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[Mike E]

Hang your head in shame for that one, disgusting.

For middle-class McCanns, read working-class Matthews.

Or actually read up in detail on the McCann case. I don't believe there is any other conclusion than they did it.

[oldjamfan1]

"Catholics are Christians" technically maybe

I would love to hear an explanation as to what you mean by this. Catholics ARE christians, not on a technicality, on a fact. Jesus Christ is their son of God, almost the very definition of what a Christian is......?

[adopted scouser]

For middle-class McCanns, read working-class Matthews.

Or actually read up in detail on the McCann case. I don't believe there is any other conclusion than they did it.

Wherever the blame lies, their child was abducted and probably murdered. A "nice little earner" ?

[T J Hooker]

I would love to hear an explanation as to what you mean by this. Catholics ARE christians, not on a technicality, on a fact. Jesus Christ is their son of God, almost the very definition of what a Christian is......?

You seem like a catholic 😜

[Paul]

How is your Japanese, Paul? Do you know the furore it has created over there? Of course we will look to American stories before the Far East. We can relate much more easily and therefore the press are quicker to report it. That said, the Japanese idiot story was covered. Do you know if the gorilla story made the news over there?

The other telling element is that the idiot father has gone on TV contrite, admitting responsibility and will now face charges. The Western parent, whose lack of responsibility led to the death of a animal - which would have been the same reaction if a lion or other large animal had been killed - has shown no such contrition and whose main concern is about the zoo's safety systems.

Whilst you are 'puzzling' (you are not of course), could you please provide a link to someone, anyone, saying it's acceptable to leave your child in a forest?

The responsibility for a child always rests with their parents/guardians. I'm puzzled that you would think otherwise.

Stuart the media coverage in this country appears to cover both stories equally. What puzzles me is why 500,000 people sign a petition demanding the American parents are prosecuted but similar doesn't happen to the Japanese couple. No one mentioned it in here till I did. Speaks volumes to me.

Remember the Japanese couple deliberately abandoned their child.

Of course all parents are responsible for their kids. It's just you and others on here who seem to have difficulty accepting it sometimes goes wrong. That's life. Stuff happens.

Steve reading Paul's post ,what it won't tell you that it's ok to make Italian and Scottish jokes but don't make a Muslim joke because the racist police will be all over you like a rasher.

Why would my post have any need to raise those points?

[Paul]

There have bee a couple of high profile cases recently of American big game "hunters," a loose description really, slaughtering wild endangered animals.

Not a murmur.

[Amo]

Wherever the blame lies, their child was abducted and probably murdered. A "nice little earner" ?

Really? Because there was no evidence of an abduction.

[Stuart]

Stuart the media coverage in this country appears to cover both stories equally. What puzzles me is why 500,000 people sign a petition demanding the American parents are prosecuted but similar doesn't happen to the Japanese couple. No one mentioned it in here till I did. Speaks volumes to me.

Remember the Japanese couple deliberately abandoned their child.

Of course all parents are responsible for their kids. It's just you and others on here who seem to have difficulty accepting it sometimes goes wrong. That's life. Stuff happens.

No difficulty at all, Paul. Yes, things go wrong, but the parents remain responsible - always. Even if there is somebody else who should be doing something, it is still your responsibility. Particularly if you are the person in charge of the child when something goes wrong.

You seem determined to make an issue out of this but I'm not sure what it is. To comment on any story on here, do we have to comment on equal measure on every other similar or linked story? Because that will get awfully tiring.

[T J Hooker]

There have bee a couple of high profile cases recently of American big game "hunters," a loose description really, slaughtering wild endangered animals.

Not a murmur.

I'm sure you'll find just as many wealthy arrogant British arseholes going on these hunts as you would any other nationality,

Also, If huting in africa(and other places) was more affordable to the regular person Im pretty sure that youd get 1000 more brits going on them every year, Sadly some people just seem to be missing that part of the Brain(or soul) that cares and has empathy for animals(or nature and the environment in general)

Maybe these are the Lizard people in disguise that david icke speaks of.

[oldjamfan1]

You seem like a catholic

Every now and again you make an idiotic comment. This being one of them.

[ABBEY]

Stuart the media coverage in this country appears to cover both stories equally. What puzzles me is why 500,000 people sign a petition demanding the American parents are prosecuted but similar doesn't happen to the Japanese couple. No one mentioned it in here till I did. Speaks volumes to me.

Remember the Japanese couple deliberately abandoned their child.

Of course all parents are responsible for their kids. It's just you and others on here who seem to have difficulty accepting it sometimes goes wrong. That's life. Stuff happens.

Why would my post have any need to raise those points?

