[Archived] Transfer Talk Part 2

[Mercer]

I don't think we can read too much into their promise to ensure funding until 2016. I think they have made that promise every year they have owned the club. It isn't unusual, merely a commitment to the auditors that they have the means and intent to ensure that the club meets its obligations for the next 12 month period until the next set of accounts.

It doesn't mean they won't or can't make an exit, but at the same time it isn't some date by which the club might be left with no funding, because they have done the same thing every year since they took over and as yet haven't walked away.

Correct about 'going concern' assurances for auditors / accounts.

At some point, there will be a 'tipping point'. IMV, failure to get promotion last season by some distance is the 'tipping point'.

[thenodrog]

Let's hope they are planning an exit as the sooner they go the better as for signings being authorised like previously well Erm that's unlikely if there is a fee involved

If they go you can forget ANY signings.... even frees. Why cant people grasp that?

[ABBEY]

Rhodes should not the he cherry on top of the cake, but we dont have a cake just a sloppy blancmange.

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If they go you can forget ANY signings.... even frees. Why cant people grasp that?

and if they carry on ? why cant people grasp that.

[thenodrog]

The acid test will be if someone puts a circa £10m bid in for Rhodes, and this time they decide to sell.

I say Rhodes because Rudy will go anyway.

Personally I'd sell Rhodes and double Gestede's wages or whatever in order to keep him. He doesn't have Rhodes natural finishing skills but he's younger, can lead the line better, is massively better in the air and can hold the ball up. Also imo Gestede is appreciating in value whilst JR is depreciating.

The Venky strategy of stopping spending does seem to make sense, but for one thing - Leon Best.

Why sanction a multi million pay off for him if they have had enough and are looking to dump the club? They could just ignore Best and continue with the head in sand approach, but they presumably consented to the spend to get rid of him.

Warning conspiracy theories only ................

1. Maybe Best's agent has got wind that things aren't good long term and has agreed a big drop in monetary value in order to get a few grand and get out whilst the going is good?

2. Has Best been paid off privately by the venkys in order to get his wages off our books?

[K-Hod]

Personally I'd sell Rhodes and double Gestede's wages or whatever in order to keep him. He doesn't have Rhodes natural finishing skills but he's younger, can lead the line better, is massively better in the air and can hold the ball up. Also imo Gestede is appreciating in value whilst JR is depreciating.

Warning conspiracy theories only ................

1. Maybe Best's agent has got wind that things aren't good long term and has agreed a big drop in monetary value in order to get a few grand and get out whilst the going is good?

2. Has Best been paid off privately by the venkys in order to get his wages off our books?

He's nearly 2 years older than Rhodes Gordon

[tomphil]

If they are planning an exit and maybe to try and sell the club in the future then they'd still be following the cost cutting etc to make the club more saleable in the long term.

He's nearly 2 years older than Rhodes Gordon

He's also prone to little niggling injuries on a regular basis and for me although he's decent on the ground Bowyer can only really play hoof to get the best out of him.

[thenodrog]

Can i ask if a championship club like boro or sheff wed pays £8m for rhodes then pays him 40k a week , wont they too run the risk if failling FFP next year?

Good question but have you factored in that FFP only seems to apply to us?

[JHRover]

Personally I'd sell Rhodes and double Gestede's wages or whatever in order to keep him. He doesn't have Rhodes natural finishing skills but he's younger, can lead the line better, is massively better in the air and can hold the ball up. Also imo Gestede is appreciating in value whilst JR is depreciating.

Warning conspiracy theory only ................ Maybe Best's agent has got wind that things aren't good long term and has agreed a big drop in monetary value in order to get a few grand and get out whilst the going is good?

Don't agree on the Gestede point.

For me Rhodes is a far better individual to have around the camp. How many times has he been linked with a move away over the last 2 years? Not once has he stomped his feet, gone to the press, refused to play. He has got his head down time after time and worked hard for BRFC without allowing the speculation to affect him.

I remember Rhodes after the speculation last summer - he insisted he wanted to play for Rovers on the Saturday against Bournemouth and ran his socks off in that game, giving it everything for the shirt. He responded to the speculation how every footballer should - by going out and giving everything for his club - rather than sulking and pretending to be injured.

Every time Rhodes is ever interviewed he is completely professional in the way he conducts himself. Complimentary about the club and shows complete respect.

Compare to Gestede who through his agent has made numerous murmurings about wanting out, is clearly pushing for a move, and who knows how he will respond if he doesn't get the move he desires this summer. I noticed a drop off in his performances in the second half of last season when his move to Palace didn't materialise in January.

Add to that, even if we kept Gestede this summer, sooner or later he will get into the Premier League. He's only got 2 years remaining and is unlikely to commit to longer. Rhodes has 4 years remaining and showed he was happy to stay last summer. Our chances of keeping Rhodes long term are better than keeping Gestede.

And Rhodes (25) is younger than Gestede (26).

[thenodrog]

you should know all teams bar us don't care about the regs and tear up , flaunt and abuse the rules whilst shaw & myres fill their boots with money for old rope.

Your not a fan of a striker that always scores goals. ?

