Backroom Mike E Posted September 20, 2016 Backroom Posted September 20, 2016 Percentage-wise is why it is a racism problem. If the ratio of unarmed black or white men was similar to the population, the issue is a simple change in police procedure. As the percentage of black people is higher, it is a racism issue.
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Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted September 20, 2016 Moderation Lead Posted September 20, 2016 It makes you wonder, what the hell they are doing/saying behind closed doors when some of the events reported are happening......
Backroom Mike E Posted September 20, 2016 Backroom Posted September 20, 2016 Starting to think America deserves Trump. Trouble is, the rest of the world doesn't.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted September 20, 2016 Moderation Lead Posted September 20, 2016 The Steve Kean drink-driving defence is spreading....-http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14753108._My_friend_spiked_my_lager_with_vodka____woman_argues_case_against_drink_drive_ban/
Steve Moss Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 Percentage-wise is why it is a racism problem. If the ratio of unarmed black or white men was similar to the population, the issue is a simple change in police procedure. As the percentage of black people is higher, it is a racism issue. This is not actually the complete picture. 50% of police shootings are white, 26% black and the balance Hispanic/other. Factor in the crime rate by race, and the 26% of black shootings is statistically appropriate (though factually unfortunate). White officers are less likely to shoot a black suspect, than are black officers. For these and other interesting statistics, feel free to read: http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler# That said: 1. I support law enforcement. 2. But police are being militarized and we need to reverse that progress. I'd be perfectly happy if they all carried revolvers with the heavy equipment reserved for SWAT. We should also remove financial incentives to the police seizing property. 3. The situation in some parts of the world (no go areas, the militarization of drug cartels, etc) make it difficult for the police to demilitarize. 4. Police who commit murder should be treated like anyone else. 5. All of the above being said, Black Lives Matters is a crock. All Lives Matter, including Blue Lives, Black Lives, Brown Lives, etc.
Husky Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 I always find 'documentaries' like this short BBC one on "guns in the USA" help to put shootings into perspective: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37292306
Backroom Mike E Posted September 20, 2016 Backroom Posted September 20, 2016 This is not actually the complete picture. 50% of police shootings are white, 26% black and the balance Hispanic/other. Factor in the crime rate by race, and the 26% of black shootings is statistically appropriate (though factually unfortunate). White officers are less likely to shoot a black suspect, than are black officers. For these and other interesting statistics, feel free to read: http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler# That said: 1. I support law enforcement. 2. But police are being militarized and we need to reverse that progress. I'd be perfectly happy if they all carried revolvers with the heavy equipment reserved for SWAT. We should also remove financial incentives to the police seizing property. 3. The situation in some parts of the world (no go areas, the militarization of drug cartels, etc) make it difficult for the police to demilitarize. 4. Police who commit murder should be treated like anyone else. 5. All of the above being said, Black Lives Matters is a crock. All Lives Matter, including Blue Lives, Black Lives, Brown Lives, etc. I can get behind all those as a compromise between our views
Baz Posted September 20, 2016 Posted September 20, 2016 This is not actually the complete picture. 50% of police shootings are white, 26% black and the balance Hispanic/other. Factor in the crime rate by race, and the 26% of black shootings is statistically appropriate (though factually unfortunate). White officers are less likely to shoot a black suspect, than are black officers. For these and other interesting statistics, feel free to read: http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler# That said: 1. I support law enforcement. 2. But police are being militarized and we need to reverse that progress. I'd be perfectly happy if they all carried revolvers with the heavy equipment reserved for SWAT. We should also remove financial incentives to the police seizing property. 3. The situation in some parts of the world (no go areas, the militarization of drug cartels, etc) make it difficult for the police to demilitarize. 4. Police who commit murder should be treated like anyone else. 5. All of the above being said, Black Lives Matters is a crock. All Lives Matter, including Blue Lives, Black Lives, Brown Lives, etc. It all really comes back down to the gun law debate, less guns in general circulation IMO means less nervous/ trigger happy cops, in the UK cops are far less likely to draw a gun on someone who has robbed a supermarket, as the chances that person has a gun are much less. I don't disagree with any of your other points, and I think that point 4 in particular would help settle the outrage over some of the pretty obvious cover-ups seen in the past few years.