Why ? Because you said it's ok to hammer Italians scots etc . But I pointed out you can't say a word against Muslims . If you want to call Italians coward crack on

[jim mk2]

No difficulty at all, Paul. Yes, things go wrong, but the parents remain responsible - always. Even if there is somebody else who should be doing something, it is still your responsibility. Particularly if you are the person in charge of the child when something goes wrong.

You seem determined to make an issue out of this but I'm not sure what it is. To comment on any story on here, do we have to comment on equal measure on every other similar or linked story? Because that will get awfully tiring.

You don't seem to accept that you cannot control children 100 per cent of the time. And you don't seem to accept that it is not desirable to do so either.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

There have bee a couple of high profile cases recently of American big game "hunters," a loose description really, slaughtering wild endangered animals.

Not a murmur.

Its hardly a viable argument to say you can't criticise something on here unless you have already previously criticised every instant of something similar happening throughout the world throughout modern history.

For the record I think tourists hunting animals is completely sick.

[Paul]

Why ? Because you said it's ok to hammer Italians scots etc . But I pointed out you can't say a word against Muslims . If you want to call Italians coward crack on

Oh I see that's your angle. So I explained to Steve, who clearly got the wrong end of the stick, how parts of British humour stereotype others nationally and regionally, example it with a schoolboy joke, and you think I'm saying it's OK to hammer Italians.

Explanation is not endorsement.

[Paul]

You seem determined to make an issue out of this but I'm not sure what it is. To comment on any story on here, do we have to comment on equal measure on every other similar or linked story? Because that will get awfully tiring.

I'm not trying to make an issue. I'm asking a question no one wants to answer. I'll leave it alone.

I simply do not understand why people are so enraged with this American couple and apparently not the Japanese couple.

[perthblue02]

Hang your head in shame for that one, disgusting.

Yes nice little earner might have been a bit strong but...

Sorry must have missed the McCann book being given away free, it was sold at a profit, that profit went into a fund and some of those funds have been used for personal "expenses" when ALL the money should have been used fully in the search from that poor little girl. Some of it has gone on and still is being used trying to shut up anybody who throws doubt on their side of the story which was not what the fund was set up for. Family members have been paid from the fund , it is and was set up as non profit business.

Has a parent of two now grown up children I was and I am still absolutely disgusted that they have not been charged with neglect, and I am absolutely sure that if one of my children had disappeared one of the first things I would not have done was call my mates to start the its not our fault ball rolling and would be helping the police fully with their enquires, not saying no comment to any questions..

Somebody mentioned earlier that it is virtually impossible to keep an eye on your children 100% and that is correct but there is a big difference when you happily contribute to that risk rather than it happening accidently and then try everything possible to deflect attention away from your actions and your share of accountability .

Even in a similar situations as the one in the Mccann story I can quite happily say that my children or those of friends who we went on holiday were never put into a situation of risk like that one . Morale high ground? in this case yes.

[Stuart]

You don't seem to accept that you cannot control children 100 per cent of the time. And you don't seem to accept that it is not desirable to do so either.

Of course you can't. But it is still your responsibility.

Do you have kids, Jim?

[jim mk2]

Of course you can't. But it is still your responsibility.

Not all the time and certainly not in the case of the zoo. The child was able to scramble under a fence into the enclosure - prime responsibility of a zoo is to make sure the public is safe to view the animals and it clearly failed in this case.

[Al]

You seem like a catholic

Catholics are the original Christians whether we like it of not. Your prejudices are showing clearly.

[T J Hooker]

I'm neither and i think all organised religions a are sham, I don't prejudice against anybody that follows any religion though as long as they're not preaching at me, ect.

[Al]

I'm neither and i think all organised religions a are sham, I don't prejudice against anybody that follows any religion though as long as they're not preaching at me, ect.

Strange! You certainly give the impression that you are prejudiced against Catholics.

[T J Hooker]

I think this heat must be getting to your head

[Norbert Rassragr]

Catholics are the original Christians whether we like it of not. Your prejudices are showing clearly.

No they're not. They persecuted the Arians who were contemporaries, and undergone many changes over the years. In the first few hundred or so years there were many varying interpretations of the bible. And what we know now as the Catholic church is basically the Roman empire, but in the spiritual world, not the political world. And the Romans were only interested in 2 things power and status.

[oldjamfan1]

I think this heat must be getting to your head

To be fair TJ I got that impression too, hence my earlier response. However, now you've clarified your stance I am 100% in agreement with you. Each to their own, whether you're a believer or not. Personally I cannot believe that any just God would allow certain things to happen on his or her watch, but that's just my view.

[yoda]

To be fair TJ I got that impression too, hence my earlier response. However, now you've clarified your stance I am 100% in agreement with you. Each to their own, whether you're a believer or not. Personally I cannot believe that any just God would allow certain things to happen on his or her watch, but that's just my view.

Age old problem, if you don't understand something, make something up to give you comfort. Throw a little control and taxes into the equation and bingo very rich religions.