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[Archived] Ask Your Questions To Shaw, Myers, Bowyer


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Shaw also pointed out that if we come out of the embargo we'll be looking at signings of no more than £2m. Which kind of makes sense unfortunately - see Baz's post above. Gary wanted that in writing!

Basically Shaw and Myers will do nothing to rock the boat was my impression.

There was an impassioned plea from one guy for them to do more to get more fans back in the ground, that they aren't doing enough. It was a great point and he spoke very well.

One lass had a rant at keyboard warriors who were very quiet on the night.

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There were several good points about re-engaging fans. Thought the lad from Accrington put his points across very well. We do need the fairweather fans. It has always been thus despite what 'Terry' thinks. He needs to take his own advice about a reality check.

I couldn't help but warm to Bowyer and I have been one of his biggest critics. The point was raised about him being outhought by other managers and over rotation which he ducked a little. Overall though he seems a good bloke.

Shaw on the other hand is one incompetent half wit who doesnt read things before he signs them.

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I think I come away more disillusioned than before.

I Asked about Venkys and when they last communicated.

SHAW : "little dialogue other than they would like promotion."

I pressed shaw.. "so no expectations, plan or real targets ?"

SHAW: "Promotion or playoffs"

I asked about the rational behind the burnley pricing and myers muttered an answer about FFP.

Fair play to the lad from Accrington for readressing the issue.

Fact is, there is no real plan of action.

Other than some platitudes about how great a club we are and how passionate we are as fans, there was very little substance in their answers, and nothing to really give me hope.

The plan looks to be make as much money as possible from moving as many players in and out of the club as is possible loading more debt onto the club in the process for some other bugger to pick up after they've fled.

No wonder the crowds are sub 10k

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The plan looks to be make as much money as possible from moving as many players in and out of the club as is possible loading more debt onto the club in the process for some other bugger to pick up after they've fled.

No wonder the crowds are sub 10k

I honestly don't think we have a plan.

I now have a plan of telling Del to sign my £50k a week 20 year contract as I have doubts he has learnt yet that he should ask the clubs solicitors and not the accountants to check the contracts he signs (but definitely isn't accountable for).

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Exclusive footage of Derek explaining the Best and Etuhu deals

Can't wait for the full video of the meeting to hit the screens. Going from that clip Derek is thinner, better dressed and a much better public speaker than expected.

Thanks to all who are posting about the Q&A, taking the positive there were no punches thrown??

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Who said that we need gates of 20,000 just to compete in this league?

That is complete nonsense.

Of the 24 clubs in this league on 6/7 regularly get home gates of 20,000+. They are Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby, Brighton, Wolves and possibly Forest.

All of the other 17-18 clubs get gates in the 10,000-15,000 range just like we do, with some getting less.

Its just another excuse to justify less spending and failure to comply with FFP. Its amazing because in the last few years we have seen Burnley, Blackpool, Watford, Bournemouth all get promotion from this league with similar/smaller gates than us and with smaller wagebills and poorer infrastructure.

Its also another step towards trying to convince people that we are a small club that are doing well to even survive at this level, when that is again nonsense.

I would have liked questions to Shaw/Myers on:

  • Why is the corporate side of the club in such a shambolic state? Why do we have 20 executive boxes which are all empty on matchdays and Jack's Kitchen which is often also empty? How can so many other clubs, Burnley being an example, find customers to occupy their boxes yet we can't?
  • Why does the club appear to have given up on the need for more sponsors? Having secured the lucrative deal with Dafabet it now seems to be a case of 'job done' rather than continuing to work hard to bring as much income as possible in. Even if this means renaming parts of the stadium.
  • Why has the club agreed to play Derby on a Wednesday, less than 3 days before the Burnley home game, which means that Burnley will have an additional 24hrs recovery and preparation time over ourselves? Derby play on Sky on Sunday lunchtime - if we had left the original fixture on the Tuesday night then Derby would have had the same 2.5 days window that we are now getting. Now Derby get 3.5 days between games and the knock on is we only get 2.5 days. Disgraceful from whoever allowed that to take place.
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observations.

