[Archived] Premier League 2015/16 Thread

[VinjayV4]

Please stop referring John Williams as "Saint John" in some sarcastic manner. Even if you don't think so, he did some good work here and he deserves better than your childish remarks.

Same goes for Allardyce while we are at it.

Its not really a dig at Williams. Just the complete refusal to question anything he did which likes of you shove down our throats.

Hence why my recent questions about Williams/Agnew for instance were not answered.

I said Allardyce was a good manager. Those West Ham fans are really regretting his departure right?

[davulsukur]

The likes of me?

I never refused to question things he did , he wasn't perfect but he did a good job for Rovers and he had the best interests of the club at heart.

Wrong, they're not but i don't care about West Ham, i only care about what Allardyce did at Rovers.

[VinjayV4]

The likes of me?

I never refused to question things he did , he wasn't perfect but he did a good job for Rovers and he had the best interests of the club at heart.

Wrong, they're not but i don't care about West Ham, i only care about what Allardyce did at Rovers.

Williams deserves praise for several things such as being open and accessible. I myself spoke to him on one occasion. Recently said on here I was far too harsh on Williams (mostly out of anger and frustration) so don't assume I've said he did nothing good.

It was wrong to assume you never questioned him anff I apologise for that. I won't apologise however for asking legitimate questions. Such as his failure to stand up to the trustees when he openly admitted (check the Revidge Blue comments in the Egerton-Vernon thread) there were instances where they broke Jack's wishes. Yes he stood up to Venkys but he should have stood up to the trustees as well. Infact I suggest he should have resigned in protest at their Stalinistic strategies.

Poor marketing, Agnew, Shearer/Ince, etc there's numerous questions which have been overlooked. I genuinely find it offensive that people acted as if Williams was the only man capable of running Rovers. Plus ALWAYS bring his name up despite his age every time a new chairman gets mentioned. That's an insult to a club that will celebrate its 141st birthday this year.

I'm not angry, I don't need a "chill pill" its simply stating an opinion.

[donnermeat]

I'm honestly intrigued how that could genuinely offend you Vinjay.

[Norbert Rassragr]

I can see this succeeding.............or not. Some have no shame, like his sister.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36023554

[VinjayV4]

I can see this succeeding.............or not. Some have no shame, like his sister.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36023554

He's right to appeal it. Courts need consistency in the sentencing. If Johnson gets 6 (and yes he probably won't serve it all) then others should get 6 or worse. The law is supposed to be tough but fair as well.

His Sister may be misguided but you can understand where relatives are concerned. A lot of generally moral people on here might see things differently (and blindly) when its their own family members. Johnson knows who his friends are now that Sunderland players have completely distanced themselves from him which many would argue he deserves. Some of them might genuinely be disgusted by what he's done (and ended any friendship on that basis which is fair enough) but others probably just care about their own image.

[VinjayV4]

Villa are undergoing a "headcount reduction" procedure. Supposedly that's a gentler way of saying lots of you are gonna be fired.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-staff-warned-expect-7735539

[Norbert Rassragr]

He's right to appeal it. Courts need consistency in the sentencing. If Johnson gets 6 (and yes he probably won't serve it all) then others should get 6 or worse. The law is supposed to be tough but fair as well.

His Sister may be misguided but you can understand where relatives are concerned. A lot of generally moral people on here might see things differently (and blindly) when its their own family members. Johnson knows who his friends are now that Sunderland players have completely distanced themselves from him which many would argue he deserves. Some of them might genuinely be disgusted by what he's done (and ended any friendship on that basis which is fair enough) but others probably just care about their own image.

He's groomed a girl and took advantage, 6 years is fair and should be standard. His sister seems like a muppet who sees Adam a victim. This was a calculated crime, not just a misplaced act of passion.

[oldjamfan1]

He's groomed a girl and took advantage, 6 years is fair and should be standard. His sister seems like a muppet who sees Adam a victim. This was a calculated crime, not just a misplaced act of passion.

I think the point Vinjay is making is that some people get lesser sentences for violent crimes. Every lawyer and copper I spoke to thought Johnson would get between 2 and 4 years, as that seems to be the standard sentence for that sort of crime.

I would never defend what the scumbag did but there does have to be some consistency in sentencing, and a premier league footballer should be dealt with according to the same rules and standards as anyone else.

[K-Hod]

He's groomed a girl and took advantage, 6 years is fair and should be standard. His sister seems like a muppet who sees Adam a victim. This was a calculated crime, not just a misplaced act of passion.

He's done wrong, no question. However, when you see the example I posted at the time of a Teaching Assistant who had sex with a 15 year old 50 times, (Adam Johnson committed the offence once) pretended she was pregnant with his child, got money together so they could run away, she got an 18 month suspended sentence and a £200 fine....

[VinjayV4]

He's groomed a girl and took advantage, 6 years is fair and should be standard. His sister seems like a muppet who sees Adam a victim. This was a calculated crime, not just a misplaced act of passion.

If you think it should be six years then I respect that view. Personally I think its too harsh even without taking other sentences/consistency into account.

