[Archived] Rhodes Wants To Leave

[imy9]

Will be interesting to see if Rhodes hands in a transfer request to push the deal through.

[roverandout]

Once a players head has been turned there is no option but to grant his request, do these imbeciles think they have control on everyone and everything at this club?

[J*B]

We will know what's happening by end of play Monday.

[perthblue02]

Once a players head has been turned there is no option but to grant his request, do these imbeciles think they have control on everyone and everything at this club?

Well judging by court papers and ins and outs of the club they have no control over appointments by their at the time project partners and associates,

[bluebruce]

Once a players head has been turned there is no option but to grant his request, do these imbeciles think they have control on everyone and everything at this club?

Um. Yes, yes there is. We've done it before. There is always another option. This is a very defeatist attitude, and not one employed by Daniel Levy at Spurs. They always get excellent money for their outgoings. If you just throw in the towel because a player wants out, you don't get that kind of money. We've also turned down bids completely because they haven't met valuations. It didn't work out well with Benni, but it has with Rudy and Rhodes so far. Samba got refused in windows too, and kept playing just fine.

[yoda]

and there's the rub. We are under an embargo and can't replace him except with the likes of Delfonsou. Rhodes knows this but still went running to the press and has essentially forced Rovers hand. He owes Rovers nothing but lets not pretend he's a Saint. He's looking after himself, like he did when he left Huddersfield.

Feck him. He runs like a girl. Up the Rovers.

Ridiculous comment

no, you interpreted them as an 'advert for all our players'. Lots of managers praise their players.

Rhodes - remarkable restraint? Has he been playing in the stiffs, ostracised from the 1st team and been fined every week? Or has he signed an improved contract and then 12 months later wants to bugger off again. Saint Jordan may just be after an even bigger contract, which he'll probably get at Boro.

Or did he sign it based on the club statement that promotion was the target, stop trying to re write what happened

Jordan Rhodes (and the other signings we bought in the championship) has always been part of the problem. Paying 8 million for a championship striker on 40k a week is ludicrous. Paying Danny Murphy,Etuhu and the likes the same is ludicrous. We can't look at the accounts and despair at the debt and then turn a blind eye to what we have been paying/are paying players.

Jordan has scored goals for us. Lots of them. Do I want to sell him? No. We will be weaker without him and the players we replace him with will be inferior. This does not however change my opinion that we shouldn't have signed him in the first place. Good luck to him at Boro.

It was and still is the best signing we have made since the Venky's trapped up, are you in Shaw Shaw's pocket

But, in all likelihood, there are factions at the club, (possibly the MD and manager), who are trying to sell him.

That does not make him a liar.

Everyone has a tipping point and had the matter been conducted in a professional way I'm sure Rhodes would've said nothing. By modern standards I was amazed he kept quiet after the Hull fiasco.

If a star player hears his manager advertising players in the media, (including since the embargo has been imposed), and then sees French 3rd Division players brought in, and taking everything into consideration, I think his response is natural.

Correct IMO

We wanted promotion. We haven't got it. This isn't on Jordan but on all the players purchased that were not suited to the league and cost us extortionate amounts of money. Look at our debt over the last 3 years, we are currently in an embargo because of it.

I said him and the other signings we bought (first line). Not happy to be weaker (first line 2nd paragraph).

The root causes of this mess is the ludicrous amounts of money spent on players, including Rhodes. We should not have spent 8 million plus 40k a week on any player.

Oh I prefer sofa to armchair, far more comfortable.

That is bullshit, the root cause is no viable management structure, I.e. Shaw Shaw and Sicknote

[Gav]

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[imy9]

Ridiculous comment

Or did he sign it based on the club statement that promotion was the target, stop trying to re write what happened

It was and still is the best signing we have made since the Venky's trapped up, are you in Shaw Shaw's pocket

Correct IMO

That is bullshit, the root cause is no viable management structure, I.e. Shaw Shaw and Sicknote

The overall root cause is Venky's. The by product is the management and in turn the money spent on players. We are in a embargo because? All of the above, however under Bowyer we have signed players in line with a championship club. If he was manager when we were relegated perhaps the debt would not be so high. If you read my whole post/s I have explained myself. I don't have a problem with Rhodes and what he has done.

