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[Tom]

They give the water away towards the end the staff tell them to take it , happens every year.

[Stuart]

They give the water away towards the end the staff tell them to take it , happens every year.

Why does everybody go crazy when there is free stuff available? Not content with getting some bottles of free water they are filling every bag they can with crates of the stuff. I hope they were planning on handing it out to homeless people.

[Tom]

Yeah it's daft, same with the idiots on Black Friday stampeding for cheap crap because it's a bit cheaper than it was even if they don't need it.

[Paul]

Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. It's amphibius and not a spelling mistske!!!!

[Biddy]

mistske!!!!

lol

Sorry, made me smile.

[Al]

Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. It's amphibius and not a spelling mistske!!!!

Which is why spellcheck on here corrects it and if you change it back it underlines it in red.

[yoda]

I just thought he was a fibber, i.e. fibious

[K-Hod]

It's really sad to see what has happened with BHS in terms of the staff and their pensions being implicated (business-wise I think comparisons with Woolworths are totally valid, as they didn't specialise).http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36134165

There have been all sorts of accusations levelled at former owner Sir Philip Green over this, I'm not going to make a judgment at this point as I've not seen nearly enough information about it, but it's always sad to see people lose their jobs, especially when there appears to be a giant shortfall where their pensions are concerned, which he may be forced to contribute to (at this point he is believed to have offered £80 Million of the £591 Million shortfall)....

[Al]

It's really sad to see what has happened with BHS in terms of the staff and their pensions being implicated (business-wise I think comparisons with Woolworths are totally valid, as they didn't specialise).http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36134165

There have been all sorts of accusations levelled at former owner Sir Philip Green over this, I'm not going to make a judgment at this point as I've not seen nearly enough information about it, but it's always sad to see people lose their jobs, especially when there appears to be a giant shortfall where their pensions are concerned, which he may be forced to contribute to (at this point he is believed to have offered £80 Million of the £591 Million shortfall)....

Pensions are so important that there should be some form of finance to make up the deficit. The EU should be on to this if they are worth being a part of.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Nice to see the BBC reporting on the likes of this, Tata and Austin Reed. Bit of a deviation from their usual attitude that only public sector employment woes matter. And might dispel the common opinion somewhat that the public sector is constantly hard done to whilst everyone else is living it up on bankers wages.

The junior doctors don't like their pay and conditions. The BHS staff are gonna lose their jobs and pensions, which were an absolute pittance of a doctor's pension to begin with.

Know its not a competition but the doctors need to get real and acknowledge that its an increasingly tough economic climate and everyone (except the top 1%) is being squeezed.

[JAL]

It's really sad to see what has happened with BHS in terms of the staff and their pensions being implicated (business-wise I think comparisons with Woolworths are totally valid, as they didn't specialise).http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36134165

There have been all sorts of accusations levelled at former owner Sir Philip Green over this, I'm not going to make a judgment at this point as I've not seen nearly enough information about it, but it's always sad to see people lose their jobs, especially when there appears to be a giant shortfall where their pensions are concerned, which he may be forced to contribute to (at this point he is believed to have offered £80 Million of the £591 Million shortfall)....

It doesn't look good when the Times claims he took out over £400m legally through dividends and he's just received a brand new £100 million yacht yet did very little to fill the huge void in the pension fund.

Would a five year prison sentance be too much for Green if that's his real name.

[K-Hod]

Nice to see the BBC reporting on the likes of this, Tata and Austin Reed. Bit of a deviation from their usual attitude that only public sector employment woes matter. And might dispel the common opinion somewhat that the public sector is constantly hard done to whilst everyone else is living it up on bankers wages.

The junior doctors don't like their pay and conditions. The BHS staff are gonna lose their jobs and pensions, which were an absolute pittance of a doctor's pension to begin with.

Know its not a competition but the doctors need to get real and acknowledge that its an increasingly tough economic climate and everyone (except the top 1%) is being squeezed.

I strongly disagree with this. Doctors have never taken strike action before, which should be an indicator of just how bad what Jeremy Hunt is proposing, is. Further reinforcing my belief that he is trying to make the NHS look rubbish so he can justify selling it off. He needs to admit he's made a massive mistake. (Granted, he won't of course as he's a goon). If we lose Doctors seeking better conditions to the Private Sector, or abroad this will mean we have more strain on the NHS just when it doesn't need it. We will need to get Doctors from abroad, which obviously means more immigration. All because our health secretary is an incompetent, stubborn idiot.

