[Archived] Rant (4?)

[T J Hooker]

Without getting involved in an argument I'd say that's not true.

I know someone who had the softest well trained staffie you would ever know . However it broke its lead and ran to the moors and killed two sheep .

I have a greyhound, softest girl ever but if she got near sheep off lead she'd no doubt have a go as well, its got nothing to do wit aggression they're just doing what's natural to them,(catching and killing prey) the dog you've mentioned shouldn't have been able to slip/break its lead(again thats more a case of a poor irresponsible owner) if the dog had tried killing a human it would be a different story, i dont think any breed of dog should ever see a human as prey unless they've been conditioned to do so

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Surely an animal doesn't have to see something as pray to kill it. There are a number of reasons why a dog would be motivated to kill a human. At the end of the day they are potentially dangerous but a lot of people really like them so think society should accept that risk. Not sure that's a sound argument myself, and it seems a rather hypocritical one when you consider some of the same people are constantly on at Americans to do away with their guns.

[K-Hod]

Seeing lazy people at work taking the lift (despite signs saying it's only for disabled people/large items), then seeing a guy with limited mobility trekking down the stairs!!

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Inconsiderate a-holes moaning about other people being inconsiderate. Was on the train at the weekend and a family of 3 were having a right old moan that some other people had sat in their reserved seats (understandable), but they then proceeded to talk loudly and play noisy games on their phones for the rest of the journey, in the quiet carriage! As an aside I do wonder whether I'm out of touch for thinking the quiet carriage actually means anything, every time I sit in it its at least as noisy as the rest of the train.

[jim mk2]

Death rate from guns in the US is 103 per 1m people according to latest figures so with a roughly population of 350m more than 3,500 people died from firearms last year.

Recent figures show there were a reported 30 deaths at the hands of dogs in the US last year.

So there is no hypocrisy at all to call for better gun controls and to equate deaths from dogs with deaths by firearms is obviously plain daft.

Alot of train companies are giving up on quiet coaches because the rules are not enforced and people ignore them anyway.

Personally I'm looking forward to the day when I can buy a piece of kit that jams other people's mobile phones - especially those sitting near you on a train.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Death rate from guns in the US is 103 per 1m people according to latest figures so with a roughly population of 350m more than 3,500 people died from firearms last year.

Recent figures show there were a reported 30 deaths at the hands of dogs in the US last year.

So there is no hypocrisy at all to call for better gun controls and to equate deaths from dogs with deaths by firearms is obviously plain daft.

How do the numbers killed affect the principle? If 30 people were killed by guns in America every year, would it be right for everyone to be able to buy them?

They are both items that have the potential to kill people and that (in most cases) people own for enjoyment. Its still a case of weighing up the risk of someone being killed against personal enjoyment, so I do think its hypocritical to then slag off guns or alcohol or anything else that people do for enjoyment but has the potential to endager others.

If the only people dogs ever killed were their own owners I wouldn't have any problem with it at all. As it is I still don't have a problem, its still worth the risk considering how popular they are. But in terms of the law I definitely think they should be treated as an extension of the person, whatever harm a dog does, the owner should go to prison for the equivalent time they would if they had caused that amount of harm.

[ABBEY]

Appperently the bloodline has been traced and it's not 100% staff so there's nothing can be done .. (Not leaving it at that)...appperently the dog is always escaping and attacking other dogs !!!

[T J Hooker]

If it was 100% staffie that wouldn't be a issue, its american pitbulls that are banned. just sayin.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Appperently the bloodline has been traced and it's not 100% staff so there's nothing can be done .. (Not leaving it at that)...appperently the dog is always escaping and attacking other dogs !!!

I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to dogs, I give them a wide berth at all times. My question is why does the pedigree matter in this case ?

[ABBEY]

If it was 100% staffie that wouldn't be a issue, its american pitbulls that are banned. just sayin.

It was what the dog warden told me .just sayin.

I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to dogs, I give them a wide berth at all times. My question is why does the pedigree matter in this case ?

Not got a clue pal.

[T J Hooker]

Queuing up in the shops at this time of year you see people buying some real shiite, stuff they'd never even look twice at at any other time(and I'm not talking about christmas themed paraphernalia ) just random crap, its as though a lot of people aren't content at xmas unless they clear out their entire bank account out, so they just start picking up any old rubbish.

[T J Hooker]

[Reedy You're A Star]

It was what the dog warden told me .just sayin.

Not got a clue pal.

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs

Then the dog warden is talking out of his arse.

Absolutely nothing wrong with Staffy's as a breed. It's @#/? like this that gives them a bad name and people who know nothing about dogs or their behaviour, that perpetuate it. Would you be on here ranting if it was a Jack Russel or an Alsatian? I doubt it.

[Pedro]

On average, I find terriers to be the most aggressive type of dog. They are also lairy, in your face little gits that swing towards my dog yapping and snarling when it is minding it's own business. I wouldn't hesitate to give one a damn good kicking if one ever got a grip on my dog or child.

But, same goes, not all of them are bad.

[ABBEY]

Yes I fkg would .. Doesn't matter what breed it was . It attacked my dog giving me a chuffing unwarranted expense a few days before Christmas . She's never been attacked by any other breed so stop sticking up for the indefensible.

The police rang and told me the same thing so the police are talking out there arse as well. This dog has appperently attacked at least four other dogs and I have unconfirmed news that it killed a small dog .

As for saying I know nothing about dogs what evidence do you base this on . I've had dogs for 48 years .

So you don't want me ranting in a rant thread about a dog trying to kill my dog .

https://www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/banned-dogs

Then the dog warden is talking out of his arse.

Absolutely nothing wrong with Staffy's as a breed. It's @#/? like this that gives them a bad name and people who know nothing about dogs or their behaviour, that perpetuate it. Would you be on here ranting if it was a Jack Russel or an Alsatian? I doubt it.

