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Hardly a valid comparison and if I might venture, a cheap shot at the same time. The Nazis inexplicably were hell bent on annihilating the jews, a race that were clean living, respectable and reverent, with family values. Their existence caused no threat to the rule of law, no mysogyny and low levels of crime or anti social behaviour; and for the record the German public had very little idea of what was happening in the camps.

This lot by comparison are a real threat. Do gooders should wake up. This wave of migrants needs to be refused entry into the UK, and in doing so reducing the chance of Islamic terrorists getting under the wire then disappearing into major conurbations like Birmingham and London. If they claim to be families fleeing terror why are the majority fit young men who seem to have left the family behind ?

Don't take my word for it, look at Germany, Hungary, Scandinavia. Hundreds of sexual attacks on women in Cologne, Dusseldorf, Dortmund and Bielefeld to name a few.

But hey, I'm full of 'hatred'. Damn right I am.

Beautiful. An explanation that amounts to "if they gassed the muslims today it would be more acceptable than nazis gassing the Jews". Not a great argument it has to be said.
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Beautiful. An explanation that amounts to "if they gassed the muslims today it would be more acceptable than nazis gassing the Jews". Not a great argument it has to be said.

Who suggesting gassing anyone ? Not a great retort it has to be said.

Grow up.

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Beautiful. An explanation that amounts to "if they gassed the muslims today it would be more acceptable than nazis gassing the Jews". Not a great argument it has to be said.

Pitiful reply,

AS never suggested anything of the kind

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does anybody know why the air ambulance helicopter landed on the field behind the manxman today? I was out walking the dog and it landed about 100 meters from me they where there for a while and half the neighbourhood was out nosying, there was talk of riot police entering an house also, i couldnt be bothered sticking around all day to see exactly what was happening though but curiosity is getting the better of me now?

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does anybody know why the air ambulance helicopter landed on the field behind the manxman today? I was out walking the dog and it landed about 100 meters from me they where there for a while and half the neighbourhood was out nosying, there was talk of riot police entering an house also, i couldnt be bothered sticking around all day to see exactly what was happening though but curiosity is getting the better of me now?

Telephone the telewag

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The Nazis inexplicably were hell bent on annihilating the jews, a race that were clean living, respectable and reverent, with family values. Their existence caused no threat to the rule of law, no mysogyny and low levels of crime or anti social behaviour; and for the record the German public had very little idea of what was happening in the camps.

This lot by comparison are a real threat

Im not trying to twist words. The response describes gassing the jews as inexplicable on the grounds that they are "clean living", "family values" etc, and then draws the distinction between german Jews and syrian refugeees, who do not - in AESF's opinion - posess these values and are "more of a threat". The clear inference is if Jews were less "clean living" (like today's refugees in his opinion) it would be more explicable that they were gassed?

That is the simple logic of what AESF has written.

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No group has claimed responsibility for the attack, but government sources are casting suspicion on the outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35799998

I keep up with the news though I don't know what is going on in that conflict, there are often stories that Turkey hits a bunch of Kurdish rebels; the Kurdish rebels in general in the past never targeted civilians as their official policy; so this would signify a change.

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this is what the chopper was for that i mentioned earlier, seems a bit over the top if it is just a broken leg, Blackburn royal is only a few of minutes away surely they could have dealt with the emergancy and then sent the boy to the childrens hospital in an ambulance once he was stable.

http://m.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14341899.Three_year_old_boy_airlifted_to_hospital_after_being_hit_by_car_in_Blackburn/

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Whats odd is that pilmour rd is about 3 streets(prob about 1km) away from wher the copter landed, the time it would have taken for the helicopter to arrive, get the kid to the helicopter and then off to the childrens hospital would have been hardly no different than if theyd have just put him in an ambulance and drove him to Manchester with the sirens on

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this is what the chopper was for that i mentioned earlier, seems a bit over the top if it is just a broken leg, Blackburn royal is only a few of minutes away surely they could have dealt with the emergancy and then sent the boy to the childrens hospital in an ambulance once he was stable.

http://m.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/14341899.Three_year_old_boy_airlifted_to_hospital_after_being_hit_by_car_in_Blackburn/

They do say his condition is 'serious' though, so may be a bit more than a standard broken leg?