[jim mk2]

Nice to see the BBC reporting on the likes of this, Tata and Austin Reed. Bit of a deviation from their usual attitude that only public sector employment woes matter. And might dispel the common opinion somewhat that the public sector is constantly hard done to whilst everyone else is living it up on bankers wages.

The junior doctors don't like their pay and conditions. The BHS staff are gonna lose their jobs and pensions, which were an absolute pittance of a doctor's pension to begin with.

Know its not a competition but the doctors need to get real and acknowledge that its an increasingly tough economic climate and everyone (except the top 1%) is being squeezed.

The BBC reports on all industrial matters - perhaps you didn't see the other stories because of your inbuilt bias.

The common opinion of the public sector is that it's being cut to the bone to pay for the excesses of the private sector - but don't let that worry your inbuilt bias.

Doctors go through a training of 5 - 10 years, are highly skilled professionals and save people's lives. Hardly comparable with shop workers - much as I feel sorry for BHS employees who have been royally screwed by Philip Green's wife - another example of private sector greed and excess.

Public opinion is behind the doctors - perhaps you need to get real.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Pensions are so important that there should be some form of finance to make up the deficit. The EU should be on to this if they are worth being a part of.

One or two longish jail sentences being handed out to the people responsible would work better. If the Government or the EU is constantly being expected to pick up the tab what's going to change ?

The " Pension Protection fund " is " now seen as a dumping ground for tycoons shaking off their liabilities ".

It's ten years old and so far it's had to bail out 800 schemes covering 220,000 members costing £1.8 billion of your money and my money.

A bit of jail time for the culprits is long overdue.

[jim mk2]

Good post. And as far as I know not one single banker has gone to jail over the 2008 financial crash.

But they are still picking up their bonuses.

[JBiz]

I strongly disagree with this. Doctors have never taken strike action before, which should be an indicator of just how bad what Jeremy Hunt is proposing, is. Further reinforcing my belief that he is trying to make the NHS look rubbish so he can justify selling it off. He needs to admit he's made a massive mistake

Exactly.

Too add to this, the contracts and built in services that require staff will be sold off to "friends" at small percentage of their initial cost or eventual worth. To cut a long story short, we will be eventually be paying more for something we have less control over.

[Al]

One or two longish jail sentences being handed out to the people responsible would work better. If the Government or the EU is constantly being expected to pick up the tab what's going to change ?

The " Pension Protection fund " is " now seen as a dumping ground for tycoons shaking off their liabilities ".

It's ten years old and so far it's had to bail out 800 schemes covering 220,000 members costing £1.8 billion of your money and my money.

A bit of jail time for the culprits is long overdue.

I would agree with that. Pension schemes should always be fully funded but having said that it is not the members fault and public assistance is necessary. The members have made contributions out of their hard earned money and the company contributions are a part of their remuneration. If the payments were made by the company into the scheme every payday this situation would not arise.

[T J Hooker]

Has anybody watched 'the big short' pretty much shows how the stocbrokers, bankers ect. Not only got away with bringing the Western worlds finance to its knees but some even saw it coming well in advance and took total advantage of it

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

I strongly disagree with this. Doctors have never taken strike action before, which should be an indicator of just how bad what Jeremy Hunt is proposing, is. Further reinforcing my belief that he is trying to make the NHS look rubbish so he can justify selling it off. He needs to admit he's made a massive mistake. (Granted, he won't of course as he's a goon). If we lose Doctors seeking better conditions to the Private Sector, or abroad this will mean we have more strain on the NHS just when it doesn't need it. We will need to get Doctors from abroad, which obviously means more immigration. All because our health secretary is an incompetent, stubborn idiot.

Or is it an indicator that this is the first time anyone's dared to take them on? From my experiences the NHS managed to look rubbish often enough even when it was well funded.

Nobody pro-EU seems to mind unskilled Eastern Europeans undercutting labour in this country so why's there a problem with getting some foreign doctors in cheaper and reducing the £30 billion overspend that even the latest apparently too austere budget has?

