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I don't think Deschamps has it in him to win the tournament. He's already come close to ballsing up the first two matches against teams that weren't able to punish them - they may make the semis, largely on the back of having home team momentum, but I can't see them getting any further than that.

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Its funny, people are already talking about France as potential winners, but if England had relied on last minute goals to beat Romania and Albania the knives would be out.

Yep. Remember the scathing the team got when they beat Trinidad and Tobago with 2 late goals in 2006.

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Country specialising in wums and pranksters.

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Violence between Russian and English soccer fans at the UEFA 2016 European Championship in France has shocked the game's supporters across the world with its brutality. In Russia, leading media outlets zeroed in on reports by a pair of purported British soccer journalists about English fans stoking the mayhem with "disgusting" behavior.

The state-owned RT network cited a Tweet by "British sports journalist Simon Rowntree" stating that English fans called their Russian counterparts "commie scum" and chanted a crude reference to Russian tennis star Maria Sharapova, who was recently banned for two years for taking performance-enhancing substances.

It then cited tweets by "another member of the British media, Martyn Macintyre," stating that two English fans wiped "their bottoms with a Russian flag. No wonder Russian fans responded so angrily."

http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-media-duped-fake-journalists-soccer-hooligans/27800910.html

Some news outlets picked up though, that these were fake.

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Quite a few of these pundits are picking France: http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36417119

They can't be called a "dark horse" because they've won it 2 straight times but I think Spain has a good shot to win it again.

And Germany is probably the safest pick to me, if one is betting.

Germany, France, Spain and Italy were always fairly reliable picks. I put my money (each way) on Slovakia - I just thought 150/1 was a ridiculous price for a team that has recently beaten both Spain and Germany. Losing to Wales looked to have scuppered that, but they could still scrape a third place qualification with a draw against us next week.

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I've been thinking about the whole question of football violence rather than who is to blame. GAV said there are 30,000 fans in Marseille and I'm sure I read before the tournament 100,000 British fans will travel to France with or without tickets.

From watching a variety of videos it seems there are large numbers of England fans who travel to France with the main intention of drinking vast quantities of alcohol in the street, singing, chanting etc. I wonder if they have an inkling that this behaviour is alien to the French and confirms the image of English football fans. Whether it's the true image or not that is the result.

Huge crowds of drunk young men in a foreign city will only have one result. It surely cannot come as a surprise? Anyone who really wants to go should simply avoid th situation.

I don't blame any set of fans in anyway I just know this was always going to happen. To avoid it people have to behave.

As for the French police again no surprise. The riot police don't hang about. Anyone who wants to mess with them can expect a very strong response. It may be alien to us but it's their country and their rules.

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I've been thinking about the whole question of football violence rather than who is to blame. GAV said there are 30,000 fans in Marseille and I'm sure I read before the tournament 100,000 British fans will travel to France with or without tickets.

From watching a variety of videos it seems there are large numbers of England fans who travel to France with the main intention of drinking vast quantities of alcohol in the street, singing, chanting etc. I wonder if they have an inkling that this behaviour is alien to the French and confirms the image of English football fans. Whether it's the true image or not that is the result.

Huge crowds of drunk young men in a foreign city will only have one result. It surely cannot come as a surprise? Anyone who really wants to go should simply avoid th situation.

I don't blame any set of fans in anyway I just know this was always going to happen. To avoid it people have to behave.

As for the French police again no surprise. The riot police don't hang about. Anyone who wants to mess with them can expect a very strong response. It may be alien to us but it's their country and their rules.

There is plenty of footage out there of fans of other countries doing the same - just without the police sitting nearby in riot gear trying to provoke a different mood. If you treat people like criminals they will behave like one.

This is all about France '98.

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Was with a group of Hungarians when they beat Austria- their delight was what football is all about.

A drunk English woman decided to get offensive towards a group of Austrians at the next table and thankfully the staff acted quickly to have her removed.

Very much looking forward to England v Wales with the result anybody's guess. Coleman will be praying for Woy to have learnt nothing from the Wussian game...

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There is plenty of footage out there of fans of other countries doing the same - just without the police sitting nearby in riot gear trying to provoke a different mood. If you treat people like criminals they will behave like one.

This is all about France '98.

Agree about 98, the police have been told to crack down on the English due to past exploits, hence no Russians being arrested in Marseilles despite being the aggressors. I don't think the police are causing the situations, but they're not helping it either.

You've now got half the worlds press sat in Lille waiting for any sort of newsworthy action, be it dropped crisp packets, old man falling over or spilt soup, it'll be in the papers or on the web in a variety of formats mostly inaccurate much like the the reporting of trouble from the weekend.

Thousands of Rovers fans will travel away next season, many pubs will be taken over for a sing song and some will drink to much, some will be arrested.

European resorts will see thousands of British men and women descend on them for holidays in July and August, people will drink in the street, sing, get drunk and get arrested.

You can't condone bottle throwing, which seems to be the biggest substantiated allegation aimed at England fans so far, 36 various nationalities arrested overnight apparently with 80,000 football fans in the city, would hardly make the news on most days would it?

England fans have been involved in very little trouble since 2002, nothing at the last 3 tournaments, now all of a sudden we're once again the worst fans in Europe?

Media nonsense, they've been telling lies for years, why stop now when it sells papers and the public lap it up.

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His national team coach says he's too good for Napoli and deserves a bigger move. I would agree.

There aren't that many bigger clubs than Napoli in Europe really. Only Bayern, Real and Barca. Fair enough he'd get more money at PSG, City etc but I probably wouldn't leave Napoli for any other than the aforementioned tbh.
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