[Archived] Bowyer Sacked

[DE.]

It's worked as well, he seems to have managed to brainwash people that should know better.

Listening to a clip of one of the national radio stations that even bothered to give us a mention tonight and the response is:

" Gary Bowyers had a transfer embargo.............he's not been able to bring anybody in..........what is he supposed to do???!!!.....What are you supposed to deliver with those kind of resources."

Guest 2:

"Expectations have to be realistic................Gary Bowyer's had nothing to work with..... so what results do they expect.......... people get impatient, people's expectations are too high."

So I look these two up thinking they might be the usual Premier League only morons, but no, one is a Boro fan that used to work on The Football League show FFS, and the other is a lower league manager of Luton Town.

Are you kidding me?! Not been able to bring anyone in - other than 30 odd players, nothing to work with - other than two 20 goal a season strikers, a championship squad littered with internationals, some of the best facilities in the league to make use of. Expectations too high - what, to be in the top half of the table and perhaps within reach of a play-off spot.

Go shove it up your backsides you pair of clueless, ill informed numpties.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06qcmv3

36.30 min in if anyone cares, or wants to get as angry as I am.

He's not had a bad squad to work with at all during his time here. Steele, Baptiste, Hanley, Kilgallon, Duffy, Olsson, Marshall, Cairney, Conway, Rhodes, Gestede... all good enough for this division. Our biggest problem has been CM, a position he failed to address until this summer. He's also never had to deal with Rhodes being out long term, except at the start of this season when we couldn't win a game to save our lives.

It's fair to say he probably hasn't had the support from above that other managers may have, but he has been allowed to surround himself with his own staff and largely go about his day to day business without any hassle.

As for the embargo - we all knew it was coming at least a year before it actually hit. He should have used his resources at that time to address the weaker areas of our squad (RB, CM) rather than bring in the likes of Paul Taylor, Chris Brown and Luke Varney.

I saw a headline that read "Bowyer sacked after less than three years". Less than three years?! That's far more than most managers get! Especially those who fail their targets - remember that the playoffs were GB's target, by his own admission, in both previous seasons.

[Neal]

Bloody hell... Just got in from work to see the news!

HURRRRRAAAAAAAHHHH!

Beer time.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Ok 2 points. Not the million miles that a few suggest on here.

Let's forget the owners and everything that's gone on, let's celebrate a man who has worked for over ten years at our club getting the bullet. God bless The cretins

Such is a managers lot. He has struggled this year.

[only2garners]

Yup he went back over a week ago.

It is Diwali festival in India so the sacking of Bowyer will have been approved days ago and I suspect the next manager has also been chosen and left to advisors/Shelfie to tie up the contracts etc as the owners will be busy with Diwali.

But not the adviser though if it's the one I'm thinking of.

[Exiled in Toronto]

A surprise but not a shock. Things have been different since the summer when the owners didn't meet with Bowyer, then sending over the ex-Indian FA guy to kick the tyres.

Personally I think Bowyer had sold them a three year plan when he got the job full time. The start to this season is the first time objectively we've really gone backwards so time to call time on Gary and his plan.

The decision, and paying off five contracts just like that negates 90% of the groupthink on here about what's been going on with the owners, Gary being untouchable etc etc.

Lambert and a cohesive setup sounds a good call. He knows what it takes to get out of this division, which I suspect is a lot more than "being organised", and he will show whether or not this squad is Top 6. Personally I think it isn't so I think the best we can hope for is a strong push next year.

[JHRover]

The rules are different when it comes to Blackburn Rovers.

When Rotherham, Charlton, Leeds, Huddersfield, Fulham and QPR all opt to make changes sooner than we did there was no national condemnation. Leeds and Charlton attributed to idiot owners, but the others presumably well within their rights to fire their managers when they want. One or two comments about Powell and Ramsey because of their skin colour, but presumably Fulham are entitled to expect better even though Symons has had 18 months less in the job and inherited a poorer situation than Bowyer.