[Mike E]

On average, I find terriers to be the most aggressive type of dog. They are also lairy, in your face little gits that swing towards my dog yapping and snarling when it is minding it's own business. I wouldn't hesitate to give one a damn good kicking if one ever got a grip on my dog or child.

But, same goes, not all of them are bad.

I had a scottie who sadly died 3 years ago, who hated any dog bigger than him after being bitten as a pup.

But ofc we were sensible, kept him on a lead on any walk until his final couple of years when he wasn't capable of more than a light jog

We have a beautiful little cat now, but I miss having dogs.

[Gav]

Katie ******* Hopkins

I going to spend more time in the New Year hating that bitch.

[Reedy You're A Star]

Yes I fkg would .. Doesn't matter what breed it was .

My point exactly.

It attacked my dog giving me a chuffing unwarranted expense a few days before Christmas . She's never been attacked by any other breed so stop sticking up for the indefensible.

That's unfortunate. I said before it was a horrible thing to happen to you and your dog. But, it is just bad luck that it is only Staffys that have attacked your dogs. I have owned and subsequently trained Staffs for over 10 years now and because they are well trained and listen to my commands, they have never attacked any dog, person or other animal. As I'm sure your dog hasn't. But, if another dog the same breed attacked someone, would that mean yours should be put down?

The police rang and told me the same thing so the police are talking out there arse as well.

The link was to the governments banned dog list. Staffys aren't on it. So, yes, they're talking out of their arse too. If not, then I expect mine and every other staffy owners dogs to be taken away in the New Year and Mancheste and Cheshire dogs homes to be shut down for selling banned breeds of dogs.

This dog has appperently attacked at least four other dogs and I have unconfirmed news that it killed a small dog .

That's very sad and the dog should be removed and put down and as I said before, the owner should never be allowed to own a dog again. But, because this one dog has been brought up to be dangerous doesn't mean ALL staffs are.

As for saying I know nothing about dogs what evidence do you base this on . I've had dogs for 48 years .

So you don't want me ranting in a rant thread about a dog trying to kill my dog .

Apologies for that. But, I find it bizarre that a, presumably, responsible dog owner has this opinion of dogs. If you have owned dogs for 48 years, then I would expect you to know that there are no bad dogs, just bad owners.

[T J Hooker]

My point exactly.

That's unfortunate. I said before it was a horrible thing to happen to you and your dog. But, it is just bad luck that it is only Staffys that have attacked your dogs. I have owned and subsequently trained Staffs for over 10 years now and because they are well trained and listen to my commands, they have never attacked any dog, person or other animal. As I'm sure your dog hasn't. But, if another dog the same breed attacked someone, would that mean yours should be put down?

The link was to the governments banned dog list. Staffys aren't on it. So, yes, they're talking out of their arse too. If not, then I expect mine and every other staffy owners dogs to be taken away in the New Year and Mancheste and Cheshire dogs homes to be shut down for selling banned breeds of dogs.

That's very sad and the dog should be removed and put down and as I said before, the owner should never be allowed to own a dog again. But, because this one dog has been brought up to be dangerous doesn't mean ALL staffs are.

Apologies for that. But, I find it bizarre that a, presumably, responsible dog owner has this opinion of dogs. If you have owned dogs for 48 years, then I would expect you to know that there are no bad dogs, just bad owners.

The dog shpuld be taken away from its dicktard owners and then be assseseed by experienced dog handlers to decided if it is safe to rehome it with suitable owners that will be safe and responsible or if the dog is beyond reasonable help then sadly being pts is the most likely action. Abbey you keep banging on about the dog itself, your issue should mainly be with the dogs owner, i know if my dogs where viciously attacked, after restraining the attacking dog(stamping on its neck if nessasary) id knock the hell out of the owners as if it was my kids that had been attacked(no, i don't actually have kids but you get my point )

[T J Hooker]

On average, I find terriers to be the most aggressive type of dog. They are also lairy, in your face little gits that swing towards my dog yapping and snarling when it is minding it's own business. I wouldn't hesitate to give one a damn good kicking if one ever got a grip on my dog or child.

But, same goes, not all of them are bad.

"Terriers"! Bloody hell that covers a hell a lot of dogs(plus the majority of mixed breeds)

Generally speaking chiwawas and jack russle types tend to be the most " lairy" dogs in my experiance(again though that's usually down to the owners not socialising them with a mixed range of dogs and people when they're pups)

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

In my experience the little @#/?s that are just big enough to bite your ankle are the most aggressive.

[Pedro]

"Terriers"! Bloody hell that covers a hell a lot of dogs(plus the majority of mixed breeds)

Generally speaking chiwawas and jack russle types tend to be the most " lairy" dogs in my experiance(again though that's usually down to the owners not socialising them with a mixed range of dogs and people when they're pups)

I agree TJ, I was just trying to counter Abbey's sweeping statement that all staffs are bad - I don't own one so I'm impartial but truthfully, in my experience it's been the little terrier dogs that are the main aggressors. I've heard of plenty of staffs that are gits too, but I totally agree with the others, upbringing and ownership is a massive influence on any dog.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

I agree TJ, I was just trying to counter Abbey's sweeping statement that all staffs are bad - I don't own one so I'm impartial but truthfully, in my experience it's been the little terrier dogs that are the main aggressors. I've heard of plenty of staffs that are gits too, but I totally agree with the others, upbringing and ownership is a massive influence on any dog.

Or child.

[Pedro]

My rant.

All those bloody little things you've got to snip through, twist, un-knot etc. before you can remove a toy from a box these days. Absolutely sick of them.

[Gav]

When Boxing day games get called off