[Archived] Is It Time To Protest Against Venkys?

[den]

So in answer to the OP........

We've changed manager to a guy who's done it at this level. A guy who knows how the game should be played. Team performances have already improved for the better. The players are busting a gut for him. He wants promotion - as do the players. Don't forget "promotion" was a non used word at this club. He's just sold one of the worst footballing strikers that I've ever seen for a ridiculous fee. We're scoring more goals and were winning more games and we haven't touched that money yet. He's submitted his "plan" - yep, an actual plan - and the owners are yet to respond. What the heck is there to protest about?

The answer is a resounding no. Not yet. Get a grip.

[JHRover]

The time to protest is when Lambert quits, which if he has respect for the club will be after the season has finished. The most effective form of protest IMO if this happens is for people to not buy season tickets, which is likely to be the preferred option of most people who are tired, frustrated, and altogether sick and fed up with the whole operation.

If Lambert stays, then no need for protests of any form.

[Gav]

If you think Venkys will take this club forward then we have nothing to protest about den.

[Leonard Venkhater]

I thought he was just making a stance and refusing to accept his warning.

Sorry for going of topic.

Fine with me. I am not OCD!

[den]

If you think Venkys will take this club forward then we have nothing to protest about den.

I don't know what they'll do Gav. They've been called to task now, so let's see. There's only the appointment of a proper CEO with the power to make decisions quickly from Ewood, standing between them giving the club the ability to move forwards, or continuing with the decline. It's far from impossible.

If this falls through, the chances of rovers losing a lot of credibility with their own fans will be very high. What can they do? Just don't go. That's all I can suggest.

[BlueMonday]

Don't you mean nit picky?

(Sorry mate lol)

I didn't think you were so nick picky OldJam

Yes thats what I meant, auto correct is Not your friend at times.

[Mr. E]

It's almost amazing how much of a complete **** Venkys give a damn about anything that is happening at Ewood. It's just barren land.

[T J Hooker]

Corrected for you.

So that's what trolling is....... thanks for the example

[glen9mullan]

The problem is , what do you protest about that has not already been protested about and already been ignored?

The proof is in the pudding and the summer will answer the questions.

Venkys have not and are never likely to let the directors run the club, so it does not matter if we have 1 or 21 directors, i cannot see this changing.

Venkys will never communicate with the supporter base.

Lambert wants to know their plans, but plans can change, lets get the season out of the way. He knew what he was inheriting and will have to knuckle down and prove he can be a good custodian of a decent budget.

Many of us are annoyed, frustrated at what has been a none event of a season, but history tells us, they just dont care what we think

[Leonard Venkhater]

The time to protest is when Lambert quits, which if he has respect for the club will be after the season has finished. The most effective form of protest IMO if this happens is for people to not buy season tickets, which is likely to be the preferred option of most people who are tired, frustrated, and altogether sick and fed up with the whole operation.

If Lambert stays, then no need for protests of any form.

I think it might be worth sending a loud message that we are backing PL....before the summer.

[Hasta]

Sorry Hasta I'm not having that.

Aston Villa are a big club that have been in the premiership since its creation, they're a joke of a club now that buy players by vote, not by manager decision alone, thats just madness and on his watch.

They're now a championship club in reality, so to say Lerner is far from catastrophic is wide of the mark, they're a club that could well fall through the leagues if the next managerial appointment isn't right, he's they're not at Venky levels yet, but he's getting there.

Lerner has appointed the wrong people at the top of the club, has given them the money and they have made a mess of it.

Of course he's ultimately to blame. However he's a fair way from the elite of bad owners in this country.

[T J Hooker]

The problem is , what do you protest about that has not already been protested about and already been ignored?

The proof is in the pudding and the summer will answer the questions.

Venkys have not and are never likely to let the directors run the club, so it does not matter if we have 1 or 21 directors, i cannot see this changing.

Venkys will never communicate with the supporter base.

Lambert wants to know their plans, but plans can change, lets get the season out of the way. He knew what he was inheriting and will have to knuckle down and prove he can be a good custodian of a decent budget.

Many of us are annoyed, frustrated at what has been a none event of a season, but history tells us, they just dont care what we think

I do agree that Lambert should be a bit more professional and just knuckle down and get on with what he's got, he may not know exactly how much he has to spend in the summer, but what he does seem to have is free reign of managing the football club without much(if any) interference from the board/owners, which is something I imagine most managers would love, but that said he's just being honest and answering the questions that are being put to him.