As you say though it should be standard but it isn't. So Johnson has grounds to appeal on that basis. Even if he was genuinely sorry (which clearly he isn't) I expect he would still appeal it. Who would want to spend more time in prison than they might have to?

If you think it should be six years then I respect that view. Personally I think its too harsh even without taking other sentences/consistency into account.

As you say though it should be standard but it isn't. So Johnson has grounds to appeal on that basis. Even if he was genuinely sorry (which clearly he isn't) I expect he would still appeal it. Who would want to spend more time in prison than they might have to?

Indeed. Serious GBH and more violent sex crimes. Since most people use celebrities as examples there's some obvious comparisons. Age isn't a factor there's no age limit on prisoners. Unless they require lots of medical attention (as many old people do) which really shouldn't be the role of prisons and most likely isn't but I'm no expert. Or within the cost structure.

[Blue blood]

He's done wrong, no question. However, when you see the example I posted at the time of a Teaching Assistant who had sex with a 15 year old 50 times, (Adam Johnson committed the offence once) pretended she was pregnant with his child, got money together so they could run away, she got an 18 month suspended sentence and a £200 fine....

Yeah, but this is a situation of a judge being way too soft, or more mitigating circumstances than I could ever imagine. Not sure we can use this complete muck up of a sentencing to say Johnson should get less. Although agree there should be consistency I'd say Johnson's sentence is nearer the mark than this.

[K-Hod]

Yeah, but this is a situation of a judge being way too soft, or more mitigating circumstances than I could ever imagine. Not sure we can use this complete muck up of a sentencing to say Johnson should get less. Although agree there should be consistency I'd say Johnson's sentence is nearer the mark than this.

Oh aye, he definitely deserved some time, no question. I suppose the point I was making is that the teaching assistant committed the offence far more frequently than Johnson yet got no jail time, they've obviously made an example of Johnson with a trial by media. Painfully inconsistent.

[philipl]

Since when was Mancini rejected by our board? Forgive my ignorance if I've missed something here.

Yes it is true.

[VinjayV4]

Yep. If Philipl and Nixon agree on something then it happened!

I would have answered the question but of course people complain every time Nixon's name gets mentioned.

Was incensed by the decision to turn him down. Had cut down on my criticism of Williams and emailed now and then (and not in an abusive or overly critical way) but he damn sure got an angry message then!

Still at least Mancini's a big reason for United having one less League title!

[ABBEY]

Vinjay shove your city love and Utd hate where the sun don't shine !!! This is a rovers forum not a chuffing Manchester one . City & utd ? Who gives a flying turd !! Your like a Preston fan ... Pathetic !!!!

[Blue blood]

Oh aye, he definitely deserved some time, no question. I suppose the point I was making is that the teaching assistant committed the offence far more frequently than Johnson yet got no jail time, they've obviously made an example of Johnson with a trial by media. Painfully inconsistent.

Think we're agreeing here! Horribly inconsistent and the teaching assistant should have got time. As a professional who works with teenagers I can't believe she didn't. Perhaps there's a lack of premeditation bit even so it's hard to understand.

[Ribble Rover]

If you think it should be six years then I respect that view. Personally I think its too harsh even without taking other sentences/consistency into account.

As you say though it should be standard but it isn't. So Johnson has grounds to appeal on that basis. Even if he was genuinely sorry (which clearly he isn't) I expect he would still appeal it. Who would want to spend more time in prison than they might have to?

Indeed. Serious GBH and more violent sex crimes. Since most people use celebrities as examples there's some obvious comparisons. Age isn't a factor there's no age limit on prisoners. Unless they require lots of medical attention (as many old people do) which really shouldn't be the role of prisons and most likely isn't but I'm no expert. Or within the cost structure.

Legal Expert, Betting Expert, Football Expert......It's surprising you have time for us pezzies.......Is there no end to your expertise?

[VinjayV4]

Legal Expert, Betting Expert, Football Expert......It's surprising you have time for us pezzies.......Is there no end to your expertise?

I'll keep saying Venkys out and little else if that's what you want? I mean most of us agree but its not exactly offering different perspectives is it?

If you think it should be six years then I respect that view. Personally I think its too harsh even without taking other sentences/consistency into account.

As you say though it should be standard but it isn't. So Johnson has grounds to appeal on that basis. Even if he was genuinely sorry (which clearly he isn't) I expect he would still appeal it. Who would want to spend more time in prison than they might have to?

Indeed. Serious GBH and more violent sex crimes. Since most people use celebrities as examples there's some obvious comparisons. Age isn't a factor there's no age limit on prisoners. Unless they require lots of medical attention (as many old people do) which really shouldn't be the role of prisons and most likely isn't but I'm no expert. Or within the cost structure.

What's that say? NO EXPERT.

I'll go on the Extra thread and call terrorists scum 50 million times. True but its rather repetitive after a while isn't it?

Oh K-Hod's here. Who will he quote first me or Abbey? Hmmm...

[VinjayV4]

If you think it should be six years then I respect that view. Personally I think its too harsh even without taking other sentences/consistency into account.

