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[Baz]

If you have the stomach for it, read up on Unit 731.

Unfortunately, most of the scientists involved got pardoned as the Americans wanted the research.

Just read the entry on Wikipedia. Evil, evil people.

[yoda]

Grow the @#/? up and accept that sometimes the cap fits.

(I'll take my ban now mods please)

You need it for that, ABBEY is no racist

[Dreyski]

Okay captain snide, but his views on this thread suggest otherwise.

[yoda]

I take it you have not read the posting guidlines

[Dreyski]

Once, a long time ago. I don't recall the rule "thou shalt not call a spade a spade" though.

[yoda]

Once, a long time ago. I don't recall the rule "thou shalt not call a spade a spade" though.

Exactly what ABBEY has been doing, upsetting your cosy world is he ?

Some one recently got in big trouble for saying a bridge had a slope on it, can't see how you can get away with spade to be honest

[Dreyski]

Ah, the facade drops.

If you feel so strongly about it, report my post.

As for your last comment, I'll only be in real trouble if I assault you in a North Yorkshire hotel over a lack of hot meat

[Audax]

One thing about demographics, I think, okay, if for example, they say similar things about Russia (Chechnya and other similar areas); that the Muslim population may overcome the Russian ethnic population. Alright, just for the sake of argument then, why now? If these demographics were in the past, it seems like it could have already happened. Something like that.

Having said that, demographic shifts do occur nonetheless.

[Steve Moss]

Abbey is no racist. He was (as I read it) not complaining about anyone's skin color. He did complain about certain behaviors and belief systems, which are contrary to Western values. There is nothing "racist" in complaining about behaviors and belief systems. If there were, then 90% of this board would be "racist" when complaining about Americans and Republicans.

Abbey protesting the importation of people who think gays should be killed, etc., is common sense. Which is why immigrants should be screened. It doesn't matter if they are radical Muslim, crusading Christians, Nazis, or headhunting cannibals, immigrants who condone violence and demand conformity to their culture instead of conforming to Western values, should not be allowed.

[cmb211087]

One thing that did worry me about all this is yesterday our government admitted that these 'children' could enter our school system.

I'm sorry but that is just asking for trouble, going off the pictures, where in one picture a boy does look around 14 whilst the other four look in their twenties and 30s.

They need to quickly find a reliable way to get their ages. I don't agree with the dental checks but something needs to be done as it clear a lot of these are older than what they have said they are.

[ABBEY]

1. I never mentioned skin (ultra did)

2. I was accused of being racist and got told I read the sun ! Another lie .

3. Jzz denies what happened in Germany and said media was lying

4. Someone asked if I too would be happy for my daughter to date a "child" refugee , I said no and gave reasons just like I wouldn't want her to date 25-35 year old ( ( whatever date or colour)

5. I'm painted as the bad guy yet a real life professional teacher calls his non Muslim pupils scum ... I'm so glad mine don't go there .

[yoda]

Ah, the facade drops.

If you feel so strongly about it, report my post.

As for your last comment, I'll only be in real trouble if I assault you in a North Yorkshire hotel over a lack of hot meat

Which facade ?

[adopted scouser]

Does anyone remember this? Back when little Blackburn was the shining light of multiculturalism and Muslim integration (at least according to those that live in the Countryside).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZuzRSYSsqo

I hadn't heard the word 'community' so much until I heard Asians being interviewed. How are we communal with young women wearing that ridiculous head bag for instance ?

[Husky]

I hadn't heard the word 'community' so much until I heard Asians being interviewed. How are we communal with young women wearing that ridiculous head bag for instance ?

Also it's 'against the rules' for a Muslim to be seen walking with an obvious non-Muslim.

Incidently in 'pt 3' where it talks about 'white flight' and pub closures (with the interview with the landlady of the Dog Inn ) . For nostalgia purposes In September I decided to walk the 'Revidge run' and have a drink in one of the pubs. But shockingly EVERY SINGLE PUB on that stretch had closed down (including The Dog Inn - largely due to the demographics of the area - you can't have a local pub if you don't have 'local people').. . and I even walked all the way to the bottom (ended up in the Knowles Arms as that was the only place open from the starting point - what used to be The Woodlands).

It does beg the question; Where the hell are the 'whites' flighting to?

