[Archived] Bowyer Most Likely Not Sacked

[thenodrog]

He needs to be gone soon, it's sickening that he doesn't even seem to be under pressure.

Feel we are heading for a lesser Kean situation where we continue to regress with no danger of the manager changing and him getting more and more self assured.

What's the betting he makes sure he flies out to Pune next week?

Tom... I'm not really pro or against GB but you and lots of others appear to have conveniently forgotten that since 90/91 there are only 2 or possibly 3 managers out of a total of 12 that any sane person with a smidgeon of football knowledge would ever want to see back!

When a kid sticks his hand in the fire it burns and he doesn't do it again. Why do football supporters keep doing it? Be careful what you wish for.

[Darwen Rover 007]

Does anyone think bowyer might actually be relieved if he was sacked... Let's be honest he will definitely get another job and it'll likely be less restrictive than his current role?!

Doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who will smash through walls and would prefer an easier life...

I for one thank him for his work but now time to move on an get something we've not had for a while a PROPER manager!

[yoda]

Not that it really matters, as I couldn't hear the origin of the song or whatever, but I could clearly hear 'uncle jack's barmy army' from the Riverside and definitely not Gary Bowyer.

Imagine if Bowyer did actually have an army, if they were in his image it's probably safe to say they wouldn't be barmy!!

More like Italian, or worser French,

(I know it's not a word but I like it, like outrendous, which describes the club at the moment)

Tom... I'm not really pro or against GB but you and lots of others appear to have conveniently forgotten that since 90/91 there are only 2 or possibly 3 managers out of a total of 12 that any sane person with a smidgeon of football knowledge would ever want to see back!

When a kid sticks his hand in the fire it burns and he doesn't do it again. Why do football supporters keep doing it? Be careful what you wish for.

They don't, it is the owners/directors that do it

[chaddyrovers]

you really are a wind up merchant ..who is your favourite goalie at the moment Raya or Steele

Wind up merchant?

Its you are posting this types of comment to get reaction.

[thenodrog]

Makes me wonder if Myers and Shaw are picking the team or having a say because his hands in pocket , not arsed body language says that may be so .

No way. I'm prepared to believe that the big earners were not played and forced out but not now they've all gone, the only person who might be is balaji and he'd only pick one player to play every match wouldn't he?

[yoda]

Wind up merchant?

Its you are posting this types of comment to get reaction.

You just don't know when to stop

[Tom]

Tom... I'm not really pro or against GB but you and lots of others appear to have conveniently forgotten that since 90/91 there are only 2 or possibly 3 managers out of a total of 12 that any sane person with a smidgeon of football knowledge would ever want to see back!

When a kid sticks his hand in the fire it burns and he doesn't do it again. Why do football supporters keep doing it? Be careful what you wish for.

The point isn't about his successor but the fact he should be under extreme pressure.

Is it more likely that we will replace him with a dud? Yes probably and that's unfortunate and a risk but that shouldn't excuse his failings

[ABBEY]

Not that it really matters, as I couldn't hear the origin of the song or whatever, but I could clearly hear 'uncle jack's barmy army' from the Riverside and definitely not Gary Bowyer.

Imagine if Bowyer did actually have an army, if they were in his image it's probably safe to say they wouldn't be barmy!!

it would be french ,italian or swiss

[thenodrog]

Hardly Gordon, even the over forty's can remember maximum effort even though the quality was not there for a long time,

2nd half was high tempo and full of effort from both teams. It was quality that was missing.

The main thing that strikes me about people like Warburton, Howe etc is that they have a style of football for their teams. I reckon a lot of the stuff at Ewood is tailored to coach players individually to try and improve them but not as a team unit. Just obsessed with increasing individuals value first and foremost.

Warburtons team against us last year displayed an attention to detail, invention and lateral thinking that I have not seen since John Beck was at Cambridge.

[ABBEY]

More like Italian, or worser French,

(I know it's not a word but I like it, like outrendous, which describes the club at the moment)

They don't, it is the owners/directors that do it

i should read through before posting ha great minds

[tomphil]

2nd half was high tempo and full of effort from both teams. It was quality that was missing.

Warburtons team against us last year displayed an attention to detail, invention and lateral thinking that I have not seen since John Beck was at Cambridge.

Massive contrast in styles but yes I know what you mean.

[Stuart]

Tom... I'm not really pro or against GB but you and lots of others appear to have conveniently forgotten that since 90/91 there are only 2 or possibly 3 managers out of a total of 12 that any sane person with a smidgeon of football knowledge would ever want to see back!

When a kid sticks his hand in the fire it burns and he doesn't do it again. Why do football supporters keep doing it? Be careful what you wish for.

The decisions made by Jack Walker and the Walker Trust were made In the best interests of the club and aiming for success. If they got it wrong, it was usually because someone had left who had to be replaced. When they had time to choose and potter a failing manager, the replacement lined up was usually very good. But all of that is irrelevant. It's about what Venkys do now they have a decision to make of their own for the FIRST time.

I really cannot for the life of me think what happened at that 20 year anniversary do that you and those other secret society members got an invite to. It seems like you have been bought off or just sold out.

The very idea that out of the hundreds of registered football managers and those taking their badges that Bowyer is the ONLY possibly option for Rovers is ludicrous and prior to that OBN function you would have seen it the same way. I guess no club should ever sack a manager ever again.

Gordon, we are watching as out club hurtles towards League One. With Venkys are going nowhere - and if they did we will be in trouble - the only option to arrest the decline is to change the manager, and yet there seems to be a small clique of people who think that we should be clapping along to Bowyer and his magnificent tremendous right-good-going machine as they fall.

