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[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Hidden from the main website news pages by the left-wing BBC, more evidence of their laughably weak charade at political neutrality.

I think a big difference personally Audax is the pace of migration. In previous decades it had been slowish and steady, allowing some time for existing immigrants to integrate at least to some amount before new ones arrived. Know it's just one example but a few years ago at the Blackburn Tesco petrol station I was filling up and in another lane an Asian woman drove right round a car into a just vacated spot and went for the pump. The Asian guy she's pushed in front of got out and gave her an absolute earful about how people queue in this country.

You admit tens of thousands a year and they assimilate successful (or at least successfully enough not to cause regular front page news). You admit a million people into one country in one year and all you get is their country's brought to yours. Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Eritrea, these are deeply troubled countries with severe social problems. The new wave of migrants are predominantly adult males, another difference compared to traditional immigration, and it's known some resorted to violence in terms of rioting etc on their way here (there was that terrible story of Muslims drowning Christians on the same lifeboat).

The "welcome refugees" virtue signallers, Merkel, and others of the similar mindset are all idealists who believed help would be repaid with gratitude, not sexual assault and murder. I'm sorry but they were all being very thick, they invited trouble some of us saw coming a country mile off.

[Steve Moss]

^ Good post.

The Middle East is rife with inbreeding, which does have an adverse impact on judgement, temperament and intelligence. Islam, at least the extreme interpretation, provides a religious and cultural excuse for violence against non-Muslim. The population being imported are largely young males, the most likely subgroup to resort to violence to avenge slights, real or imagined.

We are bringing millions of them into the West each year. The problem with bringing millions in each year from the Middle East is, as SKH says, we're just moving one country to another.

Immigration is good, if the immigrants have a genuine desire to assimilate, are productive, and leave their troubled peers back home. The current system is not working and needs to be overhauled.

[Audax]

https://www.clarionproject.org/news/5702-cases-fgm-reported-england-last-year

Story on the practise of FGM, female genital mutilation, 5702 cases reported in England 2015/16.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36880758

[matt83]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36880758

Another one Jesus Christ this is getting way out of hand. Have I got this right over past few days in Germany on Friday a nutter (don't know his origins although think he may have been born in Germany) shoots people dead at a shopping centre, yesterday a Syrian refugee hacks a women to death with a machete and today another Syrian asylum seeker has blown himself up at a music festival.

With other stories along the way like that business in Cologne Angela Merkel has a lot to answer for over her open door policy.

[yoda]

Maybe Enoch was right all along

[gumboots]

I read the article the other day that said if it doesn't really escalate you are far more likely to be killed in a car accident than by terrorism. Can't remember the stats but it was overwhelmingly more likely. Even if attacks doubled or trebled you were still far more likely to die in an accident.

That's not to say these attacks aren't horrendous and extremely worrying given my family circumstances but we do tend to highlight thesee events and ignore everything else at times like this

[Al]

Nothing wrong with Iranian either, or Muslim. But don't let that affect your prejudices.

There is when it causes terrorism and killings.

[yoda]

I read the article the other day that said if it doesn't really escalate you are far more likely to be killed in a car accident than by terrorism. Can't remember the stats but it was overwhelmingly more likely. Even if attacks doubled or trebled you were still far more likely to die in an accident.

That's not to say these attacks aren't horrendous and extremely worrying given my family circumstances but we do tend to highlight thesee events and ignore everything else at times like this

I don't think it is right to make comparisons with predominatly accidental deaths and premeditated murder

[Al]

Maybe Enoch was right all along

Of course he was but there are still a lot of stubborn people who do not accept it.

^ Good post.

The Middle East is rife with inbreeding, which does have an adverse impact on judgement, temperament and intelligence. Islam, at least the extreme interpretation, provides a religious and cultural excuse for violence against non-Muslim. The population being imported are largely young males, the most likely subgroup to resort to violence to avenge slights, real or imagined.

We are bringing millions of them into the West each year. The problem with bringing millions in each year from the Middle East is, as SKH says, we're just moving one country to another.

Immigration is good, if the immigrants have a genuine desire to assimilate, are productive, and leave their troubled peers back home. The current system is not working and needs to be overhauled.

The bit in bold is the crux of the matter. The Muslim immigrants, certainly in Blackburn, generally show no desire to assimilate. Rather they want to create a new "middle east" in Lancashire.

[JBiz]

Of course he was but there are still a lot of stubborn people who do not accept it.

The bit in bold is the crux of the matter. The Muslim immigrants, certainly in Blackburn, generally show no desire to assimilate. Rather they want to create a new "middle east" in Lancashire.

To be fair, it's not difficult to get a Hollands pie and a pint of Smiths in parts of Spain either.

[yoda]

To be fair, it's not difficult to get a Hollands pie and a pint of Smiths in parts of Spain either.

Just as easy as getting Tapas in Horwich.

Try eating at a Nandos that has been targeted by certain segments of the population

[JBiz]

Just as easy as getting Tapas in Horwich.

Try eating at a Nandos that has been targeted by certain segments of the population

I've been to nandos mate what's the problem?

[Al]

To be fair, it's not difficult to get a Hollands pie and a pint of Smiths in parts of Spain either.