As far as I'm concerned they can all pay back their huge training fees to the taxpayers who funded them and go work in Australia. Or work in the private sector in this country. Or accept that for the UK to ever even scratch the surface of its debt, it needs to make cuts.

[K-Hod]

Or is it an indicator that this is the first time anyone's dared to take them on? From my experiences the NHS managed to look rubbish often enough even when it was well funded.

Nobody pro-EU seems to mind unskilled Eastern Europeans undercutting labour in this country so why's there a problem with getting some foreign doctors in cheaper and reducing the £30 billion overspend that even the latest apparently too austere budget has?

As far as I'm concerned they can all pay back their huge training fees to the taxpayers who funded them and go work in Australia. Or work in the private sector in this country. Or accept that for the UK to ever even scratch the surface of its debt, it needs to make cuts.

They would do, if Jeremy Hunt wasn't being a complete pillock. Believe me, they probably will go to the private sector and earn more money otherwise....

[Mike E]

Bloke I knew fleetingly (but remember was a great laugh) from where my mum works was complaining of a chesty cough 2 weeks ago. Lung cancer took him this morning.

Don't 'just leave it' guys, get your symptoms checked out.

[jim mk2]

Conservative MPs today voted against allowing 3,000 child refugees into the country. These young people, who are sleeping rough in camps around Europe every night, were expected to be offered shelter in Britain after an initiative by peers in the House of Lords but the heartless swines turned them away.

The Nasty party is back

[perthblue02]

Conservative MPs today voted against allowing 3,000 child refugees into the country. These young people, who are sleeping rough in camps around Europe every night, were expected to be offered shelter in Britain after an initiative by peers in the House of Lords but the heartless swines turned them away.

The Nasty party is back

Thats a quarter of the number that were made orphans by the war on the invisible weapons of mass destruction, so the nasty party just carrying on from the lying nasty party?

[Gamst]

Nice to see the BBC reporting on the likes of this, Tata and Austin Reed. Bit of a deviation from their usual attitude that only public sector employment woes matter. And might dispel the common opinion somewhat that the public sector is constantly hard done to whilst everyone else is living it up on bankers wages.

The junior doctors don't like their pay and conditions. The BHS staff are gonna lose their jobs and pensions, which were an absolute pittance of a doctor's pension to begin with.

Know its not a competition but the doctors need to get real and acknowledge that its an increasingly tough economic climate and everyone (except the top 1%) is being squeezed.

I think the BBC coverage of the Junior Doctors Strike has been sub-standard. The tories have them in their back pocket whilst they anxiously wait to hear if their charter is renewed.

I don't see what the BHS employers have to do with this? Everyone feels for anyone who is made redundant, but why that should stop doctors protesting is beyond me?

I will declare my conflict of interest, Im a doctor and this is how I see it. Incidentally I disagree with the all-out strike. This is not because I fear for patients as the consultant led cover of emergency care is more than adequate. Rather, I fear that public sympathy will wane. Hunt and his minions use the right wing media to perpetuate the butchered statistics and half truths that he repeatedly spews and I fear that the public will be unable to see through it!

We were happily going about our business earning considerably less than our counterparts in other developed countries, regularly working many hours beyond our rotas to help patients. We were not asking for more money, we just don't expect to have a contract imposed on us that is clearly unfair and dangerous. I really don't feel that its unreasonable to defend ourselves. The premise of a 7 day NHS is a political scam. Anyone who works in the NHS knows that the present 5 day provision is threadbare and that extending this to 7 days is absolute madness, especially without any extra funding. Whilst doctors don't want to lose money, they mostly want to preserve the NHS as we know it so that our children have access to healthcare without astronomical costs or insurance premiums. The NHS relies on the good will of its staff and this will rapidly begin to disappear if it hasn't already. Doctors are highly qualified and our skills are certainly transferable outwith the profession. Many will either leave the UK or leave for the private sector and will earn more and work less hours as a consequence. We need to keep doctors in this country treating our friends and family. The foreign replacements often have had an inferior medical education. Indeed, we are constantly lowering the standards of foreign doctors that we accept in the UK to plug the gaping rota gaps that already exist. The explanation for astronomical wages and bonuses for bankers is that we need to keep them in the country, why this does not extend to doctors is beyond me. It reeks of a government whose priorities are wrong.