[Archived] Transfer Talk Part 3

[savage90]

I said weeks ago that after last season, given the strikers we had - we either need 4 new defenders or a whole new management team.

Personally I have more faith in the players than the staff.

[Jim Royle]

Hearing Swedish Striker

Denni Avdićs is flying in Tommorrow for a trial.....

Where are the Defenders ?

Surely that is a scottish ladyboy, no?

[Amo]

Scott Dann wasn't good enough for us, either. Works under a proper manager and wins player of the year.

Killa and Duffy are good enough for this division. Hanley, too. I don't agree with him being captain and the manager's pet, but he's shown in the past that he can be a half-decent defender. It's the team's inability to defend as a unit that is proving costly and forcing players into individual errors. Only my opinion, of course.

[had.e.nuff]

I don't think there is a need to bring in any bodies in defence - the players we have got are adequate for this league. They just need setting up properly and not to have the midfield so deep.

Totaly agree why cant the powers at be see we need a defensive coach to organise them

[Mike E]

Totaly agree why cant the powers at be see we need a defensive coach to organise them

No team should ever need a 'defensive coach'. Last time we had one was Hendry under Kean and Winterbottom under Ince!

Just need a manager that can organise the defence.

[T J Hooker]

Just need a manager.

[adsfortheblues]

No team should ever need a 'defensive coach'. Last time we had one was Hendry under Kean and Winterbottom under Ince!

Just need a manager that can organise the defence.

Correct Mick, look at us under Hughes and Allardyce, team knew exactly what they needed to do and how to do it, and even Souness, I remember one season we came nearly top of the clean sheet league with about 17 in the season!

[Reedy You're A Star]

Totaly agree why cant the powers at be see we need a defensive coach to organise them

Craig "comes up" Short was a good defender and he's a coach. Surely he should be doing that job?

[Mani]

Mani.

You are clearly well informed about affairs at rovers and rumoured on here to be close to the coaches etc, yet you are concerned about Bowyer's lack of tactical ability. Have you never discussed this with the people you are close to? If they were my mates, I would seriously be asking wtf they are doing defensively and as a group. Are they not aware/concerned by the lack of consistent formations/performances?

Don't take this the wrong way as you have given some great info and I have enjoyed reading your posts. Just wondered. I knew a lad who used to work at the academy and he was pretty frank with his views at the time.

Yes, I'm pretty straight about it. But they're not going to justify themselves to me mate. They aren't happy about some of the goals as has been reported...I know they work hard at it, and that it's hard to get that consistency with so many young players in the team who are prone to making individual mistakes.

But based on some of the teams I get to see quite regularly and what they achieve with less ability, playing as a team, I'm just perplexed as to why we're ALWAYS so vulnerable.

[JBiz]

But based on some of the teams I get to see quite regularly and what they achieve with less ability, playing as a team, I'm just perplexed as to why we're ALWAYS so vulnerable.

You just said it. Inexperience, not only in the playing squad but staff.

We've missed a real general on the pitch for years now. Williamson, with all his physical shortfalls was as near as we got.

Hopefully Guthrie in his prime will be the answer but it'd be a miracle to find everything we need to push on further with the financial limitations in place.

[bluebruce]

Yes, I'm pretty straight about it. But they're not going to justify themselves to me mate. They aren't happy about some of the goals as has been reported...I know they work hard at it, and that it's hard to get that consistency with so many young players in the team who are prone to making individual mistakes.

But based on some of the teams I get to see quite regularly and what they achieve with less ability, playing as a team, I'm just perplexed as to why we're ALWAYS so vulnerable.

I think the question is more aimed at what do the coaching staff think of your criticisms of Bowyer, not criticisms of them. So they wouldn't need to defend 'themselves' anyway, they'd be defending Gary. If they're defending Gary.

Surely they have opinions on why we play two defensive mids all the time when it clearly makes us soak up pressure, why we persist with Chris 'The Donkey' Brown, or whether Gary is overly pally with the players as it seems.