They haven't heard from the owners for around three weeks.

During the season, the owners just let them get on with things.

The owners are busy with other business interests.

No targets set, but they (the owners) would "like" promotion.

Club set to lose just under 20 mill

One player sale of under 5 mill should see us out of embargo.

If we start spending again, we'll be back in it.

Need gates of 20000 to be able to compete in this league.

Shaw signs contracts without reading them and because he was told to. (already done that). Well actually he did read the the Best and Etuhu contracts, thought they were outrageous, but signed them because he was told to. He was told the Berg contract was the same as Keans (even though it wasn't) so signed it without reading it.

Bowyer thinks everything is down to bad luck, or occasional defensive lapses. Nothing to do with actually playing badly.

In my opinion, I saw nothing from anyone (owners/Myers/Shaw/Bowyer) that suggests any of 'em have the abilities or know how - to move us forwards.

So in essence then the owners aren't really interested and those 3 run the show (with a token lackey Pune spy allegedly doing whatever).

A relatively small sum of £5 million will get us out of FFP but what's the point.

Shaw is a f-wit nobody and Bowyer is still in denial.

All is well as we sail South. :(

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Brilliant!

Well that was sort of interesting. What did I learn?

Myers can talk for England. Like a politician.

It's incredible how little Derek actually knows, as though he's some sort of puppet who just signs things off and makes a few quid on the side. I was particularly impressed in how he absolved himself from blame with the Leon Best contract as it as his first day in the job. Well done Derek.

I warmed to Bowyer immensely. Not the greatest public speaker ever but so what? Nobodys fool.

‘There is a shambles at the heart of the club. The owners, based abroad, are in direct conflict with a managing director who is in de facto control of the club and who continues to act without authority and in his self interest,’ he said. ‘The owners are seeking to exercise control but are being frustrated in doing so.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2315454/Blackburn-admit-shambles-Henning-Berg-court-case.html#ixzz3oVf0IivD

Glad to see Desai and the Rao's took action after that fiasco, NOT!, surely now they are in control of the club without influence from their project partners who Degsy has never met, they can take action after effectively last night the MD has again called them liars ? or is Degsy's contract cough cough thought to be the same as Kean's? Over to you Desai!

Nice of Alan to mention the bad press from his previous employers among others, in their attempt to protect their pundit suppliers investment opportunity. No apology for his save Steve Kean rant at Brockhall a couple of days after relegation though, when the bigger story was brushed over, That selective amnesia is a bugger

That gravy at Ewood must be bloody addictive

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It was an interesting evening and credit to those who organised it.

There was no screening of questions and at times Andy Bayes face was a picture

Bowyer came across well, genuine, heart on sleeve, wanted the club to do well for everyone. He was honest and tried to add a bit of humour. It is a results business and I genuinlly want him to get them. In five years of venkys he is one who can hold his head high, as he would never do the fans or club a wrong turn .

Myers spoke very well, he understood the frustrations and was very apologetic at what had gone on before his time. He felt that the club had progressed from the dark era of kean , singh and agnew. Having covered those days as a reporter he felt he understood where the fans were coming from .

He didnt want to devalue the product , but knew it was going to be a mammoth task to get supporters to return. He appeared to be trying very hard and in fairness to him whatever he does wont please all, however he is a marked improvement on what has been at Ewood since it started getting dismantled.

Shaw, well he is just on another planet. It was everyones fault but Derricks, he said he just did as he was told. As i told him, he is just living the dream and should be nowhere near running a football club.

I felt as I was leaving that if we gotva figurehead running the club instead of Shaw, that it may come back together.

I think Myers and Bowyer should continue with what they are trying to do, but their efforts may reap fruits if Shaw is removed and a real leader is put at the head of the table.