Baz Posted September 24, 2016 Posted September 24, 2016 So Corbyn re-elected with 60% of the vote, a few percentage points up from last year. His first act - asks members to join in a day of protest against the Grammar school proposal.
Amo Posted September 25, 2016 Posted September 25, 2016 Five killed by a gunman in a Washington mall. Gunman was originally reported as Hispanic, turns out he's actually Turkish. No motive known.
Steve Moss Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 Five killed by a gunman in a Washington mall. Gunman was originally reported as Hispanic, turns out he's actually Turkish. No motive known. Correct. He was a Turkish immigrant. Motive still unknown? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/person-custody-washington-mall-shooting-killed-5-n653931 A cartoonist is killed in Jordan for insulting Islam. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/world/middleeast/nahed-hattar-jordanian-writer-killed.html?_r=1 Why do we import these people?
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted September 26, 2016 Moderation Lead Posted September 26, 2016 The USA isn't an easy country to get into either! Though it's easy to access firearms once you are in........
Steve Moss Posted September 26, 2016 Posted September 26, 2016 While the mall shooter's motives aren't known, allegedly, his blog did appear to support ISIS. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/26/mall-shooting-suspect-had-blog-with-picture-isis-leader.html
Backroom Tom Posted September 26, 2016 Backroom Posted September 26, 2016 Another wacko in America goes on a shooting spree http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/26/us/houston-shooting/index.html Luckily only he was killed
ABBEY Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 12,000 asylum seekers gone missing .Such wonderful honest people.
Audax Posted September 28, 2016 Posted September 28, 2016 Another wacko in America goes on a shooting spree http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/26/us/houston-shooting/index.html Luckily only he was killed If one reads up on this, the shooter was a troubled "unsuccessful"(?) lawyer, DeSai is his name, a Indian type of name and he was wearing a uniform with Nazi emblems. One can look it all up.
MarkBRFC71 Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 801 people killed by cops in the US this year. And a whole swathe of Americans don't think they have a gun crisis https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database
Husky Posted September 29, 2016 Posted September 29, 2016 Obama has always been 'just one letter away'. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/715977/al-nusra-us-arming-jihadists-syria Worst President EVER!
ultrablue Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 Obama has always been 'just one letter away'. http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/715977/al-nusra-us-arming-jihadists-syria Worst President EVER! An Al-Nusra millitant isn't exactly the most credible source. But if true, the Obama admin wouldn't be the first to do something like this. I'm pretty sure it's an impeachable offence for a US President NOT to indirectly arm and fund shady dissidents fighting an unfriendly dictator.
Husky Posted September 30, 2016 Posted September 30, 2016 12,000 asylum seekers gone missing .Such wonderful honest people. I do hope they aren't those religious types. Or there's no more Beano for us. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/26/world/middleeast/nahed-hattar-jordanian-writer-killed.html?_r=0
joey_big_nose Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 With the repairs to the Houses of Parliament costing a minimum of £7bn, does anyone else feel it's a great opportunity to move them out of central London? They could be re-located to a somewhere more geographically central, at a much lower cost, and somewhere where the housing costs for the public paying their mortgages would be significantly lower. I'm sure the buildings themselves would be very attractive for property developers. The Scottish Parliament building cost £414m to give a comparison. I have to say moving parliament and ministries out of London looks like extremely good sense to me.London is in a full blown crisis at the moment. Too few houses, too many people, cost of living way too high for those not on £50k+. Drastic times call for drastic measures. Moving parliament to Manchester, Birmingham or Leeds would be transformational for London and the region it relocates to.
Norbert Rassragr Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 I'd agree, though part of me appreciates the great gothic masterpiece that is the Parliament building. The new building would be some really tedious glass and steel thing that would look like 30,000 other buildings.
Husky Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 An Al-Nusra millitant isn't exactly the most credible source. I know. But even more ludicrous is that the mainstream media constantly pass off reports on Syria from a pseudo terrorist based on a council estate in Coventry as facts.
Norbert Rassragr Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 I've never been contacted by the press Husky.
Backroom Mike E Posted October 4, 2016 Backroom Posted October 4, 2016 I'd agree, though part of me appreciates the great gothic masterpiece that is the Parliament building. The new building would be some really tedious glass and steel thing that would look like 30,000 other buildings. New building? They should just use regular office space instead of feeling like they're above the rest of us.
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