[blueboy3333]

Ridiculous comment

Or did he sign it based on the club statement that promotion was the target, stop trying to re write what happened

It was and still is the best signing we have made since the Venky's trapped up, are you in Shaw Shaw's pocket

Correct IMO

That is bullshit, the root cause is no viable management structure, I.e. Shaw Shaw and Sicknote

Well firstly, lighten up. My 'ridiculous comment' was a joke.

Secondly, if promotion was the target or not he didn't need to sign an improved contract, but he did. That's not re-writing history, that's a fact. He didn't need to sign anything, he still had 2 years left on his old contract. Saint Jordan got a pay rise.

Thirdly, comments like 'are you in Shaw's pocket' really are ridiculous when in response to a reasoned post from Imy...a post that didn't mention Shaw.

BTW what exactly is wrong with our Comms director? was it not mentioned on here that he had a serious illness?

[Feniscowles Blue]

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Saint Jordan got a pay rise.

Do you work for nothing ?

Are you just pleased to keep your wages exactly the same year on year and you wouldn't accept a pay rise?

Is JR a bad person now ?

[blueboy3333]

Do you work for nothing ?

Are you just pleased to keep your wages exactly the same year on year and you wouldn't accept a pay rise?

Is JR a bad person now ?

Comparing Joe Public on an average wage to a footballer on £40k a week is probably not the best starting point but...

Rhodes can accept what he wants, but it sticks in the craw when 12 months later he goes running to the press demanding a move (which is essentially what he has done). For that reason he's an unprofessional slapped arse who has @#/? on Rovers at at time when we can't adequately replace him because of the embargo. Whether he's a bad person i have no idea. Do you?

[Feniscowles Blue]

Well, your calling him Saint in a sarcastic way suggesting you think he's the opposite for trying to max his career

[yoda]

Well firstly, lighten up. My 'ridiculous comment' was a joke.

Secondly, if promotion was the target or not he didn't need to sign an improved contract, but he did. That's not re-writing history, that's a fact. He didn't need to sign anything, he still had 2 years left on his old contract. Saint Jordan got a pay rise.

Thirdly, comments like 'are you in Shaw's pocket' really are ridiculous when in response to a reasoned post from Imy...a post that didn't mention Shaw.

BTW what exactly is wrong with our Comms director? was it not mentioned on here that he had a serious illness?

if he is not fit for work get shut

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Shouldn't have signed him in the first place ? We would have been relegated without him !!!

Your happier to be weaker?

Must be great in your armchair

Abbey - I have never been 100% certain that we would have been relegated without Rhodes - it is never as simplistic as taking away the 20+ goals he scored.

Rhodes has deficiences in his game that none of our managers have ever been able to get around tactically. This has had a big impact on our team play - as it is often like playing with 10 men when Rhodes isn't scoring. Given where we are now - and the deficiences in our midfield - a quicker forward would make a big difference to the team even if he didn't score as many as Rhodes.

I always think back to the year Everton had Lineker - he scored nearly 50 goals in all competitions - but they came second that year. I read something at the time that Everton had tried to change their style to accomodate Lineker. At the end of the day football is a team game - and sometimes individual players shine at the expense of overall team play. (BTW none of this is a reflection on Lineker who was a great team player - but just an example)

[yoda]

Abbey - I have never been 100% certain that we would have been relegated without Rhodes - it is never as simplistic as taking away the 20+ goals he scored.

Rhodes has deficiences in his game that none of our managers coaches have ever been able to get around tactically. This has had a big impact on our team play - as it is often like playing with 10 men when Rhodes isn't scoring. Given where we are now - and the deficiences in our midfield - a quicker forward would make a big difference to the team even if he didn't score as many as Rhodes.

I always think back to the year Everton had Lineker - he scored nearly 50 goals in all competitions - but they came second that year. I read something at the time that Everton had tried to change their style to accomodate Lineker. At the end of the day football is a team game - and sometimes individual players shine at the expense of overall team play. (BTW none of this is a reflection on Lineker who was a great team player - but just an example)

The last time we changed style to accommodate a player, we won the PL, then again we had a manger then

[Athlete]

Abbey - I have never been 100% certain that we would have been relegated without Rhodes - it is never as simplistic as taking away the 20+ goals he scored.

