[Archived] More Respect And Awareness Needed When Posting

[yoda]

Winding up TJ. I seem to have to explain a lot of posts to you when it's pretty self explanatory.

Lol. Fair enough your opinion. Let's leave it be.

Now we are getting somewhere,

re your remark in the election thread, to many entrenched views based on religious ideals are stopping any settlement.

You can't force religious views on anyone

[imy9]

Now we are getting somewhere,

re your remark in the election thread, to many entrenched views based on religious ideals are stopping any settlement.

You can't force religious views on anyone

With all due respect this is where an understanding of the middle east is essential. This is not religious. This is a political issue. Zionism is at the heart of Israeli policy and will stop any peace process from working. If UK and US push politically then maybe Israel will see sense.

[yoda]

With all due respect this is where an understanding of the middle east is essential. This is not religious. This is a political issue. Zionism is at the heart of Israeli policy and will stop any peace process from working. If UK and US push politically then maybe Israel will see sense.

Why would that make a difference, IS and others want those 3 entities wiped out

[imy9]

Why would that make a difference, IS and others want those 3 entities wiped out

As I have said already the finances that US provides and the sway UK still holds in the area may enable a peace process to happen. Iran is a prime example of US taking a lead and making a breakthrough so it can happen.

IS? Zionism want to wipe the Palestinians off the planet too, there are plenty of nut jobs in the area. Which is why a clear head and a political solution needs to happen. Israel needs to get out of Palestinian areas and stop building illegal settlements. Hamas needs to acknowledge the existence of Israel and stop firing rockets.

I keep saying the middle East is very complicated. Here is an example

http://www.crescent-online.net/2014/09/why-isis-is-against-hamas-sarbaz-roohulla-rezvi-4626-articles.html

IS hate Hamas and want them gone. They are indifferent about Israel. Al Qaeda hate IS. All of this is political not religious.

[yoda]

As I have said already the finances that US provides and the sway UK still holds in the area may enable a peace process to happen. Iran is a prime example of US taking a lead and making a breakthrough so it can happen.

IS? Zionism want to wipe the Palestinians off the planet too, there are plenty of nut jobs in the area. Which is why a clear head and a political solution needs to happen. Israel needs to get out of Palestinian areas and stop building illegal settlements. Hamas needs to acknowledge the existence of Israel and stop firing rockets.

I keep saying the middle East is very complicated. Here is an example

http://www.crescent-online.net/2014/09/why-isis-is-against-hamas-sarbaz-roohulla-rezvi-4626-articles.html

IS hate Hamas and want them gone. They are indifferent about Israel. Al Qaeda hate IS. All of this is political not religious.

That article is littered with references to religion,

Is Shari‘ah not religiously driven

[ABBEY]

What is the I in ISIS stand for ?

[imy9]

That article is littered with references to religion,

Is Shariah not religiously driven

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_aspects_of_Islam

[yoda]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_aspects_of_Islam

Perfect article to show why they will never sort themselves out

[imy9]

Perfect article to show why they will never sort themselves out

Why?

[yoda]

Why?

To many vested interests with trigger happy leaders,

still living with a medieval attitudes

[imy9]

To many vested interests with trigger happy leaders,

still living with a medieval attitudes

The main leader that needs to be sorted out is Old Ben who is occupying land illegally. Kids getting burnt alive like yesterday is common place. 500 kids killed in Gaza last year alone, disgusting. This from a democratic nation.

[yoda]

The main leader that needs to be sorted out is Old Ben who is occupying land illegally. Kids getting burnt alive like yesterday is common place. 500 kids killed in Gaza last year alone, disgusting. This from a democratic nation.

No, you are wrong, they all need sorting out,

Like I said before, with that narrative nothing will change.

[Reedy You're A Star]

Bump.

Threads getting dragged down again by petty personal battles.

After ploughing through the last 3 or 4 pages:

[imy9]

No, you are wrong, they all need sorting out,

Like I said before, with that narrative nothing will change.

I have said they all need sorting out. A number of times. My narrative has been consistent, as I have said the issue is complex and you need an understanding of the area.