As you say though it should be standard but it isn't. So Johnson has grounds to appeal on that basis. Even if he was genuinely sorry (which clearly he isn't) I expect he would still appeal it. Who would want to spend more time in prison than they might have to?

Indeed. Serious GBH and more violent sex crimes. Since most people use celebrities as examples there's some obvious comparisons. Age isn't a factor there's no age limit on prisoners. Unless they require lots of medical attention (as many old people do) which really shouldn't be the role of prisons and most likely isn't but I'm no expert. Or within the cost structure.

What's that say? NO EXPERT. Clown.

[K-Hod]

Vinjay shove your city love and Utd hate where the sun don't shine !!! This is a rovers forum not a chuffing Manchester one . City & utd ? Who gives a flying turd !! Your like a Preston fan ... Pathetic !!!!

Didn't Vinjay explain the City thing (with yet another very long post), i.e. he went to a couple of games with a pal once...

[VinjayV4]

Didn't Vinjay explain the City thing (with yet another very long post), i.e. he went to a couple of games with a pal once...

I'll talk in capitals, repeat the same thing over and over and be repeatedly vulgar instead shall I?

How he was allowed to have kids is beyond me.

[Stuart]

I'll talk in capitals, repeat the same thing over and over and be repeatedly vulgar instead shall I?

How he was allowed to have kids is beyond me.

Reprehensible. You disgusting individual.

[perthblue02]

Edit- removed posts, comment doesn't make sense anymore

[VinjayV4]

OK once again Abbey I sincerely apologise for mentioning Manchester United on a thread about the Premier League. I know mentioning United a couple of times a week is extremely distressing for you. I've also mentioned Aston Villa a lot too are you offended by that? If so I once again offer my sincerest apologies.

Oh by the way I know I post a lot (too much apparently despite it supposedly being a forum) but could you answer me a question? What are you trying to say here? I can't quite get your point.

Ribble I know the following is the epitome of scintillating analysis and debate. Therefore I post it as an apology and an example of what the ideal BRFCS poster should offer the forum.

YOU HAVE LET THE VENKYS WIN IF YOU DO THAT

I'd rather them die a million deaths than stay .

VENKYSCUM OUT

The club won't build with them . We may have a better chance with lambert but they don't give a crap .

Blame the fans just like Kean did then

blame the fans ?

Good this .. Life after Rhodes .

You reap what you sow ( won't mention him again on this thread) F off venkys ..

Speechless ... Them tossers have ruined everything Blackburn Rovers stand for but hooray they are rich .

Venkysout!!!!

Let's see who first to report me is this time

before vinjay says I don't say venkysout after a win...didn't post it last night as I had boxing on full screen and phone was flat..

WIN LOSE OR TIE VENKYS OUT BEFORE I DIE!!!!

venkys have more chance of solution solving than politicians to be fair.

No they don't... They deserve venkys

went home and straight to bed so dint post ...even if we win 3000000000-0 venkys out

VENKYS OUT

What about all the star players they got rid of was you there too?

Venkys out

Post in the rant thread gone as well .

Now we can't post in the rant thread about venkys ?

Why ?

Er venkys have killed it

there wont be a murmur. The only anger was 10 mins at the end of relegation night. It all the protesters fault don't ya know.

nah shout venkys out and you get looks like you are actually fred west on a building site.

Sorry mr Lambart but I shan't be wearing rovers stuff until venkys go . I shall be in Broncos gear .

#venkysout

Well you can boo all you want I don't give a crap what you think . I ain't buying anything extra that lines the venkys pockets. I stand my principles . I used to spend hundreds of pounds in there but I I'll buy my ticket and that's it . I won't buy shirts , hoodies , beer or bovril until they've gone . So stick your boo up your arse .

The scary thing is why anyone involved in football didn't know the venkys are complete @#/?wits!!

hes done right.

VENKYS OUT

whilst totally 1000000% agreeing with lambart my only thing is ,if he is genuinely surprised at how the lunes work then, is he naïve or an ostrich because everyone and anyone who knows footy know venkys are clueless.

bitter ?

1. hes a bitter little idiot with a massive chip on his shoulder. He has gobbed off about Preston bigger than Rovers . Hes a dirty overated player. At Preston he tried to get players sent off ..hes a turd. I dont want pondlife like him anywhere near the club. Oh so you knew him once ? good for you I knew Flitty once ,so what.

2. Gally was allowed the keys of Ewood after the sending off. Bitter fans ? where?

3.Pundits..They played the game ? these pundits are the ones who stuck up for Kean and co and blamed the fans.

4.Walkers tust fault? They sold us just like you or me sell a car and then someone runs it in the ground

5.Yesterday was Duffys fault, whover decided watt was fit to play and the ref.

6. VENKYS OUT

AND AS FOR HIS VENKY CELEBRATION

Remember that old ad watch out there's a Humphrey about ? Watch out there's venkys about

...and people called me obsessed with the Walker family and trustees. At least most of the board back Abbey with his frustrations.