yoda Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 I never had Dunny down as a successful manager, at least not in the short term. He's done very limited coaching, mostly under managers who were hardly great themselves! Granted he's played under some good ones. He's done his badges, which is something other "managers" have not finished, as an example. People do mature you know
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JBiz Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 People do mature you know They do indeed! I'm not writing him off completely at all I just don't think he has it. Like many say it would be nice to be proven wrong and see him back here.
sambo Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 He's done his badges, which is something other "managers" have not finished, as an example. People do mature you know I wasn't writing him off - I can see he's matured. I just never had him down as a manager. As someone who loves Dunny I hope he does brilliantly, and often find myself looking at how Oldham have done. Wasn't aware about him doing all of his badges, fair play I guess. Tough job for him to start on though, think he could have benefited from an extended time as someone's assistant.
Claytons Left Boot Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Tough job for him to start on though, think he could have benefited from an extended time as someone's assistant. Too true. It's like everything else in modern day football, be it success on the pitch for clubs as a whole or players moving into coaching/management. They want it now. What Dunny should have done was 'learn his trade' or 'serve an apprenticeship' so to speak. Two or three years as an assistant manager with a League 1 or 2 club, then a Championship or Premier League club, then a move to a lower league club as manager. Then hopefully onwards and upwards from there. The route he has chosen will end in failure and limit his future opportunities. Perhaps a youth team coach somewhere or something similar. It's a hard game and, as others have pointed out, for every success there are 20 or more failures.
Exiled in Toronto Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Too true. It's like everything else in modern day football, be it success on the pitch for clubs as a whole or players moving into coaching/management. They want it now. What Dunny should have done was 'learn his trade' or 'serve an apprenticeship' so to speak. Two or three years as an assistant manager with a League 1 or 2 club, then a Championship or Premier League club, then a move to a lower league club as manager. Then hopefully onwards and upwards from there. The route he has chosen will end in failure and limit his future opportunities. Perhaps a youth team coach somewhere or something similar. It's a hard game and, as others have pointed out, for every success there are 20 or more failures. Indeed. He could have taken a leaf from Paul Lambert's career path, a much better player with a far more impressive CV who didn't go for the short cuts
the original david brent Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Indeed. He could have taken a leaf from Paul Lambert's career path, a much better player with a far more impressive CV who didn't go for the short cuts Was Lambert much better than Dunny? If Lambert was English do you think he would have been good enough to get selected for England? Genuine question. Dunny earned an England cap with competition such as Beckham, Gerrard and Lampard.
Baz Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Was Lambert much better than Dunny? If Lambert was English do you think he would have been good enough to get selected for England? Genuine question. Dunny earned an England cap with competition such as Beckham, Gerrard and Lampard. Yes, because Lambert delivered, Dunnys talent was better, but his career will always be lesser because it was blighted by injury. Lambert has a champions league winners medal, they don't give them out to anyone (well apart from David May).
danger19_80 Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 What price Dunny to go to be replaced by GB!?
yoda Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 What price Dunny to go to be replaced by GB!? Only if they accept mediocrity
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 25, 2015 Posted November 25, 2015 Was Lambert much better than Dunny? If Lambert was English do you think he would have been good enough to get selected for England? Genuine question. Dunny earned an England cap with competition such as Beckham, Gerrard and Lampard. Different types of players. The Lambert's of this World get you on top in a game. The Dunn's of this world murder the opposition when the Lambert's have done the job.
Exiled in Toronto Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Was Lambert much better than Dunny? If Lambert was English do you think he would have been good enough to get selected for England? Genuine question. Dunny earned an England cap with competition such as Beckham, Gerrard and Lampard. I think he was but that's just my opinion versus yours. If you look at each player's big moves, I'm not sure Birmingham quite matches Borussia Dortmund. My point was, as a Champions League winner, he could have easily been tempted to spurn learning his trade at Livingstone, Wycombe and Colchester before managing at the level Dunny thought he could walk into.
Salgado Is Still A Hero Posted November 26, 2015 Posted November 26, 2015 Lambert was a very good footballer in his day. Hardly saying much but he would be Scotland's best player by far if he was around at the moment. Would he have started for England? Depends who he was competing with. Ince and Batty, then Hargreaves? Have I got that right? Maybe not on Ince's level but certainly as good as the other two.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 Financial problems at Oldham apparently. The players haven't been paid for last month yet and Octobers payments were late.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 1, 2015 Posted December 1, 2015 What price Dunny to go to be replaced by GB!? Reading posts on the Oldham site he's less popular on their site after a couple of months than Bowyer was at the end of his time at Rovers was on this site. I can't see him lasting whilst Xmas.
oldjamfan1 Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Looks like Dunny is about to get potted already!!
G Somerset Rover Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Hard to see a way back into management for the lad from that. Will probably have to try his hand at being an Assistance or similar.
VinjayV4 Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Alan Nixon said they are looking at Lee Carsley as a replacement when Dunn gets the boot. Only a couple of months since Paul Wheelock of the LT stated he was doing a "good job" and considered him a candidate for Rovers manager...
onlyonejackwalker Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Return of the King (not Dunny) Man City fan?
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Looks like Dunny is about to get potted already!! It's been coming a while. Results and performances have been poor.
Amo Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Some cringey comments from Dunny in the local rag. A petty man would tell him to 'get real'.
Backroom Tom Posted January 6, 2016 Backroom Posted January 6, 2016 He's not sacked yet but on the brink, fans been calling for his head for a while
47er Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Indeed. He could have taken a leaf from Paul Lambert's career path, a much better player with a far more impressive CV who didn't go for the short cuts Like falling out with Souness!
VinjayV4 Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 He's not sacked yet but on the brink, fans been calling for his head for a while Indeed here's the type of comments sent to Dunn's twitter account... @bourney84 Asking Philliskirk to tuck in on 82 mins to preserve a point against Colchester your a gutless clueless keaner @daviddunny8 resign #oafc @bourney84 It's been a successful transfer window in my eyes so far David Dumb is running out of players to set up for a draw #attackattackattack #oafc @dean_hutchings @daviddunny8 turning round to fans today shrugging what a @#/? as if there nothing wrong you bell end #oafc @chriscoafc it's clearly not working under your leadership, if you had any decency you would do the honourable thing & walk away #oafc @jordanmartin9 Hi @daviddunny8 if you didn't turn up tomorrow or ever again that would be perfect-regards #oafc @Trains_4_Days It's annoying too because Simon Corney is such a @#/? it makes David Dunn look like the innocent one! #oafc @buckshawlatic arrogance personified It looks like he will be the manager until tomorrow. If form continues at current rate however its likely they will hit rock bottom soon. The Manchester Evening News states Dunn has been pleading for time. Here's one of Dunn's recent quotes... “If it doesn’t happen here then it will happen somewhere else and I’ll get it right somewhere else, as that’s the type of character I am." Being a failure in his first managerial role is unlikely to persuade any other football league clubs to give him a chance. Perhaps he will have to take a backroom position somewhere unless its a non league club. Although they already have a manager perhaps Darwen should make him an offer. It would certainly bump up their crowds at least.
tomphil Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 Nowt against Dunny but it seemed a bit underhand how he got the gig in the first place. Personally I don't think he's the right type of character to make a manager, prob a decent no 2 or just a coach and prob be a cracking academy guy. Doubt that would feed his ego though.
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