Now we make a change and all the numpties are talking rubbish on the radio, the Guardian makes reference to 'less than 3 years' (well above average for this league) and Sky Sports/BBC reference that he's the 8th manager to be sacked in the Championship, as though that is relevant to our situation,

[West Yorks Rover]

Ok 2 points. Not the million miles that a few suggest on here.

Let's forget the owners and everything that's gone on, let's celebrate a man who has worked for over ten years at our club getting the bullet. God bless The cretins

And been bloody well paid for it, what do want ? us all to feel sorry for him ? he'll get a new job soon enough and be overpaid there too, that's football !

In the real world he'd be very lucky to command £25-30k pa.

[AllRoverAsia]

Ok 2 points. Not the million miles that a few suggest on here.

Let's forget the owners and everything that's gone on, let's celebrate a man who has worked for over ten years at our club getting the bullet. God bless The cretins

...............................for buying Rhodes whose goals kept us up that season??

[joey_big_nose]

And been bloody well paid for it, what do want ? us all to feel sorry for him ? he'll get a new job soon enough and be overpaid there too, that's football !

In the real world he'd be very lucky to command £25-30k pa.

Don't talk complete balls. He's been under massive pressure trying to handle a club on terminal decline with absentee clueless owners and a crowd of thousands on hand to examine and criticise the fruits of his labours on a weekly basis.

I sincerely doubt you will have ever had or will have to deal with that sort of pressure.

He's come up short but let's not pretend running a football club is an easy job. It patently isn't, even if you have a decent board and ownership which he hasnt.

[scotty_beam_me_up]

I try not to get too worried by the media. Tomorrow Adrian Durham will be slagging off Rovers fans for hounding out a manager but this comes from a guy who hounds out Wenger every day. What would 99.9% of fans give for the success that man has brought.

Even though I think it's the right decision I won't be celebrating too much. I like Bowyer. I thought he was quick witted at the Q&A and I warmed to him. He seemed like a decent guy. However most successful managers are not nice guys.

My biggest regret and maybe his will be that he never really went for it. I know his catchphrase was "my boys gave it a real good go" but I don't think they ever did. Too many uninspiring draws and performances when you really felt they were playing within themselves.

The strange substitutions and rotating of the squad left me baffled.

I hope he gets another job and makes a good fist of it.

[Neal]

Just starting to sink in. Shame he didn't just resign, his stock would of been higher. Appreciate him keeping us up but he was never a Blackburn Rovers manager, sounds childish but you can't have a man in charge who's been defeated twice off Burnley. The majority of football I witness from him was absolute garbage, the guys wasn't bad at finding a player but absolutely terrible at everything else.

Was speaking to an Everton scout tonight, knows Bowyer well, said he's not a manager and was very lucky to get the opportunity. He said he's also friends with Moyes' family and that he wouldn't rule it out. He said be careful with wanting Moyes because tactically he's not very good and makes uninspiring substations (Bowyer anyone?).

Why oh why didn't we do this in the summer and appoint the fella who was the right man for the job? Mark Warburton would have had us around the playoff places and playing attractive football, absolutely no doubt about. Happy tonight but also gutted at the same time, Warburton was easily the obvious choice, intelligent, good football, good with youth, ambitious... Would have been out Sean Dyche.

[West Yorks Rover]

Don't talk complete balls. He's been under massive pressure trying to handle a club on terminal decline with absentee clueless owners and a crowd of thousands on hand to examine and criticise the fruits of his labours on a weekly basis.

I sincerely doubt you will have ever had or will have to deal with that sort of pressure.

He's come up short but let's not pretend running a football club is an easy job. It patently isn't, even if you have a decent board and ownership which he hasnt.

Massive pressure ?

That's the point, he's probably not been under enough pressure, the owners being 5,000 miles away and seemingly leaving him and his mates

to run things the way they want, he's been able to build his own little empire with little interference and almost no hassle from the fans.

So maybe folk like you need to think about that, and stop talking out of your arse.

[Jock]

Thank God he's gone.

It was like Neil Sedaka pretending to be straight.

