[Archived] Transfer Talk Part 2

[Mercer]

IMO, IMV Blah, blah, blah, blah blah.

Maybe the owners could cash in on some of the youngsters?

It is quite clear that you are intellectually vacuous and clueless as to how the world of finance in commerce and industry works.

So unless you have anything constructive to say then kindly do one and return to your two piece jigsaw, if that's not too taxing.

[Athlete]

Of course they can't. Unless of course the Football League turn a blind eye and allow them to spend what they want to buy promotion and hope they do a Leicester and go up and stay up so they don't need to worry about punishing them.

Even if we sold Rhodes for £7 million cash. Throw in his wages and it is a £10 million transfer. Combine with Downing and his wages and other business and it will be the best part of £20 million summer expenditure for a club getting similar gates to ours with no Premier League money or major sales.

Its impossible. Unless we're supposed to believe Middlesbrough made a £10 million profit last year instead of the £20 million loss in their accounts.

They're basically putting two fingers up to FFP

[arbitro]

How do Boro offer £7-8 million up front though? Are they not bound by £8 million annual losses like we are?

They have an owner who knows what he is doing and he is backed by professional fit for purpose people in senior positions within the club. If there is any truth in the story then I'm sure they will have scrutinised the extremely vague FFP regulations and can see a way to exploit or circumvent them.

Pretty much polar opposite to us.

[chris_h]

It is quite clear that you are intellectually vacuous and clueless as to how the world of finance in commerce and industry works.So unless you have anything constructive to say then kindly do one and return to your two piece jigsaw, if that's not too taxing.

At the end of last season we had a little ray of sunshine in the emergence of Lenihan, Raya and O'Sullivan. You, of course, couldn't have that and so you told us to expect Premiership clubs in for one of the above three (for nothing of course) and even hinted at younger players being cherry picked. That 'story' was going to 'break by the weekend'. As that was a number of weeks ago and, as I have your attention, perhaps you could provide an update?

When you've done that maybe you could address JHRovers' points?

They have an owner who knows what he is doing and he is backed by professional fit for purpose people in senior positions within the club. If there is any truth in the story then I'm sure they will have scrutinised the extremely vague FFP regulations and can see a way to exploit or circumvent them.

Pretty much polar opposite to us.

He is a very good owner but that doesn't give him a pass to ignore the rules of FFP

(Does it?)

[imy9]

Think the world at Rovers has changed dramatically since Hull's £12m Rhodes offer last August and even from January's window.

IMV, Boro offer £7 to £8m up front for Rhodes then he's gone.

The bottom line is that V's seem to want cash quick - whilst they wont give Rhodes / Gestede away, you can forget all the fanciful valuations of the past.

With all due respect Mercer, what you have said above has been said by yourself during every transfer window. Kamy has said this morning Rhodes will go IF Venky's get their price. Based on what they have done in the past that will be no lower than what Hull offered previously.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

It is quite clear that you are intellectually vacuous and clueless as to how the world of finance in commerce and industry works.

So unless you have anything constructive to say then kindly do one and return to your two piece jigsaw, if that's not too taxing.

Where are you getting your information from that they are desperate to cash in on any of our decent players - or are you just putting 2 and 2 together ? (Beyond the need to meet ffp - which is what you keep inferring)

[tomphil]

Get ready for administration soon Rovers fans

Get ready for not signing any of our players nor anyone of note and finishing nowhere again any snooping Wendies fans

[davulsukur]

How do Boro offer £7-8 million up front though? Are they not bound by £8 million annual losses like we are?

Boro posted losses of £20million in their last accounts but still remained unpunished. And now they are splashing even more cash.

[Kamy100]

Think the world at Rovers has changed dramatically since Hull's £12m Rhodes offer last August and even from January's window.

IMV, Boro offer £7 to £8m up front for Rhodes then he's gone.

The bottom line is that V's seem to want cash quick - whilst they wont give Rhodes / Gestede away, you can forget all the fanciful valuations of the past.

I'll tell you now that no way that they will take £7-£8 million for Rhodes, not a chance. They have recently proved with Rudy that while they are willing to sell him and Rhodes they will not accept bids that are below their valuation, nor will they accept any "buy now pay later" type bids.

