[Archived] Transfer Talk Part 2

[Gav]

I have been told he is happy to stay

Not doubting you at all pal, but with our chances of going up being non existent and the debacle with Hull last season, I cannot for the life of me work out why he'd want to stay.

Yes he's in 40k, but he'll get that in the Premirship if he gets a move.

Doesn't add up to me.

[Mercer]

You've just posted Twitter cr@p from Wednesday fan sites!

That's not your thoughts and gut feeling Merc?

Thoughts and gut feel are that he'll leave Rovers and for much less than £12million - hope that clarifies !

[tomphil]

Whether or not it saves money over the next 12 months, it would still require Venkys to cough up a significant lump sum to get shut immediately. If they were planning on bailing imminently or stopping funding and dropping the club into administration then they didn't need to do it. It would have made more sense to plod along meeting the clubs obligations and pocket what cash they can from sales.

If Best was on at least 30k a week and had 52 weeks remaining on his contract then that is £1.5 million minimum, so they will have signed a cheque for a seven figure sum to get him out when they didn't need to.

Not really their money doing it though seeing as we've just sold Cairney. We are led to believe only the finance director went out to India, maybe it was even the bank that summoned him. They could have said you need to carry on making cuts and we could do with generating a cash injection whilst their is no income over summer. Not saying that's what happened but it's another possible scenario whilst the V's just sit in the background letting people plod on with it.

[yoda]

Not doubting you at all pal, but with our chances of going up being non existent and the debacle with Hull last season, I cannot for the life of me work out why he'd want to stay.

Yes he's in 40k, but he'll get that in the Premirship if he gets a move.

Doesn't add up to me.

Not sure anyone in the PL is chasing him at the moment though, If you believe twatter then you may as well believe nicko

[Mercer]

I was waiting for someone to post this on tbh.

When I read on twitter I just laugh at it.

8 mil to Sheff Wed? What a load of rubbish.

I dont see Rhodes leaving Rovers this summer. Cos the price will be far too much for teams to pay and take a risk on.

We turned down Hull's bid and Boro's loan bid last season. Also turn bids down for Gestede(twice) in the last 6/7 months

The Rovers' world has changed significantly from 12 months ago and even from Jan. window.

My view, if V's can get £20m for RG, JR, BM & TC it's a done deal !

Throw in £5m for Hanley and Conway and it wil be party month in Pune !

[roverandout]

I was waiting for someone to post this on tbh.

When I read on twitter I just laugh at it.

8 mil to Sheff Wed? What a load of rubbish.

I dont see Rhodes leaving Rovers this summer. Cos the price will be far too much for teams to pay and take a risk on.

We turned down Hull's bid and Boro's loan bid last season. Also turn bids down for Gestede(twice) in the last 6/7 months

Even though you are happy to post any crap on here that you hear from good or bad sources

[AJW]

Can i ask if a championship club like boro or sheff wed pays £8m for rhodes then pays him 40k a week , wont they too run the risk if failling FFP next year?

[bluebruce]

The Rovers' world has changed significantly from 12 months ago and even from Jan. window.

My view, if V's can get £20m for RG, JR, BM & TC it's a done deal !

Throw in £5m for Hanley and Conway and it wil be party month in Pune !

You don't have a single thing to back up any of that, do you? You're just interpreting a couple of events and whisperings and deciding 'the Rovers' world has changed significantly' since January. Not to mention you need to come further forward than that - wasn't it around March that we rejected a bit of easy money for Rhodes on loan?

[Mercer]

You don't have a single thing to back up any of that, do you? You're just interpreting a couple of events and whisperings and deciding 'the Rovers' world has changed significantly' since January. Not to mention you need to come further forward than that - wasn't it around March that we rejected a bit of easy money for Rhodes on loan?

You must need a nuclear explosion then to spot a difference !!!

[broadsword]

Can't see a premiership club coming in for Rhodes, he just doesn't have enough to his game to be coveted at the moment.

If he leaves, it will be for Middlesboro or someone of that ilk who need a big signing to push them over the top and increase their chances of promotion.

I said before, his fate this summer will be the most reliable barometer of Venky's intentions. If he's sold (against his will?) then Venky's want out, and are having a fire sale.

[chaddyrovers]

The Rovers' world has changed significantly from 12 months ago and even from Jan. window.

My view, if V's can get £20m for RG, JR, BM & TC it's a done deal !

Throw in £5m for Hanley and Conway and it wil be party month in Pune !

So you keep saying Mercerman.

For the past 2 years you have said Rhodes would leave and He hasnt.

Rovers have already TURNED DOWN a bid for Gestede from Watford. 5 mil with 4 mil in adds bid. This was REJECTED.

So how does that 'fit into your theory'???

I only see Gestede leaving now if someone pay the money for him.

[bluebruce]

You must need a nuclear explosion then to spot a difference !!!

An actual answer would be better.

[Mercer]

So you keep saying Mercerman.

For the past 2 years you have said Rhodes would leave and He hasnt.

Rovers have already TURNED DOWN a bid for Gestede from Watford. 5 mil with 4 mil in adds bid. This was REJECTED.

So how does that 'fit into your theory'???

I only see Gestede leaving now if someone pay the money for him.

Additions are no good to the V's if they wont be around to collect !

£6 to £7m up front for RG and he's gone.

Think V's desperate for money and that will be seen in bids to be accepted.

An actual answer would be better.

Have outlined my thoughts in earlier posts (today and recently) - not going to keep repeating.