[Speedie Dived]

And been bloody well paid for it, what do want ? us all to feel sorry for him ? he'll get a new job soon enough and be overpaid there too, that's football !

In the real world he'd be very lucky to command £25-30k pa.

It's called respecting people who play/manage for our club. His youth work alone deserves credit.

People were actively celebrating his demise and not mentioning the owners.

Don't worry though, the next messiah will sort everything out.

But not the adviser though if it's the one I'm thinking of.

See this is a huge point. Who has advised them to sack him? Who is sticking their nose into football business?

[Jock]

It's called respecting people who play/manage for our club. His youth work alone deserves credit.

People were actively celebrating his demise and not mentioning the owners.

Don't worry though, the next messiah will sort everything out.

I understand your comment but as someone who earns £18000 a year ( and that's all I'm worth, if that) I don't think he should feel hard done too, especially as he talks about us being under stones. The customer is always right and the customer wanted him out. He's been rightly paid well and theres no hard feelings. He can always get another job.

[Iceman]

well good, his gone. i do feel for him though, and as good a guy that Bowyer is, he just didnt have what it takes to be a manager. He was never a manager to begin with anyway. That said, i wish the bloke all the best for the future. Hopefully he can get something else, maybe another academy post somewhere.

imo the 3 stand out candiates are Pearson, Lambert and Moyes

[Iceman]

too much of a coincidence, that as soon as Moyes was sacked, Bowyer was sacked. maybe i am reading too much into that, but its very likely that Rovers had made contact with Moyes weeks ago already, with Moyes knowing his fate at Sociedad.

Lambert is a good option anyway, but if we mess up this appointment, with Pearson, Lambert, Moyes available, then Shaw and his goons will have to pack their bags and get lost

[matt83]

It's worked as well, he seems to have managed to brainwash people that should know better.

Listening to a clip of one of the national radio stations that even bothered to give us a mention tonight and the response is:

" Gary Bowyers had a transfer embargo.............he's not been able to bring anybody in..........what is he supposed to do???!!!.....What are you supposed to deliver with those kind of resources."

Guest 2:

"Expectations have to be realistic................Gary Bowyer's had nothing to work with..... so what results do they expect.......... people get impatient, people's expectations are too high."

So I look these two up thinking they might be the usual Premier League only morons, but no, one is a Boro fan that used to work on The Football League show FFS, and the other is a lower league manager of Luton Town.

Are you kidding me?! Not been able to bring anyone in - other than 30 odd players, nothing to work with - other than two 20 goal a season strikers, a championship squad littered with internationals, some of the best facilities in the league to make use of. Expectations too high - what, to be in the top half of the table and perhaps within reach of a play-off spot.

Go shove it up your backsides you pair of clueless, ill informed numpties.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06qcmv3

36.30 min in if anyone cares, or wants to get as angry as I am.

I wouldn't let it bother you too much. I'd be surprised if any of that panel has seen 1 solitary minute of live football with rovers this season. If they had they may have seen a manager totally out of his depth a man who wasted 2 seasons when not under an embargo etc etc.

Funny how when we had a 40 goal strike force last season none of these panels were saying how mid table was pathetic. It's an old boys club to a man they stick up for each other.

It pains me to say it but venkys have made the right decision here if a little late. Just hope they don't mess it up with another kean, berg, Appleton, bowyer esq appointment.

[Paul]

Was speaking to an Everton scout tonight, knows Bowyer well, said he's not a manager and was very lucky to get the opportunity. He said he's also friends with Moyes' family and that he wouldn't rule it out. He said be careful with wanting Moyes because tactically he's not very good and makes uninspiring substations (Bowyer anyone?).

I think there could be some truth in this. During our time in the PL Everton was always one of the more boring teams to watch. Moyes tactical approach always seem to be protect the point he started the game with, nick a goal if possible and protect the lead. I can't recall any game at Ewood when Everton set out to win.

I'm not against him but I'm not sure he's the right choice.

His time at Old Trafford is difficult to assess. It was a huge surprise Fergusson recommended him and the man to follow Fergusson was almost bound to fail.