[Al]

Imy9 claims everybody has ruined this thread except him. Have a look back and check the number of disruptive posts. Perhaps this should be retitled "The Imy9 thread". Imy9,it may have escaped your notice that this is supposed to be (and was) a Christian country. Perhaps YOU should respect that! Probably too much to ask.

[imy9]

Imy9 claims everybody has ruined this thread except him. Have a look back and check the number of disruptive posts. Perhaps this should be retitled "The Imy9 thread". Imy9,it may have escaped your notice that this is supposed to be (and was) a Christian country. Perhaps YOU should respect that! Probably too much to ask.

Hi Al perhaps read the thread title? It's on topic. I do respect that this was a Christian country, you don't need to shout at me. Is it too much to ask you to be a little impartial and acknowledge it takes two to tango? Or would you like me to recite the national anthem to prove my loyalty to the state?

I'm off on my hols. Hope to see 3 points vs Wolves.

[Al]

Hi Al perhaps read the thread title? It's on topic. I do respect that this was a Christian country, you don't need to shout at me. Is it too much to ask you to be a little impartial and acknowledge it takes two to tango? Or would you like me to recite the national anthem to prove my loyalty to the state?

One to dance is enough when the other prospective partner is a medieval, cruel and completely outdated entity.

[T J Hooker]

Theres been a lot of fairly reasonable debate and discussion on the subject in recent days, then alf returns....

[thenodrog]

Four years ago.

The post was deleted as well as your crude comment about a school back pack I could be wearing and what may be contained in it.

Oddly enough I have no recollection whatsoever about that.

[thenodrog]

Theno.-Having you(and a select few others) on ignore means i can pick and choose when i want to see your posts depending on my mood, today i thought id give you the benefit of doubt(prob best i do that less often though)

I saw Imys post as rhetorical question.

So who wrote this... Dr T J Jeckyl or Mr T J Hyde?

[thenodrog]

With all due respect this is where an understanding of the middle east is essential. This is not religious. This is a political issue. Zionism is at the heart of Israeli policy and will stop any peace process from working. If UK and US push politically then maybe Israel will see sense.

And what exactly would it take to make Hamas and Hezbollah see sense? Oh and you can chuck in Al Qeada, Taliban and IS too.

[yoda]

Hi Al perhaps read the thread title? It's on topic. I do respect that this was a Christian country, you don't need to shout at me. Is it too much to ask you to be a little impartial and acknowledge it takes two to tango? Or would you like me to recite the national anthem to prove my loyalty to the state?

I'm off on my hols. Hope to see 3 points vs Wolves.

And there you have it,

foisted on your own petard

[thenodrog]

IS hate Hamas and want them gone. They are indifferent about Israel. Al Qaeda hate IS. All of this is political not religious.

IS, Hamas, Israel, Al Qaeda. Stick in the Taliban and which would you want to see gone imy? In order of your preference.

Why?

Religion and Politics never mix.

Quote from your link....“We will build this Islamic Emirate on our dead bodies and will implement Shari‘ah in there, so that we will taste the joy of living under Islamic rule once again and we swear by Allah that we will obey His orders and will avoid from those acts that He has commanded us to avoid.”

Thus spoke Abdul-Latif Moussa in Ibn-Taymiyah Masjid in Rafah, South Gaza

So 'Allah's orders' eh? Now (ignoring the contradiction of a pile of dead bodies experiencing the joy of living under islamic rule) unless he traps up with some fresh ones (and I'm not going to hold my breath on this one) what are Allah's orders going to be re: Nuclear weapons? Fracking? Global warming? Industrial pollution? Space exploration? Genetic research? Medical ethics? the ails of the Chines economy? etc etc

[Amo]

Careful, Drog, your Zionism is showing.

[Guest]

I do respect that this was a Christian country, you don't need to shout at me.

It still is, imy9. At least according to our Census, which I'm not sure is entirely accurate and you can draw many assumptions from it. I used to be a practising Christian when I was young, but only because my Mum took us to church etc. In other words, before I could make my own decisions in life. As an adult (well, 14), decided that religion wasn't for me. That's the way the country seems to have been going for decades. I'm surprised that people not affiliated with religion is only 25%. I would've thought more than half to be honest, but I wonder how many of the 59% who are "Christian" go to church?

Anyway, this thread is so off-topic now. Better to move this conversation into the other threads if you can.