niggit Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Even if he does put a transfer request in, I think they will reject it. With what Rhodes said and what Karanka came out and said added fuel to the fire. You annoy them and that's it. As Kammy said, Venky's got the better of Man United, basically said you are allowed to speak to him with his clause, doesn't mean you can sign Jones. Any player or club that seems to try cross them, then more fool them. Just a shame they couldn't run the club as sufficent, instead of destroying it.
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jim mk2 Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 The Raos certainly seem obstinate people - perhaps they've been bruised by some harsh lessons over the past 5 years and trust very few people in the game now. I know everyone wants to see the back of the Raos but that obstinacy could well see Gestede and Rhodes still at Ewood this coming season unless some club comes up with a ridiculous amount of cash. The only caveat is that both players have not been playing in many of the friendlies - so what sort of condition are they going to be in ?
tomphil Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Even if he does put a transfer request in, I think they will reject it. With what Rhodes said and what Karanka came out and said added fuel to the fire. You annoy them and that's it. As Kammy said, Venky's got the better of Man United, basically said you are allowed to speak to him with his clause, doesn't mean you can sign Jones. Any player or club that seems to try cross them, then more fool them. Just a shame they couldn't run the club as sufficent, instead of destroying it. Shame they didn't apply the hardline logic to Kean and Co then we wouldn't be in this mess. Infact if they clawed back the money that lot are responsible for bleeding from the club directly & indirectly we wouldn't need to sell any player.
LewisF Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 The only caveat is that both players have not been playing in any of the friendlies - so what sort of condition are they going to be in ?Rhodes played against Stanley and Gestede against Crewe. But I think the main reason bowyer has been reluctant to play them in pre season is not to risk injuring them, whether that be because they're going to new clubs or he wants to keep them fit for our season
jim mk2 Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Rhodes played against Stanley and Gestede against Crewe. But I think the main reason bowyer has been reluctant to play them in pre season is not to risk injuring them, whether that be because they're going to new clubs or he wants to keep them fit for our season All players need match fitness - the only possible reason they haven't been playing is because deals are being negotiated (or not as the case may be) in the background. I'm certain they're not injured either.
Baz Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Are we really praising Venkys? Their lack of communication is one of their key issues. If they want to reject offers for Rhodes, do so, if they want to negotiate, then get on with it. Not answering the phone isnt helping. The worst thing that can happen is we allow this to continue then sell at the last minute giving us no options at all to replace him - surely something we have all seen so many times before as Rovers fans? And worse this time as the replacement market is even smaller than normal. Tell me again what are they doing right here? What's the plan? Do I want him to go, well no - mainly as i have no confidence our manager could replace him even if he could spend the money. I heard our chief scout was in the stand at Bury tonight- why isnt he out scouting new players?
tomphil Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Some poor lads on that Boro forum are hanging onto Nixons every word. They've a lot to learn lol
Baz Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Is there a Geordie Chaddy on there? LikeHa'way man, wrung toon.Thy're smoggies nat joordies.
Feniscowles Blue Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Aww I thought they weren't Geordie but couldn't be arsed finding out what they call em
roverandout Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Yes I'm sure that's the plan not answering the phone 'Maaaam, there's a mister Gibson on the line here, he wishes to speak with you' 'Is this that blasted football thing again hijhaj, tell them my brothers and I are busy watching the elephant polo, we will speak with him when we are ready' 'Very good maaam but he said it's relating to rhodes' 'We aren't building any roads, is our Hindu tea ready yet hijhaj, take the phone off the hook'
RevidgeBlue Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Are we really praising Venkys?Perhaps it's tempting fate slightly and a bit premature to do so with around 35 days still to go before the transfer window slams shut. No amount of posturing at this stage will count for anything if the pair aren't still Blackburn Rocers players on September the 1st.All that said, the owners do appear to be playing a blinder on this particular issue. If we actually get to September the 1st and the pair of them are still here I certainly think praise will be in or der as that would be an astonishing achievement in our current situation and one which would have been unthinkable at the end of last season.
roverandout Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Or maybe they just dont give a @#/? and aren't replying because they're not arsed
RevidgeBlue Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Yes I'm sure that's the plan not answering the phone 'Maaaam, there's a mister Gibson on the line here, he wishes to speak with you' 'Is this that blasted football thing again hijhaj, tell them my brothers and I are busy watching the elephant polo, we will speak with him when we are ready' 'Very good maaam but he said it's relating to rhodes' 'We aren't building any roads, is our Hindu tea ready yet hijhaj, take the phone off the hook' Good Grief. Were you also the scriptwriter for Love thy Neighbour and It ain't half hot mum by any chance?
joey_big_nose Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 The longer this drags on could we really be looking at having both Rhodes and Gestede come first of September? I will be amazed. But Venkys don't seem to be blinking. Still a month to go though...
chaddyrovers Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 I think the worst thing Rhodes could do now is put in a transfer request. Cant see the owners selling Rhodes to Boro cos they dont like being forced into selling players they dont want to sell. Plus I would imagine that they look at Rhodes as a key player for us and the biggest success since buying the club. Plus they have give him a new contract last season so are looking for him to be loyal to the club. If he is still by the start of the season then we all know he will give 100% commitment to the club.
Rover_Shaun Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 So the situations are Start the new season with no strikers Or Start the new season with two disillisioned want away strikers. Effectively, no strikers. Happy Days :/ Happy days
donnermeat Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 It's amusing Gibson tried to contact her directly though, as if he was expecting to be dealing with rational people.
Ricky Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 If he's sold without asking to leave he'll be due a loyalty bonus. I would imagine it's better for us as the selling club for him to submit a transfer request if we want to make the most of the deal. Obviously it's better for us as a club if he and Rudy both stay but I don't see that happening at the moment.
chaddyrovers Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 From today's Sun paper is reporting that Rhodes asked to sit out yesterday friendly and hopes to force through a 14 million deal to join Boro. Rhodes wants showdown talks with Mrs D to plead for a move to Boro.
imy9 Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 From today's Sun paper is reporting that Rhodes asked to sit out yesterday friendly and hopes to force through a 14 million deal to join Boro. Rhodes wants showdown talks with Mrs D to plead for a move to Boro. Cannot see how that is going to bother Venky's. Probably makes them more stubborn! We definitely cannot go into the new season with both Gestede and Rhodes gone. Recipe for league 1.
davulsukur Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Rhodes has backed himself into a corner, if by some miracle he ends up staying he could be very unpopular with the Rovers faithful.
Backroom DE. Posted July 29, 2015 Backroom Posted July 29, 2015 Rhodes has done nothing worse than Chris "January Injury" Samba, and I can't remember the crowd turning on him. If he stays then this will essentially be forgotten about by the majority until the next transfer window when he's begging for a move again.
Parsonblue Posted July 29, 2015 Posted July 29, 2015 Trying to keep two players who are desperate to leave the club is seriously undermining any pre-season planning or preparations that the manager and coaching staff want to do. They don't know if the players will be here, or if they are still here just how committed to a club they will be. If they do stay both are going to be a long way behind in terms of match fitness. Unless the players have a change of heart and come out and say they want to stay and want to play for Blackburn Rovers then I really don't see how this ends well for all concerned, but particularly the club.
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