[Archived] Transfer Talk Part 4

[den]

Yes, and he wants to get out of it by signing a proven goalscorer.

So did we, but it failed.

[oldjamfan1]

Im pretty sure that if Rhodes was a proper full blooded born and raised Scot they'd build their national team around him.

I respectfully disagree TJ. He qualifies to play for Scotland, and that's all Strachan is interested in. He doesn't trust him up top on his own at that level, it really is that simple.

Is there a particular reason why you think 'Anglo' Scots are treated any differently?

[Salgado Is Still A Hero]

Im pretty sure that if Rhodes was a proper full blooded born and raised Scot they'd build their national team around him.

That's a load of nonsense I'm afraid. We just called up Matt Richie a few months ago who admitted that he has never even been to Scotland. We even had an Englishman as captain once a year or two ago (James Morrison, think he qualifies under the grandparents rule).

Strachan doesn't call up Rhodes because he wants the No 9 to be able to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Steven Fletcher might not be as prolific as Rhodes (even though Rhodes has never played at a decent level) but he exhibits those particular characteristics which Rhodes sorely lacks when he plays for Scotland.

He also calls up Leigh Griffiths instead who is slightly less clinical but at least has pace. In all honesty, Rhodes has looked fairly out of his depth at international level, and the only Scotland fans wanting him called up are the ones who are just going off his goalscoring record on wikipedia.

If Scotland played someone like Rhodes up top on his own away in countries like Germany or Poland, we'd get our proverbial arses handed to us.

[T J Hooker]

Sorry if i was wrong, its just thats the way it seems sometimes, especially when crud like boyd get so many caps

How have strachens tactics and team selections been working for you so far?

[Gav]

Dens absolutely right Gav. It was madness staking all that money on him. It's got us nowhere. Totally wasted. Now that money used to bring in half a team who could contribute for a full 90 minutes every game would have made us a far better side. Without Bowyer mind.

You can't have it both ways den.

You can't blame Rhodes for Singh buying him, Bowyer not being up to it, Venkys not bringing in a decent manager, embargo.

Rhodes scores 20 goals a season, i enjoy watching him score goals, its practically the only enjoyment we get as fans down at Ewood these days, well some us anyway.

[ABBEY]

Dens absolutely right Gav. It was madness staking all that money on him. It's got us nowhere. Totally wasted. Now that money used to bring in half a team who could contribute for a full 90 minutes every game would have made us a far better side. Without Bowyer mind.

We would have been relegate without his goals.. How many goals in a season would it take for the Rhodes hate to stop ? 30, 60 ?

[Blueandwhitemike]

Rhodes might be able to play in a 4-5-1 if we had the right players with him, Marshall hasn't taken to the role yet but the best we have played this season was that first 25 minutes versus Wolves

[K-Hod]

Dens backed himself into a corner over Rhodes.

His goal scoring record is the envy of every manager in this league and a few in the Premiership that can't quite afford him. For a supporter of 2015 Blackburn Rovers to think he's not good enough for us is living in cloud cuckoo land, and once he goes we'll see just how valuable he was.

Its madness to even be debating it

He's not the only one GAV, whilst Rhodes is far from the complete player, My God his shortcomings are nowhere near as bad as others' in the squad!

I still find it incredible that our fans are more concerned with lambasting Rhodes's faults than other absolute outhouses in the squad, but there you go.

The games he's been missing, you see exactly what the team are missing (i.e. someone to slot it in the onion bag!!)

All the comments from the Brighton and Cardiff games were about us being wasteful in front of goal, and the radio commentary I listened to seemed to suggest as much, as well as what I saw at the Cardiff match.

If Rhodes had been playing in either of those games, you can bet your life he'd have likely been more successful in front of goal!

All this talk of Rhodes not being able to play up front on his own is rubbish as well, if he had someone in the no.10 role to support him he'd be golden. It's not his fault our team is set up with one of the most negative midfields I've seen play in the blue and white halves.

[Stuart]

So did we, but it failed.

Rhodes didn't fail at his job. Check his goal record for the last five years.

Bowyer has certainly failed at his job. As Gav has said though, you've backed yourself into a corner.

Much like I have with Lowe...

...if someone ever offers over £10m (I'll be generous) £3m for him.

[Rover_Shaun]

3m turkish lira at the pre-devalue exchange rate

[SoldierMo]

I remember Rhodes being on fire when Dunn played in the hole.remember bolton at home when marshall made debut all the lad needs is service but hey GB and some fans have other thoughts

[frosty]

I remember Rhodes being on fire when Dunn played in the hole.remember bolton at home when marshall made debut all the lad needs is service but hey GB and some fans have other thoughts

That's when King was on fire too, at the start of that season. In fact most of our better performances under Bowyer have been when Dunn and King both played, or at least one of them. Shame he barely picked them.....

[tomphil]

Whenever there has been a good performance or two in an attacking formation or just playing more on the front foot he very quickly reverts to type despite the success. He's always been like that and it's been bizarre at times and one of the reasons I've always found him so frustrating. Ironic that 'give it a right good go' is his catchphrase seeing as apart from a five or ten min spell at the end of games we've mostly done anything but under him.