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

It does beg the question; Where the hell are the 'whites' flighting to?

I think the South Ribble/Chorley area is a popular destination just from my own friends.

[Hanks]

I think the South Ribble/Chorley area is a popular destination just from my own friends.

The Ribble Valley has seen a lot of development in the last 20 years and much more is in the pipeline.

[JBiz]

Also it's 'against the rules' for a Muslim to be seen walking with an obvious non-Muslim.

Incidently in 'pt 3' where it talks about 'white flight' and pub closures (with the interview with the landlady of the Dog Inn ) . For nostalgia purposes In September I decided to walk the 'Revidge run' and have a drink in one of the pubs. But shockingly EVERY SINGLE PUB on that stretch had closed down (including The Dog Inn - largely due to the demographics of the area - you can't have a local pub if you don't have 'local people').. . and I even walked all the way to the bottom (ended up in the Knowles Arms as that was the only place open from the starting point - what used to be The Woodlands).

It does beg the question; Where the hell are the 'whites' flighting to?

1. Who's rules? Which part of Islam or haddith? Is that by definition ALL Muslims? (As that's the way it's put across). I don't think anyone is oblivious to some extreme versions of the faith as that's all we hear in the news these days, but the first part is not something I've ever heard from day to day, from my education or work experiences with any Muslims.

2. Whilst demographics certainly do impact pub trade - let's not forget that we had less social opportunities, less cheap and easy travel and a cheaper pint 30+ years ago - it's impossible to think that the Preston old road etc pub runs would remain the same when taking that into account.

Town centres are quiet for a multitude of reasons, from late licenses, 5 quid drinks, atmosphere, smoking ban etc - the demographic is just a part of it.

[yoda]

The change in opening times killed the pubs, pure and simple,

the after effects are what we are seeing

[JBiz]

The change in opening times killed the pubs, pure and simple,

the after effects are what we are seeing

Not to mention council rates and superstores selling 50 cans for 20 quid!

[yoda]

Not to mention council rates and superstores selling 50 cans for 20 quid!

Business rates have always been a bone of contention, supermarkets and off licencees have also always sold alcohol much cheaper than the pubs, the guy who started WIBIS made a killing way back.

[Amo]

Pete Burns: Dead or Alive

[adopted scouser]

Pete Burns: Dead or Alive

RIP(vc)

[Husky]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3863392/Foster-mother-discovers-12-year-old-Afghan-refugee-orphan-cared-21-year-old-jihadi.html

Is Lily Allen going to take a 'Jihadi man' into her house. Answers on a postcard

But in all seriousness - why does nobody ever ask the burning question; why are all the modern day 'migrants' men?

The same at Calais - those well-dressed and well-fed 'poor migrants' jumping into trucks like Olympic athletes - all men.

Fleeing war and conflict is the biggest lie ever as there aren't any wars in those safe European countries of passage.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

But in all seriousness - why does nobody ever ask the burning question; why are all the modern day 'migrants' men?

there aren't any wars in those safe European countries of passage.

To be honest, those were the starter questions many people were asking when migration jumped up a notch a couple of years ago.

They repeatedly didn't get answered and they won't get answered in the future. The common methods of response are ignore the question, change the subject, call the person asking it racist. So over the years people have given up asking them and moved on to other approaches.

To answer those questions honestly would be to admit that, while there are elements of both, most of the migration is economic and not conflict driven. Therefore it will be long-term, not short-term, and will happen regardless of what conflicts are going on in the world or how ours or anyone else's foreign policy affects them.

In my opinion it's a phenomenon that's here to stay now and will continue and grow for hundreds of years. We all got taught at school how we are part of the lucky 10% who retain 90% of the world's wealth. Well the unlucky 90% now have the means to just come here. And the 90% are, by definition, vast in number and due to high birth rates growing ever vaster. Migration into Europe will be an unstoppable tsunami (if it isn't already) for centuries until it's massively overpopulated and it's HDI is little better than the countries people are migrating from.

That's why I wanted out, despite approving of the ideal originally behind the EU. I'm not naieve enough to think 20 miles of water, and now the ability to enact a stricter border policy, will stop the same thing happening to us but at least it'll delay it.

[Amo]

These refugees economic migrants are already in a safe, Western, democratic country. Why the desperation to come to the UK?