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yea i agree i saw that, its just the usual pish poor telegraph writing, one sentence says just a broken leg then further down it says his condition is serious, i dont know why the lt bother any more they are pathetic.

Also that area of highercroft/longshaw is full of boy racing knob heads, if the driver in this case is even slightly to blame they should set an example and throw the book at him/her hard.

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I see Mr Osborne has once again downgraded his forecasts.

He's now missing every target he set himself less than a year ago, and most of the ones he set himself in November. His last bastion of ending the term with a budget surplus, is rated at 50:50 by the government friendly OBR.

No matter, lets reduce income tax for the highest rates, reduce corporation tax so business owners keep more of their profits, and take some off disabled people, then try and get the media to focus on a sugar tax we didn't need 6 weeks ago.

And still nothing of substance from Labour.

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I see Mr Osborne has once again downgraded his forecasts.

He's now missing every target he set himself less than a year ago, and most of the ones he set himself in November. His last bastion of ending the term with a budget surplus, is rated at 50:50 by the government friendly OBR.

No matter, lets reduce income tax for the highest rates, reduce corporation tax so business owners keep more of their profits, and take some off disabled people, then try and get the media to focus on a sugar tax we didn't need 6 weeks ago.

And still nothing of substance from Labour.

When you've @#/? off IDS you must know you've got it wrong.

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A nation's commitment to the least advantaged should include the provision of a generous safety net but it should also include incentive structures and practical assistance programmes to help them live independently of the state. Together, we've made enormous strides towards building a system of social security that gets the balance right between state-help and self-help.

Throughout these years, because of the perilous public finances we inherited from the last Labour administration, difficult cuts have been necessary. I have found some of these cuts easier to justify than others but aware of the economic situation and determined to be a team player I have accepted their necessity.

You are aware that I believe the cuts would have been even fairer to younger families and people of working age if we had been willing to reduce some of the benefits given to better-off pensioners but I have attempted to work within the constraints that you and the Chancellor set.

I have for some time and rather reluctantly come to believe that the latest changes to benefits to the disabled and the context in which they've been made are a compromise too far. While they are defensible in narrow terms, given the continuing deficit, they are not defensible in the way they were placed within a Budget that benefits higher earning taxpayers. They should have instead been part of a wider process to engage others in finding the best way to better focus resources on those most in need.

I am unable to watch passively whilst certain policies are enacted in order to meet the fiscal self-imposed restraints that I believe are more and more perceived as distinctly political rather than in the national economic interest. Too often my team and I have been pressured in the immediate run up to a budget or fiscal event to deliver yet more reductions to the working age benefit bill. There has been too much emphasis on money saving exercises and not enough awareness from the Treasury, in particular, that the government's vision of a new welfare-to-work system could not be repeatedly salami-sliced.

It is therefore with enormous regret that I have decided to resign. You should be very proud of what this government has done on deficit reduction, corporate competitiveness, education reforms and devolution of power. I hope as the government goes forward you can look again, however, at the balance of the cuts you have insisted upon and wonder if enough has been done to ensure "we are all in this together".

That is some savage wording for Osborne and Cameron by one of their most trusted colleagues.

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He's not gone because of the Welfare reforms (which he agreed to), it's down to Europe. He's been moaning about the 'fear campaigning' the remain campaign has been doing so far and yet he has come out with some ludicrous statements about the security of this country if we stay in Europe. The left will be driven by their own agenda and ignore the Europe factor.

If remains win he would have gone anyway in a reshuffle, there was no way Cameron could have kept him in position.

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I never thought I'd agree with IDS but tonight he gets my applause. Osborne is a very nasty piece of work.

It's disturbing to me that this Tory governments (with a majority of less than 10 MPs) only effective opposition appears to be the House of Lords, and themselves.

The Labour Party leadership should be ashamed of themselves.

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