Seems thats precisely what Mrs Desai did last summer. She refused to sell Rhodes to Hull despite knowing that we were in contravention of FFP AND she seems to be a big fan of his.

Have you written to thank her for 'standing on' and keeping your favourite player Abbey?

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and if they carry on ? why cant people grasp that.

then surely BRFC carries on.

He's nearly 2 years older than Rhodes Gordon

Ooops... I was guilty of going perception. My mistake.

[chaddyrovers]

REV - There is a massive problem with decision making at Rovers at present due to everything now being back to Pune for approval, this was not the case for the last 18 months whereby decision making was much quicker, this slowness of decision making is effecting every facet of the club. Gary put in a request to sign a couple of players 2 weeks ago as he wanted them on the trip to Portugal but no decision cameback despite numerous requests. FINALLY yesterday he has from what I have been told been given the green light to sign a player (no idea who).

I don't have an agenda to be a doom and gloom merchant, but it is frankly ridiculous that even simple decisions are taking an age to be approved. I would suggest that to Venky's if they don't trust the executive board that they have appointed to run the club then they sack them, as was proved 2 years ago, you cannot run a modern football club particularly during the transfer window if decision making takes an age.

Well thats not the way to run a football club? Wonder if they dont trust Shaw and Slivester to run the club for them anymore and are speaking to people(MD/CEO) to come and run the club for them.

The problem is Bowyer needs to be signing players now not in month time(unless we sell a player).

We need a box to box midfielder and pacey winger/striker in.

[EgyptianPete]

Well thats not the way to run a football club? Wonder if they dont trust Shaw and Slivester to run the club for them anymore and are speaking to people(MD/CEO) to come and run the club for them.

The problem is Bowyer needs to be signing players now not in month time(unless we sell a player).

We need a box to box midfielder and pacey winger/striker in.

If as stated our FD went to see the Pune loons then it would be un comprehensible that said FD did not let shelfy and Gazza know the score.

[T J Hooker]

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Sorry, my phones auto correct is worst than me

[ABBEY]

Sorry, my phones auto correct is worst than me

[1864roverite]

A bit off track but people keep going on about the creditors pulling the plug and calling the cash in.

I may be wrong BUT isn't the debt to the owners?

Secondly, Indian business pride alone will see them not wanting to fail as it is a huge slap in their faces for being a failure especially with such a high profile business and another point would be going back on their words to fund until 2016, another nono in Indian business speak.

Maybe, they have streamlined everything that was bad about the club and maybe their is a business plan in place.

Its just a thought. I don't think they would have paid off the laziest and continued with funding if they were ready to bail at this moment. Maybe next year but not this.

Could be totally wrong but there could be some sense about it.

[ABBEY]

They already HAVE failed pal and THEY are EVERYTHING bad with the club

[Damien]

They stuck with Kean through thick and thin. The only managers they got rid of were while Shebby was in control - so the question has to be asked would they have got rid of Berg or Appleton if left to their own devices ?

Again - I don't think your theory has a firm enough basis. You could have course be right - but you are drawing conclusions on limited evidence.

Bottom line - nobody knows what they are planning - and history has shown that people are often wrong when trying to guess what they will do next.

Bowyer has done a decent job in charge... The club have been comfortable in the league... Why would they risk cocking it up!

I know we all want a proven manager to get us up but from their perspective... They haven't had any good managers in place and probs don't think they will do better.

My guess of course!

[ABBEY]

Bowyer has done a decent job in charge... The club have been comfortable in the league... Why would they risk cocking it up!

I know we all want a proven manager to get us up but from their perspective... They haven't had any good managers in place and probs don't think they will do better.

My guess of course!

languishing in the championship is not comfortable and cocking it up,they have already done this.

[yoda]

Bowyer has done a decent job in charge... The club have been comfortable in the league... Why would they risk cocking it up!

I know we all want a proven manager to get us up but from their perspective... They haven't had any good managers in place and probs don't think they will do better.

My guess of course!

Mmmmm, SA might question that

[bluebruce]

Streamlined everything that was bad about the club? They DEFINITELY have not done that.

[windymiller7]

If Wheelock is right and Furman 'is impressing in training' then he could well be the signing mnetioned above, but a quick talented striker on loan from a Prem club would be ideal. We're not in for Long though according to Wheelock.

Was Furman with us a couple of weeks ago? If not then it could point to him having something lined up elsewhere in addition to the trialists.

[LewisF]

Was Furman with us a couple of weeks ago? If not then it could point to him having something lined up elsewhere in addition to the trialists.

Fur man's been on trial for quite a few weeks now

[AdamRochina]

Bournemouth are the latest club to enquire about Rhodes according to ...you guessed it..TWITTERRRRRR

Every window Rhodes is sold to around 98 different clubs

[ABBEY]

what does your fifa say?

[Gav]

Bournemouth are the latest club to enquire about Rhodes according to ...you guessed it..TWITTERRRRRR

Every window Rhodes is sold to around 98 different clubs

Usually by our Mercer

[Tom]

From Kamy on twitter

Led to believe that GB has FINALLY received permission from 'confused in Pune' to make a signing. No idea who it is.

Petshi time?