QPR or Forest tbf

Poyet is now managing in Greece at AEK Athens.

[den]

Will be interesting to see who Huddersfield go for next. They talk about a change in strategy there. I'm not really sure what they expect at that club. They don't get big gates and don't spend big money on players. Their squad is relatively weak and the height of their capabilities ought to be mid table.

Its interesting that last night even after conceding late on they got a very respectable point at Reading having been winning the game for a long period, yet still decided to sack a manager who has kept them clear of relegation trouble on a small budget.

I can't see them having the pulling power to get a Pearson or Lambert, but perhaps someone like Poyet or Hasselbaink might be next up there.

It's called ambition.

[JBiz]

It's called ambition.

Or stupidity if the gamble puts them in league 1 with lower gates.

I think more football fans in general should be aware of the alternate reaction to sacking managers.

I'd like to see a list of managerial changes that have caused an improvement against a list of managerial changes which have had negligible or negative effects.

[JHRover]

Or stupidity if the gamble puts them in league 1 with lower gates.

I think more football fans in general should be aware of the alternate reaction to sacking managers.

I'd like to see a list of managerial changes that have caused an improvement against a list of managerial changes which have had negligible or negative effects.

Lets look at the Championship since the start of last season and see which changes have been undoubted successes so far:

Birmingham replacing Clark with Rowett - gone from relegation certainties to play off hopefuls with no money - major success

Brighton replacing Hyypia with Hughton - gone from relegation threatened to top of the league and unbeaten all season with little money - major success

Reading replacing Adkins with Clarke - gone from bottom half to play off hopefuls, although have been able to spend quite substantial amounts - success

Sheffield Wednesday replacing Gray with Carvalhal - very bold and risky decision which so far is reaping its rewards - success

Derby replacing McClaren with Clement - so far looking like a good move as they close in on top of the league - success

Watford replacing McKinley with Jokanovic - secured them automatic promotion - when he was appointed they were outside the top 6 - success

Fulham replacing Magath with Symons - probably a similar situation to us with Bowyer - turned them around and kept them up after a dreadful start, given the opportunity as his first managerial job - yet pressure on to do better after a big spend this summer - we wait and see although so far he has done much better than his predecessor.

Huddersfield replacing Robins with Powell and then sacking Powell - achieved survival which is their first priority and now they have made a change with a view to kicking on and improving as they were perennial bottom half material previously - we wait and see.

Forest replacing Pearce with Freedman - no better off, possibly worse, although have had an embargo to contend with and Freedman hasn't had a penny to spend on his own players - similar state to last season.

Bolton replacing Freedman with Lennon - initially a huge success and rescued them last season, but this season they look nailed on for the drop with 1 win in 15 games - though with their financial constraints not sure anyone could deliver better - similar position to this time last season.

Brentford axing Warburton, experimenting with Dijkhuizen, now with Carsley as interim - shocking decision to get rid of Warburton, bizarre appointment in Dijkhuizen, but Carsley appears to have steadied the ship and they are above us with 4 wins in 5 games = on the whole a poor decision but still in a decent state of health, with several of their better players long term injured.

Wigan going from Rosler to Mackay and Caldwell - changes that failed to achieve any notable change and ensured they dropped into League One.

Blackpool getting rid of Riga and appointing Clark - don't think it made any difference who their manager was with that lot - they were going down anyway.

Multiple managerial changes at Leeds United - achieved nothing as they are still a bottom half side though level with us despite chaos throughout that club.

I'm sure that there are some other examples, but from the above the only clubs that appear to have really suffered last season from managerial changes were Blackpool and Wigan, yet both were entrenched in the relegation zone before making those changes. All the others range from successful changes to little/no improvement. But not many disasters in there.

[Stuart]

So Powell is classed as a failure just one point behind us, a team with a manager who said top 6 was the aim

Even worse, many of those who continue to back Bowyer will think that Hudds are right to pot Powell!

Lets look at the Championship since the start of last season and see which changes have been undoubted successes so far:

Birmingham replacing Clark with Rowett - gone from relegation certainties to play off hopefuls with no money - major success

Brighton replacing Hyypia with Hughton - gone from relegation threatened to top of the league and unbeaten all season with little money - major success

Reading replacing Adkins with Clarke - gone from bottom half to play off hopefuls, although have been able to spend quite substantial amounts - success

Sheffield Wednesday replacing Gray with Carvalhal - very bold and risky decision which so far is reaping its rewards - success

Derby replacing McClaren with Clement - so far looking like a good move as they close in on top of the league - success

Watford replacing McKinley with Jokanovic - secured them automatic promotion - when he was appointed they were outside the top 6 - success

Fulham replacing Magath with Symons - probably a similar situation to us with Bowyer - turned them around and kept them up after a dreadful start, given the opportunity as his first managerial job - yet pressure on to do better after a big spend this summer - we wait and see although so far he has done much better than his predecessor.

Huddersfield replacing Robins with Powell and then sacking Powell - achieved survival which is their first priority and now they have made a change with a view to kicking on and improving as they were perennial bottom half material previously - we wait and see.

Forest replacing Pearce with Freedman - no better off, possibly worse, although have had an embargo to contend with and Freedman hasn't had a penny to spend on his own players - similar state to last season.

Bolton replacing Freedman with Lennon - initially a huge success and rescued them last season, but this season they look nailed on for the drop with 1 win in 15 games - though with their financial constraints not sure anyone could deliver better - similar position to this time last season.

