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Thanks Al and TJ, it started about a month ago. Since then I've had it off and on most of the time. When it's on it's bloody painful and I can't get about as much as I'd like.

There is plenty that can be done these days.

1st off you need an MRI scan to determine which disc has moved and how much pressure it is putting on the nerve.

Then as Al did try to have the disc manipulated back into place.

If this does not do the trick then an operation is needed to shave the disc and stop it putting pressure on the nerve.

Going forward if the disc has moved in one direction there is a chance that in the future it could move in the opposite direction and causing the pain down the other leg.

Then it is a case of going through the above again.

There are a couple of Pilates exercises that can help as well, these build up the vertical muscles around the spine that help keep the discs in place

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The phrase "stick or twist". The media appear to be obsessed with saying/writing it, as though its literally the coolest and most dramatic thing that can be said about any uncertain situation. Which then means you get the parade of mentally redundant ex-players trotting it out for things it doesn't even really apply to. Its the new "look"/"listen" that's been all the rage before saying literally anything connected to sport for the last year.

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Using the word 'medal' as a verb, and making up words with '-ality' on the end annoy me.

Yep, a bad one. You don't "medal" at the Olympics; you win a medal.

Pre- on the beginning of words annoys me, eg "pre-book". I mean, how do you book before you book?

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Yep, a bad one. You don't "medal" at the Olympics; you win a medal.

Pre- on the beginning of words annoys me, eg "pre-book". I mean, how do you book before you book?

Don't even get me started on 'pre-prepare'.

Pre-book actually makes sense as in 'book before you go', but as you say the word 'book' performs that function anyway.

A bit like 'irregardless', in that sense.

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Medal is one that infuriates me too. And going back a bit, in defence of teachers on snow days, I've often set off for work in Blackburn only to get a text halfway there telling me to go home as snow is too bad at school. It's not individual teachers who are lazy and expect days off for snow. It's that a head teacher has to weigh up all sorts of things like where his staff are coming from, whether they can get home afterwards, how safe the premises are for pupils and staff, whether weather conditions are worsening. It's not a decision most take lightly. Our school generally tried to stay open if at all possible. In the past pupils lived close to their school and so did staff, whereas nowadays staff working in Blackburn live anywhere from Halifax to Lancaster, from Blackpool to skipton. It's a heads responsibility to think of his/her staff welfare and sometimes it means that those of us who could get to work get a day off too.

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Medal is one that infuriates me too. And going back a bit, in defence of teachers on snow days, I've often set off for work in Blackburn only to get a text halfway there telling me to go home as snow is too bad at school. It's not individual teachers who are lazy and expect days off for snow. It's that a head teacher has to weigh up all sorts of things like where his staff are coming from, whether they can get home afterwards, how safe the premises are for pupils and staff, whether weather conditions are worsening. It's not a decision most take lightly. Our school generally tried to stay open if at all possible. In the past pupils lived close to their school and so did staff, whereas nowadays staff working in Blackburn live anywhere from Halifax to Lancaster, from Blackpool to skipton. It's a heads responsibility to think of his/her staff welfare and sometimes it means that those of us who could get to work get a day off too.

Must try harder Gumboots! When was the last time a hospital, police station or fire station closed because of a snow shower? Travel to work challenges affect us all but headmasters/teachers are the first to fall.

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Must try harder Gumboots! When was the last time a hospital, police station or fire station closed because of a snow shower? Travel to work challenges affect us all but headmasters/teachers are the first to fall.

That's a bit different though. I see your point, but the 3 things you mention there are services that save people's lives - closing them would be catastrophic. Closing schools is never ideal, but at least people won't die as a consequence!

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If it snows really badly and half of the workers can't get in, does the MD shut the factory? Or do they stay open and do the best they can with those who can get in?

See, that comparison makes more sense. Just don't feel comparisons with emergency services were particularly fair, or relevant.

I think shutting a school should be the very last resort.

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I do agree with Sambo above. That being said though, schools are in a difficult position. If the kids went in, and one slipped on the ice, where there's blame and all that.....

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That's a bit different though. I see your point, but the 3 things you mention there are services that save people's lives - closing them would be catastrophic. Closing schools is never ideal, but at least people won't die as a consequence!

Ok then, substitute any private sector business!

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Previously if you lived a distance away from your school and you couldn't get in you had to report to the nearest appropriate school to your location. Now it's the nearest in your local education area. A friend of ours battled from Southport to Rochdale to get in during the recent snows.

Before you say " Why doesn't she get a job nearer home ? ", she's an Assisant Head Teacher and jobs near the top of the greasy pole don't just come up where you want them to.

There is plenty that can be done these days.

1st off you need an MRI scan to determine which disc has moved and how much pressure it is putting on the nerve.

Then as Al did try to have the disc manipulated back into place.

If this does not do the trick then an operation is needed to shave the disc and stop it putting pressure on the nerve.

Going forward if the disc has moved in one direction there is a chance that in the future it could move in the opposite direction and causing the pain down the other leg.

Then it is a case of going through the above again.

There are a couple of Pilates exercises that can help as well, these build up the vertical muscles around the spine that help keep the discs in place

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Thanks to all who showed some concern, I appreciate it. I'll give it bit longer but if it doesn't improve I'll have to seek further treatment.

I used to see a guy called Frank Plum. He did work for Rovers in the old days. He had rooms in Rochdale and on Preston New Road I believe. Told me lots about the players in those days, Alan Gilliver ( he had disc trouble ) in particular.

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If it snows really badly and half of the workers can't get in, does the MD shut the factory? Or do they stay open and do the best they can with those who can get in?

What is a school to do if 30 reception children can get in, but their teacher can't?

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