Never seen a Hollands pie in Spain and a pint of Smiths (if you can stand that grotty stuff) is there to attract tourists because they want to encourage tourism. Nothing like mosques in Blackburn!

[K-Hod]

People have a right to practice their religion if that's their bag though. It stands to reason that there will be plenty of Mosques in East Lancs, given the high number of Muslims. Religion isn't for me, I pretty much agree with JBizzle's comments from the other day about it, but if people want to follow that and they aren't hurting anyone then I couldn't care less in all honesty.

My mate (who is white) lives on the same street as a Mosque in Accy, he was buzzing when it was Ramadan, loads of people knocking on the door asking him if he wanted some free Samosas!

[gumboots]

I don't think it is right to make comparisons with predominatly accidental deaths and premeditated murder

Not really making comparisons but just stating the fact. Thats why we have to keep doing normal things and not over react. Getting things into proportion whilst being vigilant is important. My kids are all travelling through paris over the next few weeks and my daughter is travelling from munich station to get to paris in the first place. I could worry myself stupid about it but whats the point. Ill be happier when theyre home again after hols but then i cant let that spoil things

[Al]

People have a right to practice their religion if that's their bag though. It stands to reason that there will be plenty of Mosques in East Lancs, given the high number of Muslims. Religion isn't for me, I pretty much agree with JBizzle's comments from the other day about it, but if people want to follow that and they aren't hurting anyone then I couldn't care less in all honesty.

My mate (who is white) lives on the same street as a Mosque in Accy, he was buzzing when it was Ramadan, loads of people knocking on the door asking him if he wanted some free Samosas!

Steve Moss has it right. Immigrants need to show a desire to assimilate which is exactly what the Blackburn Muslims do NOT do. Maybe the British do not assimilate that well in Spain but as fellow Christians it doesn't appear to cause a problem.

[yoda]

I've been to nandos mate what's the problem?

http://www.thelancasterandmorecambecitizen.co.uk/news/12975221.Muslim_bosses_spark_halal_row_over_new_Blackburn_Nando_s_restaurant/?ref=mr&lp=16

[JBiz]

http://www.thelancasterandmorecambecitizen.co.uk/news/12975221.Muslim_bosses_spark_halal_row_over_new_Blackburn_Nando_s_restaurant/?ref=mr&lp=16

What's wrong with that? That have a belief or culture (one that I personally think is barbaric) and they want to stick to it, ie if nandos wants the custom it will have to go that way.

Like I said I think it's barbaric, but I'm no vegan so it's a bit rich me saying anything when I eat meat. Killing of animals for food is bad enough as it is.

I've no problem with a religious group questioning them though, how does it effect me?

[yoda]

What's wrong with that? That have a belief or culture (one that I personally think is barbaric) and they want to stick to it, ie if nandos wants the custom it will have to go that way.

Like I said I think it's barbaric, but I'm no vegan so it's a bit rich me saying anything when I eat meat. Killing of animals for food is bad enough as it is.

I've no problem with a religious group questioning them though, how does it effect me?

Not so thin end of the wedge in imposing an alien culture on a secular society.

[ultrablue]

Steve Moss has it right. Immigrants need to show a desire to assimilate which is exactly what the Blackburn Muslims do NOT do. Maybe the British do not assimilate that well in Spain but as fellow Christians it doesn't appear to cause a problem.

Tell me if Im wrong Al but it appears that you think Muslims have to give up their faith in order to assimilate into British society. Is the term British-Muslim an oxymoron in your mind?

[yoda]

Tell me if Im wrong Al but it appears that you think Muslims have to give up their faith in order to assimilate into British society. Is the term British-Muslim an oxymoron in your mind?

Not speaking for Al but at a minimum they should abide by the laws of the country they inhabit and not pursue Sharia law. They should also stop playing the race card and playing the victim so often when one of their customs conflict with the norms of the country they inhabit. Tolerance has to be a two way process.

[JBiz]

Not so thin end of the wedge in imposing an alien culture on a secular society.

So nandos making a marketing decision to improve their customer base is having alien culture imposed on us? You do realise Nandos is Portuguese...

Not speaking for Al but at a minimum they should abide by the laws of the country they inhabit and not pursue Sharia law. They should also stop playing the race card and playing the victim so often when one of their customs conflict with the norms of the country they inhabit. Tolerance has to be a two way process.

Tolerance is certainly a two way process, but the irony of saying that after using the word "they" in a context of suggesting all Muslims are pursuing Sharia law is just unbelievable

[yoda]

So nandos making a marketing decision to improve their customer base is having alien culture imposed on us? You do realise Nandos is Portuguese...

Tolerance is certainly a two way process, but the irony of saying that after using the word "they" in a context of suggesting all Muslims are pursuing Sharia law is just unbelievable

I did not say all so stop putting words in my mouth.

Of course I know Nandos is Portuguese food, that is not the point so stop trying to cloud the issue. Do you see anyone protesting in an intimidating way if they want non Halal meat ?

[K-Hod]

Nando's is a South African firm Joe, FYI. (Though granted, it is Portuguese cuisine).