He has no idea about what to do to stop the rot. We need someone who does. Quick.

[roverandout]

No likes left so +1 stuart

[Mr. E]

When can we get the mods to code in the name "Bowyer" for any and all kinds of profanity, like before with Kean? I suppose we can't get rid of him, and I suppose he'll keep nonchalantly shrugging his shoulders and not giving a toss while we have to suffer, but we can at least do that. We should do it now until the day he gets the bowyer out of here.

[Feniscowles Blue]

Wind up merchant?

Its you are posting this types of comment to get reaction.

it's one or the other Chaddy.

You are either completely stupid or you are on the wind up. Which one?

[Neal]

Leeds currently demonstrating that despite how bonkers your owners are, if you appoint the right man you can do well in this league. Looked very good today.

[Damien]

Leeds currently demonstrating that despite how bonkers your owners are, if you appoint the right man you can do well in this league. Looked very good today.

They gave it a right good go...

Chris Wood did ever so well with that goal!

[DE.]

Leeds currently demonstrating that despite how bonkers your owners are, if you appoint the right man you can do well in this league. Looked very good today.

Whilst Derby are demonstrating the risks taken when you let a coach make the step up the manager.

[yoda]

2nd half was high tempo and full of effort from both teams. It was quality that was missing.

Warburtons team against us last year displayed an attention to detail, invention and lateral thinking that I have not seen since John Beck was at Cambridge.

It was more than quality missing, high tempo and full of effort ! if that is true we are royally screwed. One shot on target, Lostock Wanderers had more possession and were next to bottom of the league before the game and playing away.

[thenodrog]

Gordon, we are watching as out club hurtles towards League One. With Venkys are going nowhere - and if they did we will be in trouble - the only option to arrest the decline is to change the manager, and yet there seems to be a small clique of people who think that we should be clapping along to Bowyer and his magnificent tremendous right-good-going machine as they fall.

He has no idea about what to do to stop the rot. We need someone who does. Quick.

It's maybe a shock to you but I predicted this 5 years back. Hence I'm prepared.

Re: GB Up until this season he has had us in the top third of the table with a poor(ish) squad. Sure we haven't been promoted but he isn't alone there is he? What he has done is not done badly enough to be sacked.

We can't attract top quality players cos of the embargo and he has been working under adverse conditions in having to reduce the wage bill. However if we are in the bottom 3 by the end of Nov then it will prob be time for a move.

The decisions made by Jack Walker and the Walker Trust were made In the best interests of the club and aiming for success. If they got it wrong, it was usually because someone had left who had to be replaced. When they had time to choose and potter a failing manager, the replacement lined up was usually very good. But all of that is irrelevant. It's about what Venkys do now they have a decision to make of their own for the FIRST time.

It's not irrelevant at all in fact it's very relevant. A proper regime with a bulging wallet and a solid club in the Prem only managed to attract 2 maybe 3 top managers and 5 times as many duckeggs. What chance have we now we are skint and run by the venkys?

[AdamRochina]

Hoping to get back and see he has been sacked .....he's going nowhere ..end of it ...clueless club from top to bottom

[Rover_Shaun]

By the way chaddy, didn't you not so long ago say bowyer has never gotten us into the bottom 3 in his time here? Well that's another pro point you can't defend him with

He did that in his first 3 games after Appleton....albeit momentum but he was at the wheel

[Dunnfc]

They gave it a right good go...

Chris Wood did ever so well with that goal!

Players were magnificent this week

[Stuart]

It's maybe a shock to you but I predicted this 5 years back. Hence I'm prepared.

Re: GB Up until this season he has had us in the top third of the table with a poor(ish) squad. Sure we haven't been promoted but he isn't alone there is he? What he has done is not done badly enough to be sacked.

We can't attract top quality players cos of the embargo and he has been working under adverse conditions in having to reduce the wage bill. However if we are in the bottom 3 by the end of Nov then it will prob be time for a move.

It's not irrelevant at all in fact it's very relevant. A proper regime with a bulging wallet and a solid club in the Prem only managed to attract 2 maybe 3 top managers and 5 times as many duckeggs. What chance have we now we are skint and run by the venkys?

You've ignore my rebuttal to your duck egg suggestion but it's just more excuses, Gordon. The embargo is a pathetic reason to cite. It's like blaming a 9-0 defeat on that unfortunate deflected 8th goal in the 87th minute.

We have a squad that Bowyer assembled before the embargo, in spite of FFP being a known threat long before, and yet they still look like a disorganised, soft-centred rabble. There's not even any steel that we can point to. It's clear to your proverbial blind man on a galloping horse that Bowyer cannot organise and motivate his teams - and has picked enough different ones.

At what point will he have 'done badly enough to be sacked'? When we are relegated to League 2?

NO.

Even then there will be people saying it wasn't Bowyer's fault because he had to sell players, because his hands were tied, blah, blah. Expectation management is absolutely world class at Rovers, but it's those gullible, amnesiac and those complicit, sycophantic new-clothes-admiring fans that are accepting the downgrades whilst still believing 'we are where we are, there's no point in blaming or changing the manager' at every downhill milestone.

This guy is seemingly bulletproof, and we are heading towards a carbon copy of the Kean days - except a division lower. Is that what you want for BRFC?

It's one thing believing that Venkys will do nothing and we are stuck with him, it's another thing entirely trying to defend him as the best man for the job.

[Mercer]

Not fooled by Bowyer's seemingly relaxed demeanour.

Let's face it, if he goes, I would think, with compensation, he will have pocketed well in excess of £1million net since taking over the manager's reigns. I think most of us would be relaxed with that pot of money as he's made for life !