Rhodes has deficiences in his game that none of our managers have ever been able to get around tactically. This has had a big impact on our team play - as it is often like playing with 10 men when Rhodes isn't scoring. Given where we are now - and the deficiences in our midfield - a quicker forward would make a big difference to the team even if he didn't score as many as Rhodes.

I always think back to the year Everton had Lineker - he scored nearly 50 goals in all competitions - but they came second that year. I read something at the time that Everton had tried to change their style to accomodate Lineker. At the end of the day football is a team game - and sometimes individual players shine at the expense of overall team play. (BTW none of this is a reflection on Lineker who was a great team player - but just an example)

Lineker Jimmy Greaves Jordan Rhodes all have the same attributes that's putting the ball in the net the rest of their overall game doesn't matter there paid to put the ball in the net

[Gav]

Comparing Joe Public on an average wage to a footballer on £40k a week is probably not the best starting point but...

Rhodes can accept what he wants, but it sticks in the craw when 12 months later he goes running to the press demanding a move (which is essentially what he has done). For that reason he's an unprofessional slapped arse who has @#/? on Rovers at at time when we can't adequately replace him because of the embargo. Whether he's a bad person i have no idea. Do you?

Bunkum.

The owners and Shaw have been trying to sell him for 2 seasons now, how professional is that?

Shaw sold him last season only for the fat confused one to pull the plug, so blaming the player when he finally gets irritated being treated like a piece of meat is complete bunkum.

[yoda]

Bunkum.

The owners and Shaw have been trying to sell him for 2 seasons now, how professional is that?

Shaw sold tried to sell him last season only for the fat confused one to pull the plug, so blaming the player when he finally gets irritated being treated like a piece of meat is complete bunkum.

[thenodrog]

Think bigger picture FFS.

He earns 40k a week yes, that's normal to most top flight footballers.

You think bigger picture gav.

1. JR is NOT a top flight footballer and never has been! He's never played in the top division and he cant even get in the Scotland squad.

2. Our total income is prob south of 10 million pa and JR is costing approx 25% of that!

How on earth can that be 'normal'?

[dingles staying down 4ever]

Bunkum.

The owners and Shaw have been trying to sell him for 2 seasons now, how professional is that?

Shaw sold him last season only for the fat confused one to pull the plug, so blaming the player when he finally gets irritated being treated like a piece of meat is complete bunkum.

Gav,

What evidence is there that the owners have been trying to sell him? The evidence points the other way in that they stopped Deggsy from selling him last season and gave him a better deal.

To me it looked like Deggsy had gone rogue again. Again it looks like poor management at the top level of our beloved club. This is another example of why we are where we are.

There are too many levels of management at the club and it appears each with its own agenda and little communication between them. No wonder Gibson is going to the top person as Deggsy has probably advised him that it would take a fiver to buy Rhodes.

[thenodrog]

Rhodes has shown remarkable restraint until last week. Yes, he is very well paid but a footballer's is a short career and we denied him the chance to play in the Premier League a year ago.

Whilst not mentioning Rhodes specifically, Saint Gary's post match interviews last season were virtually an advert for all our players.

One of the main reasons he makes me cringe and I don't subscribe to all the 'good guy' stuff.

Seems now that he's denying himself the chance to play in the Premier League.

[bluebruce]

2. Our total income is prob south of 10 million pa and JR is costing approx 25% of that!

Except for how the accounts show in black and white that our turnover is 24 million pa.

[thenodrog]

... Saint Jordan may just be after an even bigger contract, which he'll probably get at Boro.

A bigger contract and still able to remain in his comfort zone in the championship. Nice work if you can get it.

[jim mk2]

You think bigger picture gav.

1. JR is NOT a top flight footballer and never has been! He's never played in the top division and he cant even get in the Scotland squad.

2. Our total income is prob south of 10 million pa and JR is costing approx 25% of that!

How on earth can that be 'normal'?

Accounts show income of £24 million.

[thenodrog]

Maybe if we had proper owners, a board and manager fit for purpose he wouldnt want to leave ?

Venkys Out !

Don't forget we also need proper supporters who fill the ground and pay £500 for ST's every match.

The club is a shambles going in one direction only. Only natural a player approaching his peak years would want away.

Sounds like you and a number of others are Jordan Rhodes supporters rather than BRFC supporters. Jordanettes?