[den]

The games he's been missing, you see exactly what the team are missing (i.e. someone to slot it in the onion bag!!)

Can't believe you've said that KH. The best performances over the last couple of seasons have mostly been in the FA cup, when he's not played. King and Gestede have made a big difference there.

We would have been relegate without his goals.. How many goals in a season would it take for the Rhodes hate to stop ? 30, 60 ?

Well you'd better have a word with all those that have been saying recently that Bowyer kept us up - and come to a decision. Truth is of course, neither of them did anything of the sort. It's a "team" game.

[den]

Rhodes scores 20 goals a season, i enjoy watching him score goals, its practically the only enjoyment we get as fans down at Ewood these days, well some us anyway.

So do I, but you miss the point.

You get excitement when he scores. So do I, but I look at it from a business point of view - just as any owner/chairman would. For that kind of layout, in this league, there has to be a payback. The only payback suitable for that kind of money, is for it to be the icing on the promotion cake. No chairman in the right state of mind would pay a huge fee and a huge salary just for someone to score 20 goals a season in the championship.

Thing is, you know that, but because of the thrill you get from it, you can't find it in you, to simply say it.

I await your considered reply of bunkum and Abbeys considered reply of haters gonna hate.

[K-Hod]

Can't believe you've said that KH. The best performances over the last couple of seasons have mostly been in the FA cup, when he's not played. King and Gestede have made a big difference there.

Well you'd better have a word with all those that have been saying recently that Bowyer kept us up - and come to a decision. Truth is of course, neither of them did anything of the sort. It's a "team" game.

Why can't you believe it? We have looked wasteful without Rhodes in front of goal, we've no replacement as prolific!

Don't turn into Bowyer lamenting King and Gestede 'missing'!

That was last season, if we had King and Gestede here still it would be a different discussion! Even then, King has turned into Messi in some folks' eyes off the back or a couple of good games!

Haters gonna hate :-)

[mustard]

So do I, but you miss the point.

You get excitement when he scores. So do I, but I look at it from a business point of view - just as any owner/chairman would. For that kind of layout, in this league, there has to be a payback. The only payback suitable for that kind of money, is for it to be the icing on the promotion cake. No chairman in the right state of mind would pay a huge fee and a huge salary just for someone to score 20 goals a season in the championship.

Thing is, you know that, but because of the thrill you get from it, you can't find it in you, to simply say it.

I await your considered reply of bunkum and Abbeys considered reply of haters gonna hate.

Bottom line is den, with hindsight you talk of how we shouldn't have signed Rhodes, and should have spent that money elsewhere. You thus (seemingly) have/had faith that Kean, JA, Shebby, etc would have spent that £8mill better if they hadn't of signed Rhodes. You seem to think that had Rhodes not signed, we'd have found those 27 goals from elsewhere and would have performed better after presumably signing another Etuhu, Murphy and Best...

I don't believe this.

Nor do I believe, unlike you, if we were to sell Rhodes tomorrow, that Bowyer would replace him/strengthen the team to an extent that would see us perform at the same level or better. We keep Rhodes and we're likely still pretty screwed. We sell him and we are super-uber-screwed. I'd rather just be screwed.

[Gav]

So do I, but you miss the point.

You get excitement when he scores. So do I, but I look at it from a business point of view - just as any owner/chairman would. For that kind of layout, in this league, there has to be a payback. The only payback suitable for that kind of money, is for it to be the icing on the promotion cake. No chairman in the right state of mind would pay a huge fee and a huge salary just for someone to score 20 goals a season in the championship.

Thing is, you know that, but because of the thrill you get from it, you can't find it in you, to simply say it.

I await your considered reply of bunkum and Abbeys considered reply of haters gonna hate.

As a supporter you know as well as I do we can't influence business decisions, so why would you be bothered about that?

Did you feel the same way when we went down, Souness took over and John Williams took the decision to keep paying Premiership wages in the championship! did you heck, because thats not your concern as a supporter den, you're interested in the side doing well for 90 minutes when you've paid you £30.

You've had a downer on Rhodes for a while, mainly because all he does is score goals not because of some business decision.

[den]

As a supporter you know as well as I do we can't influence business decisions, so why would you be bothered about that?

Did you feel the same way when we went down, Souness took over and John Williams took the decision to keep paying Premiership wages in the championship! did you heck, because thats not your concern as a supporter den, you're interested in the side doing well for 90 minutes when you've paid you £30.

You've had a downer on Rhodes for a while, mainly because all he does is score goals not because of some business decision.

Silly comments Gav apart from the one about wanting "the side to do well".

Exactly.

[Gav]

Silly comments Gav apart from the one about wanting "the side to do well".

Exactly.

Just my opinion den

[den]

Of course Gav.

It's just football banter - as Jimmy Bullard would say.

[Ricky]

Is this the transfer thread????

[had.e.nuff]

How come spurs can sign a south korean footballer and we cant are work permits different for prem clubs

[Earlydoors]

Any transfer news?

[USABlue]

How come spurs can sign a south korean footballer and we cant are work permits different for prem clubs

It would seem so. Perhaps we should ask why?