[Gav]

Lerner has appointed the wrong people at the top of the club, has given them the money and they have made a mess of it.

Of course he's ultimately to blame. However he's a fair way from the elite of bad owners in this country.

Sorry Hasta but ultimately his tenure has resulted in Aston Villa being relegated, a massive club with massive support, so many bad decisions on his watch including buying players by voting across the board!

Bonkers and I've not even mentioned Lamberts tenure, Sherwood had no experience and was clueless, appointed by the press, just amateurish, much like at Ewood.

[yoda]

"It was sarcasm. Generally I don't see that as humor or joking.

OK TJ in this particular instance I was wrong. Just an angry reaction to a totally uncalled for comment. People just better not expect me to answer the same questions over and over from now on. Suppose with Abbey being suspended (and Yoda being conspicuous by his absence last day or so) harassment should drop about 90%.

I'll simplify it for you GAV. Possibly more humor in protests, (though I prefer sarcasm) funding source(s), more charismatic fan "leaders" hopefully that's easier to figure out."

VINJAY !!!!!!

You missed me !

Ah bless, how sweet

[patrickvalery]

Personally speaking I can't see the sense in protests right here right now. Imo if lambert ups and leaves then I'd have every man woman and child in the jw lay a lilly in the directors box. No fuss. Just a show of mourning. It would get media attention and wouldn't leave us open to ridicule as we suffered under Kean. Media attention has been and always will be the only way to hurt these idiots. Do it respectfully and you get the sympathy of the media. You win the media you win the war. Last time, I'm afraid to say, we let Kean win the media and we lost the war. At least morally.

[tomphil]

I do agree that Lambert should be a bit more professional and just knuckle down and get on with what he's got, he may not know exactly how much he has to spend in the summer, but what he does seem to have is free reign of managing the football club without much(if any) interference from the board/owners, which is something I imagine most managers would love, but that said he's just being honest and answering the questions that are being put to him.

I back him 100% but I hope it's not becoming arse covering from him in the way GB constantly banged on about other teams who had the odd player who cost brass whilst ignoring those at his disposal, before blaming it all on the embargo when we landed in that.

Given the stuff Lambo said when he came in about all that not being any excuse then now he's said his piece he should knuckle down and get on with it. We saw with Bowyer how these public comments then transmit to players and they start hiding behind it.

[Gav]

I'll concede that despite my posturing and blustering its not quite the right time to kick off, but if Lambert walks out of the club I really hope the fans finally turn on mass and at least try and take some control of the situation.

If nothing else people will have tried.

Doing nothing is not option, Venkys Out

[Mr. E]

The problem is , what do you protest about that has not already been protested about and already been ignored?

The proof is in the pudding and the summer will answer the questions.

Venkys have not and are never likely to let the directors run the club, so it does not matter if we have 1 or 21 directors, i cannot see this changing.

Venkys will never communicate with the supporter base.

Lambert wants to know their plans, but plans can change, lets get the season out of the way. He knew what he was inheriting and will have to knuckle down and prove he can be a good custodian of a decent budget.

Many of us are annoyed, frustrated at what has been a none event of a season, but history tells us, they just dont care what we think

Ok, but then maybe it's time to protest against the ultimate villains in this story - the people who allowed Venkys to take us over, and allow all other @#/? poor owners to come ruin other clubs as well - the FA.

You are right that individual protests aren't going to do anything anymore. So maybe it's time for a mass supporter protest consisting of several clubs against FA's wild-west careless "vetting" of club buyouts. There needs to be total reformation of the entire structure from top to bottom. I am still waiting for an explanation for how anyone at the FA thought it would be a good and sensible idea to allow some kind of chicken farming company from India with no football experience of any kind to run a century old English top-flight club.

Otherwise, yeah. There is no light at the end of the tunnel.

[47er]

So in answer to the OP........

We've changed manager to a guy who's done it at this level. A guy who knows how the game should be played. Team performances have already improved for the better. The players are busting a gut for him. He wants promotion - as do the players. Don't forget "promotion" was a non used word at this club. He's just sold one of the worst footballing strikers that I've ever seen for a ridiculous fee. We're scoring more goals and were winning more games and we haven't touched that money yet. He's submitted his "plan" - yep, an actual plan - and the owners are yet to respond. What the heck is there to protest about?

