[Archived] Is It Time To Protest Against Venkys?

[Pedro]

I got a Chinese burn off a Rovers Fan and my mate got nipped off an eight year old. There was also a rumour that someone was wedgied outside the Riverside.

[AllRoverAsia]

I got a Chinese burn off a Rovers Fan and my mate got nipped off an eight year old. There was also a rumour (and) that someone was wedgied outside the Riverside.

Pedro this is not a dig at you - but it is a messageboard Gold quote.

[Gav]

I got a Chinese burn off a Rovers Fan and my mate got nipped off an eight year old. There was also a rumour that someone was wedgied outside the Riverside.

For someone who thinks this thread is full of attention seeking liars you're rather active pedro, not getting enough attention elsewhere

[yoda]

i will still get blamed

Only because you can't walk on water,

Can you ?

[ABBEY]

Some say on I do float or is that @#/? , I can never remember

[Mattyblue]

I'll always protest but I'm still sore from how our fans reacted last time and I can imagine with a more acceptable manager in charge it will be even more of a sh*t storm. I remember handing out flyers outside the Blackburn end, people looked at me like scum and said really offensive things. Rovers fans have been spoon-fed titles, premier league football and even european football all at next nothing prices, yet when it comes to fighting for what they believe in they just don't have the bottle or simply don't care enough... Makes me sick and at a time of remembering a great man, I'm sure he would be ashamed. I resent most of our 'fans' now, don't like our owners, don't like the manager... Makes you wonder why even bother!

Venkys Out

Bowyer Out

Shaw Out

I learnt a lot about the psyche of football fans during that season.

I went on the marches and received a load of abuse in the ground for it. I believe supporting your club is about wanting the best for it, by looking at he bigger picture- i.e. getting Kean removed.

However, a lot of fans simply think game to game- you are at Ewood, 'get behind the lads'. That's it.

You will never reconcile those two viewpoints.

[ABBEY]

I learnt a lot about the psyche of football fans during that season.

I went on the marches and received a load of abuse in the ground for it. I believe supporting your club is about wanting the best for it, by looking at he bigger picture- i.e. getting Kean removed.

However, a lot of fans simply think game to game- you are at Ewood, 'get behind the lads'. That's it.

You will never reconcile those two viewpoints.

TJ won't believe that you got abused .

[T J Hooker]

Oh will you shut up you man

[ABBEY]

Ha don't get ya knickers in a twist

[Pedro]

For someone who thinks this thread is full of attention seeking liars you're rather active pedro, not getting enough attention elsewhere

Don't be such a drama queen Gav. I criticised one person for blatantly stirring the hornets nest with an imaginary tale, in order to get the locals in a flap.

For what it's worth, the worst thing any Rovers fan could possibly do is protest against the owners at this particular time. Results simply aren't happening, let's see if they change management and who they then bring in. If that person is woeful, the endgame won't change, so fine, get the pitchforks out again and fast forward us to administration.

Attention seeking via SkyTV, isn't going to do jack (in a positive way). It doesn't make you a super-fan and the media (who I have worked for) won't sympathise with us and will utilise whatever footage they can to make us look stupid. As much as it hurts, in large, we aren't a bonny bunch at Ewood and unfortunately, in this fickle world, that stops people taking you seriously...eg, who would give a flying **** about Chelsea's club doctor if she was a middle-aged doc with a bald head? Mark my words, the fattest, most toothless, misguided and illiterate will get the primetime footage and any sensible argument and sympathy will be lost.

So forgive the likes of me who hate what Venkys have done to the club but think that the initial protests weren't very well timed or thought out - both in terms of garnering support from fellow supporters and the media. Forgive me for thinking very deeply into things, not seeing the solution to all of this as courting TV cameras, shouting at an empty owners' box and writing on a bedsheet and forgive me for wanting to sit back and see what the very next play is by the owners. I will personally never forget how their choices and appointments have transformed Blackburn Rovers into a relegated laughing stock, but right now, I am happy for them to spend their money on keeping us afloat in the faint hope of a miracle managerial appointment that kickstarts the sleepy talent we have here (which I can genuinely see in this squad).