Brentford axing Warburton, experimenting with Dijkhuizen, now with Carsley as interim - shocking decision to get rid of Warburton, bizarre appointment in Dijkhuizen, but Carsley appears to have steadied the ship and they are above us with 4 wins in 5 games = on the whole a poor decision but still in a decent state of health, with several of their better players long term injured.

Wigan going from Rosler to Mackay and Caldwell - changes that failed to achieve any notable change and ensured they dropped into League One.

Blackpool getting rid of Riga and appointing Clark - don't think it made any difference who their manager was with that lot - they were going down anyway.

Multiple managerial changes at Leeds United - achieved nothing as they are still a bottom half side though level with us despite chaos throughout that club.

I'm sure that there are some other examples, but from the above the only clubs that appear to have really suffered last season from managerial changes were Blackpool and Wigan, yet both were entrenched in the relegation zone before making those changes. All the others range from successful changes to little/no improvement. But not many disasters in there.

Excellent post.

Those saying we should not go for a new manager (completely unknown quantity) because they "might" relegate us need to explain why they are so certain that Bowyer (with a track record of failure) won't.

[JBiz]

Even worse, many of those who continue to back Bowyer will think that Hudds are right to pot Powell!

Excellent post.

Those saying we should not go for a new manager (completely unknown quantity) because they "might" relegate us need to explain why they are so certain that Bowyer (with a track record of failure) won't.

Track record of mid table Stuart- that points to safety.

I like JHR's post - lots of it is subjective, for example id argue changing to mclaren was an expensive mistake and then going for clement (not a manager) could also be the same. I'd count leeds as a basket case example also!

The main thing is the clubs who have kicked on made the right appointments! It's a huge point to ignore the chance we may get another chancer!

[den]

Or stupidity if the gamble puts them in league 1 with lower gates.

I think more football fans in general should be aware of the alternate reaction to sacking managers.

I'd like to see a list of managerial changes that have caused an improvement against a list of managerial changes which have had negligible or negative effects.

And that's lack of ambition as well.

TBH, I see a complete lack of ambition running through the club - from the owners, to Shaw, Myers or Bowyer, to a lot of fans. theres absolutely no reason why that should be.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Track record of mid table Stuart- that points to safety.

Neither relegation to League One or Mid-table Championship is safe for Rovers financially. True one might kill you quicker but they both will lead to the same end result.

[Blue blood]

Track record of mid table Stuart- that points to safety.

I like JHR's post - lots of it is subjective, for example id argue changing to mclaren was an expensive mistake and then going for clement (not a manager) could also be the same. I'd count leeds as a basket case example also!

The main thing is the clubs who have kicked on made the right appointments! It's a huge point to ignore the chance we may get another chancer!

The track record of midtable doesn't help bowyer out because it's always below where we should be given our quality. Both the last 2 upper mid finishes should have been top 6. Currently we should be upper mid if we'd taken advantage of poor teams. All it shows is bowyer gets us below where we should be. And if the squad gets weakened much more then a should of lower mid table in that instance would become relegation going on history.

[JHRover]

Sounds as though Huddersfield have identified David Wagner as the man to take over. Wagner was a coach at Borussia Dortmund under Jurgen Klopp and was being lined up to join Liverpool but seems he fancies a crack at management himself instead.

[JHRover]

QPR have sacked Chris Ramsey with Neil Warnock in temporary charge.

No surprises there then. Evidently eyewatering losses don't prevent them from firing their managers.

Will be interesting to see what calibre of manager they attract. Will they throw money at it and get a big name or look to install a coach who will develop players like they wanted with Ramsey?

[DE.]

Saw this coming at the start of the season. QPR should have replaced Ramsey as soon as last season finished. If they were serious about getting back up at the first attempt they needed to appoint a proper manager, not a coach who had shown nothing to suggest he could make the step up.

[yoda]

QPR have sacked Chris Ramsey with Neil Warnock in temporary charge.

No surprises there then. Evidently eyewatering losses don't prevent them from firing their managers.

Will be interesting to see what calibre of manager they attract. Will they throw money at it and get a big name or look to install a coach who will develop players like they wanted with Ramsey?

Did you not know, there are no managers available to Championship clubs

[chaddyrovers]

QPR have sacked Chris Ramsey with Neil Warnock in temporary charge.

No surprises there then. Evidently eyewatering losses don't prevent them from firing their managers.

Will be interesting to see what calibre of manager they attract. Will they throw money at it and get a big name or look to install a coach who will develop players like they wanted with Ramsey?

According to the QPR statement, they are after a head coach not a manager there.

[JHRover]

I saw it coming when Warnock turned up a few weeks ago as an 'advisor'. He knows a thing or two and probably saw right through Ramsey straight away.

[G Somerset Rover]

A proper manager will have them challenging. Perhaps Gaz will be poached given the wonders he's worked at Rovers.

[yoda]

According to the QPR statement, they are after a head coach not a manager there.

Now let me see, who is doing a fine job as coach at another Championship club,

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

ps

posted same time GSR above

[Baz]

Warnock to be re-appointed in the next few days I should think.

[Husky]

A proper manager will have them challenging. Perhaps Gaz will be poached given the wonders he's worked at Rovers.

That's exactly what I was thinking. And they have the cash to poach such a wonder.