mustard Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 Hanley played his poorest in that position. When Dann was here he played well on the left and he is doing so now and is looking more solid again. Because Dann was even more one-footed? Hanley also played terribly poor on the left side of a CB pairing with Duffy last season.
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tomphil Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 It shows how getting really fit can help, healthy body healthy mind. The lad was pissing and hangovering his promising career down the pan. He does struggle a few times coming across to the ball facing his own goal when it would be easier to sweep the ball out or lead into the tackle with his left he tends to check and toe it with his right. Stumbled a few times and nearly been caught out but he's fitter and quicker this season and as a result he concentrates far better. He can improve and it's good to see he's getting it together again. I'd have bounced him through the door last season. Early days yet so lets hope he keeps it up.
thenodrog Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 tbh mustard our CH's receive constant criticism as do our gk's, but the defensive weakness of our full backs accompanied sometimes by wide men who don't always track back must make life hell for our centre halves. Might be nice to see overlapping play but the plain fact is that a full backs primary role is too defend!!! Our main options in that dept are rubbish. Both Henley and Olsson are poor, Henley never will be up to the mark imo whilst Olsson is a failed winger. Seems to me that GB attempts to solve the issue by often playing two defensive midfielders but that simply results in a situation in which we have no strength further up the field and fatally allow the opposition too much time and possession in our half. We all know full well how brittle we are, we only need the opponents to step up a gear and we concede. We are a proper soft touch. If GB wants to keep his job our defensive weakness is what he must address first and foremost.
Backroom DE. Posted August 25, 2015 Backroom Posted August 25, 2015 If GB wants to keep his job our defensive weakness is what he must address first and foremost. So people have been saying for nearly 2 years now. Does Bowyer even consider it a problem?
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 tbh mustard our CH's receive constant criticism as do our gk's, but the defensive weakness of our full backs accompanied sometimes by wide men who don't always track back must make life hell for our centre halves. Might be nice to see overlapping play but the plain fact is that a full backs primary role is too defend!!! Our main options in that dept are rubbish. Both Henley and Olsson are poor, Henley never will be up to the mark imo whilst Olsson is a failed winger. Seems to me that GB attempts to solve the issue by often playing two defensive midfielders but that simply results in a situation in which we have no strength further up the field and fatally allow the opposition too much time and possession in our half. We all know full well how brittle we are, we only need the opponents to step up a gear and we concede. We are a proper soft touch. If GB wants to keep his job our defensive weakness is what he must address first and foremost. Is this the same Olsson that was player of the year ?
Rover_Shaun Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 That's the one. Like Cairney before him one half decent season doesn't make swallow
thenodrog Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Is this the same Olsson that was player of the year ? yes but not mine tbh. Eager and willing and the punters always favour that attitude but as I say he's not a natural defender, he's a failed winger because at this level push and run isn't enough. Seems you disagree DMTP?
JHRover Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Luton have announced that they will be getting about £1.1 million as their part of the sell on clause for Andre Grey. That's 20% of £5.5 million. So not quite the £9 million rumoured.
thenodrog Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Luton have announced that they will be getting about £1.1 million as their part of the sell on clause for Andre Grey. That's 20% of £5.5 million. So not quite the £9 million rumoured. Just Football club speak. Burnley will be adding his wages into the figure to make the total deal look exciting to their supporters. 5.5 million plus 1m pa comes to just short of the 9m total cost doesn't it?
Rover_Shaun Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Aren't sell on clauses a percentage of profit? That would equate to about 13% on 8.5m
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 yes but not mine tbh. Eager and willing and the punters always favour that attitude but as I say he's not a natural defender, he's a failed winger because at this level push and run isn't enough. Seems you disagree DMTP? I agree he isn't a natural defender - but IMO there is more to being a full back than purely defending. Due to his pace he creates a threat that very often pushes their winger back into their own half - his pace also allows him to get back when others can't (see Spurr in last home match). I think he is a reasonable left back for this level - he isn't Graeme Le Saux - but IMO he does a good job.
Commondore Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 tbh mustard our CH's receive constant criticism as do our gk's, but the defensive weakness of our full backs accompanied sometimes by wide men who don't always track back must make life hell for our centre halves. Might be nice to see overlapping play but the plain fact is that a full backs primary role is too defend!!! Our main options in that dept are rubbish. Both Henley and Olsson are poor, Henley never will be up to the mark imo whilst Olsson is a failed winger. Seems to me that GB attempts to solve the issue by often playing two defensive midfielders but that simply results in a situation in which we have no strength further up the field and fatally allow the opposition too much time and possession in our half. We all know full well how brittle we are, we only need the opponents to step up a gear and we concede. We are a proper soft touch. If GB wants to keep his job our defensive weakness is what he must address first and foremost. Top all this off with a determination to play a four man midfield, and you have yourself a defensively frail team almost regardless of who's playing. Bowyer had the right idea in converting to a variation of 4-5-1 in pre-season, it's a big shame that he hasn't stuck to his guns on that one.
T J Hooker Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Hi. No txt spk please and a bit more care in construction. Otherwise some people might think you are a bit thick. And people accuse me of being rude. good to have you back brfcrule1
Stuart Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Just Football club speak. Burnley will be adding his wages into the figure to make the total deal look exciting to their supporters. 5.5 million plus 1m pa comes to just short of the 9m total cost doesn't it? Does that mean that Rhodes was actually a bargain at £4m?
Feniscowles Blue Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Has James Vaughan signed yet or .. another crock
Damien Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Been watching the Luton v Stoke game and I have to say I have been impressed with Cameron McGeehan
chaddyrovers Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Been watching the Luton v Stoke game and I have to say I have been impressed with Cameron McGeehan What type of player is he?
thenodrog Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Top all this off with a determination to play a four man midfield, and you have yourself a defensively frail team almost regardless of who's playing. Bowyer had the right idea in converting to a variation of 4-5-1 in pre-season, it's a big shame that he hasn't stuck to his guns on that one. Jordan Rhodes ineptitude at playing up top on his own forces the 4-4-2 formation.
Damien Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Midfielder, 19 years old and been in everything. Good legs and finds space. I know we don't need that position... I just thought it was worth noting that players from lower divisions can be very good!
Athlete Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Jordan Rhodes ineptitude at playing up top on his own forces the 4-4-2 formation. What is your problem with JR
Damien Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 I don't think he has a problem... But Rhodes doesn't seem to be able to play up front in his own... I think he seems to look better with someone alongside him.
Athlete Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 I don't think he has a problem... But Rhodes doesn't seem to be able to play up front in his own... I think he seems to look better with someone alongside him.He's better with someone at his side or with service he scores goals end of.. But for some on here the golfer included it isn't good enough
tomphil Posted August 25, 2015 Posted August 25, 2015 Jordan Rhodes ineptitude at playing up top on his own forces the 4-4-2 formation. Ineptitude that saw him score 20 odd goals mostly up there on his own during the silly season of revolving managers. Goals that kept us in this division.
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