[JBiz]

I will personally never forget how their choices and appointments have transformed Blackburn Rovers into a relegated laughing stock, but right now, I am happy for them to spend their money on keeping us afloat in the faint hope of a miracle managerial appointment that kickstarts the sleepy talent we have here (which I can genuinely see in this squad).

Bit convoluted?

I mean if you'll never forgive or forget the damage they've done via the managers seat, why are you faintly expecting or hoping for a miracle?

If the problems had been solved to ensure we are running correctly, we wouldn't have this sun article causing so much more embarrassment.

If the club had returned to the way it should be run, internally things should be already in motion without us knowing. I know a few people namely Stuart has a lot of faith in deadly Derek, but I just see the managers spot at this club as the leaf of the weed.

Until we know they are getting proper advice from people who care about the fans and club, not their own pocket - the roots of the weeds will never be removed.

Say we lose and GB rightfully is sacked after the game, if it takes the 2 months from Kean to Berg or the 1 month of Berg to MA, we could be 10/15 games into the season without a win.

Or potentially if CS steps in and does well, we all know that he will be very much one of the favorites.

Look at the way JW moved after Ince. I think as fans we didn't even need to say or chant for it because the chairman was on the ball and already had decided who would be replacing him.

I'd love to be suprised by all this - if he does go, Pearson/Lambert in within 72 hours.... But realistically?

That's the problem. Hindered by structure and it'll not likely improve till either Venkys cluck off or start doing things properly.

[ABBEY]

Blackpool fans protested again yesterday . They apperently occupied various Oyston offices and the hotel . Some were arrested and as a result the protests went outside the police station .

Our protests result in abuse for anyone daring to speak against the vscum.

[Gav]

Blackpool fans protested again yesterday . They apperently occupied various Oyston offices and the hotel . Some were arrested and as a result the protests went outside the police station .

Our protests result in abuse for anyone daring to speak against the vscum.

All credit to them, they're fighting for whats right, the future of the football club, not interested in Oystons money or where the next pound is coming from.

Don't be such a drama queen Gav. I criticised one person for blatantly stirring the hornets nest with an imaginary tale, in order to get the locals in a flap.

You're the drama queen Pedro, hence your original post to attract attention, but lets leave that alone.

The rest of your post offers nothing to the protest debate, you're another who thinks sitting back and taking the Venky dollar is preferable to getting the idiots out, which is fine of course if thats what you believe.

I don't advocate kicking up a fuss on SKY Tv myself, but then again I don't care what the rest of the country think, or those drunks on sky. The Bpool have have the right idea, they've got balls and are willing to sacrifice to save the club whilst most of our fans are happy munching prawn sandwiches.

Each to their own, thats everyones right.

[K-Hod]

Superfans you two

[Gav]

Superfans you two

Not superfans, just willing to go that extra mile K-Hod, for a club thats been in my family since the 1880's, it matters, I feel a sense of responsibility to try and do the right thing.

Try coming out of that comfort zone for once, you never know you may like it

[Jock]

I know a lot of Blackpool fans and they're determined to get Oyston out. It has cost some of them thousands. When they talk about Rovers they always say that we are a soft lot who don't care about our club. I know this isn't everyone but I do wonder how many do care.

[K-Hod]

I learnt a lot about the psyche of football fans during that season.

I went on the marches and received a load of abuse in the ground for it. I believe supporting your club is about wanting the best for it, by looking at he bigger picture- i.e. getting Kean removed.

However, a lot of fans simply think game to game- you are at Ewood, 'get behind the lads'. That's it.

You will never reconcile those two viewpoints.

This is the thing Matty, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but the bigger picture isn't the what here, it's the how.