An even bigger quandry to who should replace bowyer....where's parson? Hiding under a stone??

I do hope you didn't criticise Bowyer for making the same remark about Rovers fans.

[1864roverite]

We have done nothing but regress this season, its been atrocious at times.

This is the oomph start to our season that he so often wanted alas he wont be part of it nor will his back room team.

Smells like we have a Venkys plan, lets hope its a well thought out one with a proper manager and team in place.

Also says to me Venkys are here to get the club back on its feet properly. Any good manager can work with the players we have and make the top 6.

[Iceman]

I think there could be some truth in this. During our time in the PL Everton was always one of the more boring teams to watch. Moyes tactical approach always seem to be protect the point he started the game with, nick a goal if possible and protect the lead. I can't recall any game at Ewood when Everton set out to win.

I'm not against him but I'm not sure he's the right choice.

His time at Old Trafford is difficult to assess. It was a huge surprise Fergusson recommended him and the man to follow Fergusson was almost bound to fail.

I do hope you didn't criticise Bowyer for making the same remark about Rovers fans.

some excellent candidates to be fair, but imo Pearson, Lambert are the 2 i really want. Moyes would be good one as well, but the other 2 have done it in this league

We have done nothing but regress this season, its been atrocious at times.

This is the oomph start to our season that he so often wanted alas he wont be part of it nor will his back room team.

Smells like we have a Venkys plan, lets hope its a well thought out one with a proper manager and team in place.

Also says to me Venkys are here to get the club back on its feet properly. Any good manager can work with the players we have and make the top 6.

it had to happen at some point, okay years and years too late. But if they get this appointment right, then somebody with brains have actually made a proper decision with getting rid of Bowyer. My question is still, who is the person with that brain, that made this decision. Did Balaji step in here and over rule his sister? He has always been the one who seemed at all interested, but always everywhere one read, it was the Madame that said otherwise.

but, im sure this decision was made by Shaw, the minute Moyes was sacked, or on the verge of being sacked. It just cannot be a coincidence as i said earlier, because we dont make these sort of swift cut throat decisions, just so in the spur of the moment. It normally takes ages!

[K-Hod]

not unless you know where we were going to finish this season?

Also the statement 'Gb has taken us backwards' suggests we're worse off than when we took over. Only an idiot would think that.

I'm taking about league positions and what happens on the pitch, in that vein the stats are there in black and white, we have regressed.

Nobody is saying he didn't stabilise the club, but he couldn't dine out on that forever and his rein went on for about 18 months too long.

There really is no need to be rude and label everyone an idiot that doesn't agree with you either.

[Mike Graham]

not unless you know where we were going to finish this season?

Also the statement 'Gb has taken us backwards' suggests we're worse off than when we took over. Only an idiot would think that.

I don't know what games you have been watching blueboy but this team has regressed under GB. The football served up last season and this is very very poor, so bad that even more fans have been walking away from Ewood. One of my mates left after 70 mins on Saturday he was that disgusted with the 'football' served up under GB.

We have had a passionless manager on the touch line. Watch him.....he claps mistakes, spends most of the time motionless with his hands in his pockets, and when there is a break in play unlike the opposition manager he fails to coach the players; in fact the players don't even turn to him for leadership.

He should have been potted a long long time ago.

Wake up and smell the coffee please.

[CAPT KAYOS]

Also says to me Venkys are here to get the club back on its feet properly. Any good manager can work with the players we have and make the top 6.

Far too long coming

Regardless -Wa nkys (sorry don't deserve any recognition ) still need to do one though

Warburton was the obvious one IMO but likelihood is we have missed the boat there unless by some miracle he ditches Rangers

Pearson would be my preference if not

All now down to the million dollar question of who and a roll of the dice from our absent owners

[mhead]

I hope the new Manager will have more trust in our young players -especially the forwards -and get some energetic enthusiasm in the side. The Subs bench has been largely a wasteland this Season.

Seen 5 matches and only beaten against Bumley.

Needs to be a law that 2 strikes against Bumley and you resign.