Sadly the night was ruined by a couple of idiots shouting other peoples opinions down. Then another one raging a foul mouthed rant which broughtva premature end to proceedings.

Many of the shout downs arose from those who were of the opinion, follow the club regardless, things are good at present and the club was heading this way pre venkys.

It reminded me of the protest ,when protesters were shot down.

That part of our support remains and i was embarrassed to be sat not too far away from the main protagonist.

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I know Terry from the Ewood Blues, he goes everywhere watching the club and is a good bloke (honestly).

However, he is from a section of the fanbase that will not accept anything but unwavering support- my view is that supporting a club is about wanting the best for it, if that means supporting the removal of a manager, chairman whatever then so be it (a last resort of course, because we all want 'stability').

But fans like Terry believe that you get behind the owners and manager END OF, until a new manager or owner arrives, then you get behind them.

Those two viewpoints will never merge.

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One lass had a rant at keyboard warriors who were very quiet on the night.

Ha, yeah, that was quite funny. There were two of us there at least - me and Baz!

So, this is just my opinion and others will no doubt disagree, but........

The three of them got some quite difficult questions. Myers was told that he wasn't doing enough to communicate with fans, especially the 10000 who had stopped going, or doing enough to sell private boxes to local business. Shaw was criticised severely for his part in signing contracts that had cost the club millions and Bowyer was taken to task about the poorer displays, team selections etc, etc.

myers believed that basically they were doing all they could to attract fans and businesses. Bowyer flatly refuses to accept any criticism of performance/team selection etc, while Shaw blamed Shebby Singh for everything. It might be that they weren't expecting the criticisms and that caused them to get all defensive. It might be that in reality they aren't quite so negative against alternative suggestions, but they didn't come over that way to me.

Sometimes it's good to say "you know what, you're right, we could and should be doing better". I didn't really hear that and that's why I'm not optimistic about the club turning the corner right now.

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One more comment that people might be interested in.

Shaw reckons that it needs 17 clubs to vote in favour of throwing out FFP. Originally there were three clubs against it, but he believes there are now 14 clubs against it. He thinks it will get thrown out at some point in the future.

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Terry is a decent guy who is Rovers to the core.

Unfortunately that's not the impression he's left on the other guests according to some of the comments, I can only comment on his behaviour that was reported on here....

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I know Terry from the Ewood Blues, he goes everywhere watching the club and is a good bloke (honestly).

However, he is from a section of the fanbase that will not accept anything but unwavering support- my view is that supporting a club is about wanting the best for it, if that means supporting the removal of a manager, chairman whatever then so be it (a last resort of course, because we all want 'stability').

But fans like Terry believe that you get behind the owners and manager END OF, until a new manager or owner arrives, then you get behind them.

Those two viewpoints will never merge.

Whilst respecting your opinion, as far as i'm concerned Terry ruined the night for other people and made the fans look a mockery in front of the panel. If I was Shaw, Myers or Bowyer theres not a chance i'd be having another Q&A, some of the fans of this club frankly are not capable of having a serious Q&A without it descending into insults and abuse.

I walked out last night - after listening to Terry abuse anybody that disagreed with him (whether he had the microphone or not) and watching the young lad at the front who was more interested in fighting - thinking if thats a true reflection of our 'fans' then I actually TRUST Shaw (a man who admitted he didn't read Berg's contract and signed Leon Best's contract despite knowing it was the wrong thing to do) more than I would trust fan ownership. Their behaviour was frankly disgusting.

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Terry is a decent guy who is Rovers to the core.

Terry is an arsehole Parson, Rovers to the core or not. Sounds like he acted like one last night also and spoilt the final part of the evening.

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I wasn't there, my point mainly being that some fans will kick off royally if you try and even attempt to criticise the club, not my approach but there you go.

It's a pity they never kicked off when the club really needed it, they decided to target the protesters, which sums them up for me.

Sorry, I'm going off topic I know.

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