The answer is a resounding no. Not yet. Get a grip.

You don't think we are being led slowly to the close season when protests have no point or focus? Too late then?

[Veevs]

Ok, but then maybe it's time to protest against the ultimate villains in this story - the people who allowed Venkys to take us over, and allow all other @#/? poor owners to come ruin other clubs as well - the FA.

You are right that individual protests aren't going to do anything anymore. So maybe it's time for a mass supporter protest consisting of several clubs against FA's wild-west careless "vetting" of club buyouts. There needs to be total reformation of the entire structure from top to bottom. I am still waiting for an explanation for how anyone at the FA thought it would be a good and sensible idea to allow some kind of chicken farming company from India with no football experience of any kind to run a century old English top-flight club.

Otherwise, yeah. There is no light at the end of the tunnel.

The FA may of been complicit.. hell even FIFA.. but at the end of the day it was money, agents and agencies imo.. how much do you reckon those who advised the chicken farmers (to buy the club) made from the deal, Christ Anderson even ended up with his son at the club.. that is where the blame lies and for his sins even SAF agreed.. "“I think it’s very difficult these days [to build a club] with the life we’re in now,” he said. “There’s intense pressure on managers.

"You’ve got that issue at Blackburn of an agent involved and deciding the future of the club, Jerome Anderson [of the SEM Group], he couldn’t pick his nose. "It’s baffling and it’s a serious threat to how clubs get run and how they conduct themselves.”"

We see the same rubbish week in week out in every league, players pretty much losing their careers to greedy agents looking for the quick wins. Not much we can do now the damage has been done.

[Paul]

If there is to be a protest when are those advocating it going to begin the organisation? Three home games left. Huddersfield is only a week away so probably not enough time to plan which leaves Bristol City or Reading.

I'll be very surprised if there is any form of protest.

[Gav]

If there is to be a protest when are those advocating it going to begin the organisation? Three home games left. Huddersfield is only a week away so probably not enough time to plan which leaves Bristol City or Reading.

I'll be very surprised if there is any form of protest.

I think most likely the protests will start once the season ticket forms hit the door mats Paul. Thousands are already onboard, many more will join in if Lambert walks.

[Iceman]

look i have no business to talk about protesting, im not there.. However, if Lambert leaves because of the dumb wits of Venkys fecking it up again, then i have always been of the opinion that wait for a televised game, wait 10 mins and walk out of Ewood. The problem is though i see is that not everybody will be united in the walk out.

In all honesty, i dont know what we should do with regards to Venkys. Its clear that they continue to destroy the club, but at some point our fans over there need to take back this club and quick and dispose of these imposters or it will be too late

[oldjamfan1]

look i have no business to talk about protesting, im not there.. However, if Lambert leaves because of the dumb wits of Venkys fecking it up again, then i have always been of the opinion that wait for a televised game, wait 10 mins and walk out of Ewood calmly get out of your seat and walk onto the pitch and sit on that instead. And stay there. Everyone. Getting a live TV game abandoned will attract attention. However there would have to be a very clearly defined objective (not sure how 'Venkys Out' works?). Your last point about 100% participation is a very valid one.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

What exactly are Venkys doing wrong at this present time?

If the answer is not throwing their own money at the club then they're actually not doing anything wrong, and very few owners in football would do any different. Very, very few would do any different at a club like Rovers, where it is impossible to grow the fanbase and therefore extremely unlikely to ever see a return on the investment. Certainly the risk outweighs the reward.

And what's the alternative?

As I've said in a previous post, it took the Walker Trust about 5 years to find a buyer for a PL club with an annual revenue of around £50m. How long is it going to take Venkys to find a buyer for a Championship club with an annual revenue of £5m? Simple answer is they won't, nobody wants to buy Rovers.

So in my opinion this is all rather pointless. The goalposts have changed since the original protests when they took over. We had something important we could preserve then, our invaluable PL status that was responsible for about 90% of our revenue (not that the Allardyce-haters ever seemed to grasp that). Now the horse has bolted and there's nothing at all to be gained from protesting against Venkys. The only halfway valid reason I can think of is that the new owner we'll never get might revert the club management structure back to a more traditional set up (decisions made by chairman, board of directors etc). But does that really matter? Whoever is doing that job at the moment hired Lambert, an absolute coup with his track record and the current state of the club.