[Baz]

Formations and personnel aside, we aren't defending from the front. No one is pressing defenders into making errors, we drop off and give the opposition time to pick a pass, make a run etc. Look at the wolves game where our defensive lines are - we have dropped off so far is nigh on impossible to make a mistake and not give the opposition a shot on goal. It's also the reason we end up with massive gaps between defence and midfield and why our midfielders never get ahead of play, they are simply too far behind play.

This is all the ethos, not a formation issue, or a personnel issue.

[patrickvalery]

I'm not heartless Patrick, just checked for you, it's on again next Wednesday at 9.00 pm ITV 4.

Just to let you know Westers, I'm sat down to watch moonraker thanks to your excellent TV guide information. Many thanks me old fruit.

[bluebruce]

Just to let you know Westers, I'm sat down to watch moonraker thanks to your excellent TV guide information. Many thanks me old fruit.

Get off here then or you'll end up missing it all again!

[patrickvalery]

Don't fret Bruce. There's always the adverts. You'd be amazed at the inane rubbish I can conjure up in three minutes!!

[Pedro]

Formations and personnel aside, we aren't defending from the front. No one is pressing defenders into making errors, we drop off and give the opposition time to pick a pass, make a run etc. Look at the wolves game where our defensive lines are - we have dropped off so far is nigh on impossible to make a mistake and not give the opposition a shot on goal. It's also the reason we end up with massive gaps between defence and midfield and why our midfielders never get ahead of play, they are simply too far behind play.

This is all the ethos, not a formation issue, or a personnel issue.

Absolutely right.

They MUST be conditioned to play this way. 9 different players turned out yesterday and played the exact style as the first choice. Only development I've noticed is that we lack width this season and the fwds are often in a muddled up mess in the middle.

Undoubtedly, it is 'tactical'.

[Stand & Deliver]

Yes, I'm pretty straight about it. But they're not going to justify themselves to me mate. They aren't happy about some of the goals as has been reported...I know they work hard at it, and that it's hard to get that consistency with so many young players in the team who are prone to making individual mistakes.

But based on some of the teams I get to see quite regularly and what they achieve with less ability, playing as a team, I'm just perplexed as to why we're ALWAYS so vulnerable.

They work hard at the goals conceded problem? Bloody hell I'd hate to see it if they had an off week!

[JAL]

Yes, I'm pretty straight about it. But they're not going to justify themselves to me mate. They aren't happy about some of the goals as has been reported...I know they work hard at it, and that it's hard to get that consistency with so many young players in the team who are prone to making individual mistakes.

But based on some of the teams I get to see quite regularly and what they achieve with less ability, playing as a team, I'm just perplexed as to why we're ALWAYS so vulnerable.

Any news on Chris Brown's departure before the deadline.

[ABBEY]

They have swapped him for recycling wheelie bin . The wheelie bin can jump higher and has had as many goals too.

[patrickvalery]

Any news on Chris Brown's departure before the deadline.

Evostick have put in a reasonable offer. But there's talk that a local shire horse farm might gazump them at the last minute. It's a very delicate situation at present JAL.

[Neal]

Any news on Chris Brown's departure before the deadline.

Hang on, is this something that could happen? Would be best for everyone concerned.

[Stand & Deliver]

Any news on Chris Brown's departure before the deadline.

I've heard his agent is offering him around Blackpool beach.

[bluebruce]

I've heard his agent is offering him around Blackpool beach.

I live a stone's throw from there. I'll take him. He can tidy my garden. I'll be doing the club a solid at the same time.

[Stand & Deliver]

I live a stone's throw from there. I'll take him. He can tidy my garden. I'll be doing the club a solid at the same time.

He'd probably miss the grass and bite the concrete costing you loads in vets bills. Swerve!

[patrickvalery]

I live a stone's throw from there. I'll take him. He can tidy my garden. I'll be doing the club a solid at the same time.

You got a penchant for divots Bruce?

I dunno why I'm slagging him really. Truth be told I hope he does manage to turn it all around. I'm just not convinced he will.