[Tom]

Whatever your views on Rhodes him leaving would be huge; a real momentum shifter, he's the big name; the kids idol.

If he went I really do think the floodgates would open.

But i also think he won't leave thankfully

[JBiz]

The Rovers' world has changed significantly from 12 months ago and even from Jan. window.

My view, if V's can get £20m for RG, JR, BM & TC it's a done deal !

Throw in £5m for Hanley and Conway and it wil be party month in Pune !

Even in this scenario- they lose 50m+ and a relationship with the BOI. Hardly worth celebrating.

I know it's your gut feeling, but I can't see it happening.

I just see more floundering and idiots still on the gravy train in the void.

[phili]

So you keep saying Mercerman.

For the past 2 years you have said Rhodes would leave and He hasnt.

Rovers have already TURNED DOWN a bid for Gestede from Watford. 5 mil with 4 mil in adds bid. This was REJECTED.

So how does that 'fit into your theory'???

I only see Gestede leaving now if someone pay the money for him.

I think it is more to do with Venky's only funding £5m of losses for the 2015 to 2016 season and Rovers have to fund the remaining £15m through players sales and cutbacks. This £15m reduction is due to FFP and also other business interests they want to fund. Venky's will also pay for any termination of player contracts as it makes the club more sellable.

We are playing hardball as we do not have many sellable assets, we want most cash upfront and without addons.

[Mercer]

Even in this scenario- they lose 50m+ and a relationship with the BOI. Hardly worth celebrating.

I know it's your gut feeling, but I can't see it happening.

I just see more floundering and idiots still on the gravy train in the void.

They've input so far £120m+. Inevitable now that a big loss is on the cards. A significant reduction in that is a bonus !

Relationship with BOI not an issue. If BOI take debenture over Rovers, they will recover what Rovers owe BOI (likely to be close to £15m) together with interest and costs.

[Baz]

This was posted on a SWFC MB today:-'I sub contract to an ex Blackburn players dry lining company and he's still very much involved with the club, he constantly says when I joke about Rhodes and Marshall with him that there's no chance of them especially Rhodes leaving for us......'Which ex-Rover would this be?

An ex-BRFC player.....still very much involved with the club.....owns a dry lining company....who jokes with a Sheff W dry lining sub-contractor....

Shouldn't be too hard to track them down surely? I can't imagine theres more than a couple of hundred to look into.

[JBiz]

They've input so far £120m+. Inevitable now that a big loss is on the cards. A significant reduction in that is a bonus !

s.

How would the money be taken out of the club? Through repayment of loans to parent company? Would this not affect the creditors ability to recoup losses from the capital?

Even if they close the parent company, the connection to Venkys surely points liabilities above the value of the "carcass" directly at them? I'm not financially literate but I didn't think it was possible for owners to take money from businesses in this way.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

The Rovers' world has changed significantly from 12 months ago and even from Jan. window.

My view, if V's can get £20m for RG, JR, BM & TC it's a done deal !

Throw in £5m for Hanley and Conway and it wil be party month in Pune !

Yeh huge party - only £75m to somehow get back - sure they will be over the moon.

[JHRover]

Can i ask if a championship club like boro or sheff wed pays £8m for rhodes then pays him 40k a week , wont they too run the risk if failling FFP next year?

Bang on the point. I keep hearing about how much money Rovers are losing answer how we have to cash in and continue to cut back yet it seems people are at ease or accepting of a Boro or Sheffield or whoever else in the Championship throwing millions around.

Of course it's not possible if FFP is enforced fairly and consistently, but as we are seeing the shady folks running the League have no intention of applying the rules equally to all clubs.

For example, in their last accounts Middlesbrough lost £20 million, an increase on the previous year, yet they are able to sign Downing for £5 million and get praised for doing so!

Meanwhile we cart on with our 17 outfield players and average wage bill and can't sign anyone. How fair is that?

[Baz]

Bang on the point. I keep hearing about how much money Rovers are losing answer how we have to cash in and continue to cut back yet it seems people are at ease or accepting of a Boro or Sheffield or whoever else in the Championship throwing millions around.

Of course it's not possible if FFP is enforced fairly and consistently, but as we are seeing the shady folks running the League have no intention of applying the rules equally to all clubs.

For example, in their last accounts Middlesbrough lost £20 million, an increase on the previous year, yet they are able to sign Downing for £5 million and get praised for doing so!

Meanwhile we cart on with our 17 outfield players and average wage bill and can't sign anyone. How fair is that?

Its surely why clubs should have to detail their ability to sign a player AND keep within FFP before the league sanctions the transfer.

[Josh]

The silence from Brockhall and Ewood Park is as loud as the silence from Pune.

Reason - Bowyer and Shaw are more bothered about keeping their jobs than they are about the club.

As for Myers, it's gone beyond a joke.

If they're going to employ a Communications Director he/she should at least make the effort to communicate.

I haven't read all the posts after this one so I don't know if it's been said, but I believe Myers is a very ill man, or he was.

[yoda]

I haven't read all the posts after this one so I don't know if it's been said, but I believe Myers is a very ill man, or he was.

Life's a bitch, can we afford passengers ?

Is he fit for work, if not someone else should take up the slack, or he should be replaced

[JHRover]

In which case his duties should be delegated to others in the interim period whilst he recovers from his illness. I'm not blaming Myers for the problems. It was obvious when he joined the club there was a big improvement in communication. I wish him well in his recovery. But it doesn't justify an almost complete silence on all levels of the club from owners down. What would we do if the manager became ill? Just leave the players to sort themselves out?