We need rid of Venky's ultimately, but they're thousands of miles away. The Oyston family live in the Ribble Valley and are present at the ground every home game.

Everything has gone to sh1t since they've been here and we need change, but in order to do so I don't think stamping our feet is the best way, we've tried that, without success. Getting an audience with Shaw could be a starting point, or just anyone at the club, to try and make a start on sorting out this giant mess of a football club we've become, that we're all sick of.

[tomphil]

Oyston is a bit easier to target than Venkys. We could protest outside Venkys London offices but it wouldn't do much good seeing as it's probably just a postal box !

[K-Hod]

Not superfans, just willing to go that extra mile K-Hod, for a club thats been in my family since the 1880's, it matters, I feel a sense of responsibility to try and do the right thing.

Try coming out of that comfort zone for once, you never know you may like it

I agree we need to get them out Gav, but the approach I believe we need is a different one to the one you're suggesting.

I love the club as well, and I want to do what's best, but the comparison with Blackpool isn't necessarily a great one, as it's much easier to 'get the attention' of owners that turn up to games and live reasonably locally. I'm just getting a bit fed up of reading what we should be doing when the two situations are nothing alike in reality.

[Gav]

As always it just goes round and round in circles and I'm sure people are just sick of hearing me harping on about protesting, so I'm going to shut up, I'm turning into everything I hate about this site, its pulls you I tell you

Protests will occur naturally if things deteriorate on the pitch, things have been bad in the board room for years and nobody seems that worried, so its the footballing side that will kick things off.

All that said I want us to start winning and soon, but if things get bad and the fans decide its time to make a stand I hope to be part of that in whatever form it takes.

[Mattyblue]

This is the thing Matty, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but the bigger picture isn't the what here, it's the how.

We need rid of Venky's ultimately, but they're thousands of miles away. The Oyston family live in the Ribble Valley and are present at the ground every home game.

Everything has gone to sh1t since they've been here and we need change, but in order to do so I don't think stamping our feet is the best way, we've tried that, without success. Getting an audience with Shaw could be a starting point, or just anyone at the club, to try and make a start on sorting out this giant mess of a football club we've become, that we're all sick of.

To be honest I was only talking about the events of 2012. At that stage, I don't think we realised just how bizarre these owners were. It was usually very simple- you keep getting beat and the fans turn, you're out.

Therefore, it was in our interests for us to unite as fans and get the clown out of the club. However, as it dragged on, the 'just get behind the lads FFS' crew got louder and Ewood became a pretty horrible place.

[T J Hooker]

Oyston is a bit easier to target than Venkys. We could protest outside Venkys London offices but it wouldn't do much good seeing as it's probably just a postal box !

exactly, if the venkys had an office, business or outlet locally(other than the club/stadium itself) then i'm pretty certain that it would have been bombarded years ago.

[ABBEY]

Yea course it would TJ .. We got endless abuse when we target them when they come to Ewood . The Rovers Fans are not up for any rocking of the chicken coop

[tomphil]

exactly, if the venkys had an office, business or outlet locally(other than the club/stadium itself) then i'm pretty certain that it would have been bombarded years ago.

Aye and we'd have been ripped to bits for it on Sky and every newspaper, probably tarred as racists or something. Unfortunately we are up against a completely different beast than Blackpool are. Oystons are nowt but ten bob playboys compared to Venkys & co, Blackpool fans have wide spread sympathy all over the country and within footballs corridors of power but like us they are small fry so their plight gets ignored by the powers that be.

Owen Oystons always had a terrible rep anyway and Karls antics have shown him up for the tit that he is. In our case in many peoples eyes outside of Blackburn Venkys are the bloody victims and get the sympathy for being naïve owners who were just simply badly advised and got it all wrong. We know that's only half right but until the world is told what's really gone on we'll continue to get called unreasonable.

The story somehow needs to be told warts and all then take it from there.

[Feniscowles Blue]

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