For what it is worth, my personal opinion is that both Rudy and Rhodes will be gone by 30th August, simply because come the end of the transfer window there are PL clubs who will get desperate and pay Rovers their valuations, same happened last year. Hull flirted with a few £8 million bids at the start of the window for Rhodes, eventually they decided to pay what Rovers wanted (£12 million) only for Balaji to veto it. This year though if someone does meet Venky's valuation then there will be no veto and the players will be sold.

Boro posted losses of £20million in their last accounts but still remained unpunished. And now they are splashing even more cash.

Those accounts to be considered in this round of FFP so likely that they will be put under embargo in Januar, hence maybe the reason why they are buying big now?

[thenodrog]

If Rovers want the cash up front for Rhodes, rather than the promise of an amount were a club to get promoted in the future, then that must rule out all Championship clubs.

As someone has already pointed out, Middlesbrough have just signed Downing for £5 million and he will be on considerable wages. They have also taken on Baptiste's hefty Bolton contract at an estimated £18k per week. They haven't sold anyone. They haven't got parachute money. Their gates are about 15,000 per week.

If Rovers want at least what they paid for Rhodes e.g. £8 million then how can Middlesbrough pay that on top of what they have already spent this summer?

It is impossible under FFP. If it is allowed to happen then it shows that FFP for what it is. A sham.

And Boro for being financially stupid. Lets be honest the lower leagues are littered with clubs that have blown their brains out in similar fashion.

[JHRover]

How do we know there will be no veto?

These lunatics are impossible to predict.

So if say Norwich came in with a £12 million bid for Rhodes in the last week of August, Shaw got the deal lined up, everyone expected him to go, yet Balaji/Mrs Desai could wake up in the morning and decide they weren't prepared to do the deal. Seemingly all it takes is for one of them to decide it isn't going to happen and it won't happen.

Adam Le Fondre should be high on our list of targets should either of them leave. Infact, I'd be looking at him now to complement Rhodes/Rudy. He ticks all the boxes, Cardiff want shut, he wants a North West club. We should be all over that.

Give him a one year contract on £10k a week with an option to extend it longer on a bigger wage once the embargo is lifted.

[tomphil]

I thought it was Mrs D who vetoed it last time. Doesn't Balaji usually get overruled by big sis.

[thenodrog]

Get ready for administration soon Rovers fans

What kept you?

[Kamy100]

I thought it was Mrs D who vetoed it last time. Doesn't Balaji usually get overruled by big sis.

It was Balaji, for all major decisions (which this would be) all 4 of the lunatics (Mrs D, her husband and the chuckle brothers) have to be in agreement. Last time it was Balaji who wasn't willing to sell in the end.

[Iceman]

We might as well just sell all our players at this rate. I still want to know(Ignore the embargo for a moment) , why the idiots are selling our better players to direct rivals in the Championship? Im fine if we sold them to a PL team or anywhere else, but how do we go about strengthening other teams, yet cant seem to sort ourselves out?

[neophox]

Balaji seems to be the only one of the venkys that seems to interest whats happening here and have a sports interest.

[JHRover]

Balaji seems to be the only one of the venkys that seems to interest whats happening here and have a sports interest.

Yet seemingly it is Mrs Desai who takes the lead over the other 3. She is the one the manager goes to speak to and ask for money for transfers. Yet major decisions require the agreement of all 4.

A business model that is beyond comprehension.

[mhead]

Get em sold as soon as possible and move on!

Its not like Big Al and the barcodes.

Give the Venkys some of their money back, get the team style changed,and get prepared for the "Venkxit"

RTID

[J*B]

For the love of god please do not try and predict what Venkys will and won't do. It doesn't matter how many sources anyone has, what makes financial sense, the reality is they're @#/? fruitloafs and anything could happen.

[Pedro]

The most uninspiring pre season ever. I'm genuinely not bothered who goes, who may or may not sign and not remotely looking fwd to a very long, hard season. The nightmare continues.

[neophox]

Who would buy rovers?

[JayPeeBee40]

At the moment no regular starter from last season has left the club.. Right now we still have a pretty decent squad, albeit a small one..

[AllRoverAsia]

At the moment no regular starter from last season has left the club.. Right now we still have a pretty decent squad, albeit a small one..

Ok but we have a manager who is kind of known for tinkering or feckin around with line-ups in common tongue. Regular starters, well if fit there are 2

[AdamRochina]

Boro fans think it's nailed on Rhodes is joining them

[ABBEY]

Best cut your brand new shiny season ticket up then