[Archived] Bowyer Sacked

[Speedie Dived]

As also pointed out a lot of money was also spent on players he subsequently inherited and its a fact all these players he actually signed get paid hefty wages which have contributed to the circa 20 million losses each and every year Bowyer has been plodding about with us in mid-table.

If Bowyer is a s good as some think, operating under such tough circumstances, then he will soon be back in work, presumably much higher up the league table. Personally I doubt that very much, but time will tell.

It's a fact that they all get paid hefty wages? Sounds like a general sweeping statement.

I can see why he went, but the same expectations (which I think are over the top) apply to the new man. According the the expectations placed on Bowyer the new guy should shoot us up the table.

[tomphil]

Well if nothing else all this has created a bit of excitement and interest in the club again. Could turn into a horror story again of course but it's all part of the theatre of football I suppose........

[tonygreenbank]

Pretty sure this is a wind-up post but...

Not sure any owners who employ such a shambles of an Exec structure and decision making process at a football club can ever be accused of being "ruthless in their pursuit of success"! Quite the opposite!

Also, Kean wasn't sacked.

Agreed that everyone needs to back the new manager.

OJ this wasnt a "wind up "post.

I admit the Venky`s have made errors since their takeover but I`m quite sure they want success for the club and by implication the brand which is what club owners have always done.

My main point was that many posters on here seemed to think Bowyer was an untouchable.

[onlyonejackwalker]

It's a fact that they all get paid hefty wages? Sounds like a general sweeping statement.

I can see why he went, but the same expectations (which I think are over the top) apply to the new man. According the the expectations placed on Bowyer the new guy should shoot us up the table.

Yeah its a fact pal. They are pro-footballers, they command very decent money at this level and beyond. Thousands of pounds per week. Hence the contribution to our yearly losses.

I presume it doesn't fit with your continued defence of Bowyer to consider the fact that with unhindered support from above, within and on the terraces, plus the ability to recruit all his own managerial support staff, plus signing over 35 full-time professional players, with his very own young fledglings from the last few years also available to select, operating from a Premier League stadium with Premier League training facilites, with International players at his disposal and the top priced striker in the League, operating with annual losses beyond budget of circa 20 zillion, that we should be able to give Shrewsbury a game at home.

I appreciate you giving it a right good go on his behalf, but thankfully even our gormless owners realised he was way out of his depth.

[Mercer]

Surely it was Shaw, or whoever negotiated the payoffs, that 'slashed' the wagebill?

Think 'negotiated' might be too strong a word.

I suspect that most of the contracts were not too far off being paid up in full. Think the success criteria was 'are they out of the building'!

[JAL]

Players and staff will be last to know. Contact of mine was saying 'lump on Moyes' on Tuesday. I didn't.

The last person Rovers need is David Moyes.

[Speedie Dived]

Yeah its a fact pal. They are pro-footballers, they command very decent money at this level and beyond. Thousands of pounds per week. Hence the contribution to our yearly losses.

I presume it doesn't fit with your continued defence of Bowyer to consider the fact that with unhindered support from above, within and on the terraces, plus the ability to recruit all his own managerial support staff, plus signing over 35 full-time professional players, with his very own young fledglings from the last few years also available to select, operating from a Premier League stadium with Premier League training facilites, with International players at his disposal and the top priced striker in the League, operating with annual losses beyond budget of circa 20 zillion, that we should be able to give Shrewsbury a game at home.

I appreciate you giving it a right good go on his behalf, but thankfully even our gormless owners realised he was way out of his depth.

So do other clubs in our league not pay 'hefty' fees?

Again the number of players signed is irrelevant, it's about quality.

The point being the conditions that Bowyer worked under still exist now. They have not gone with him.

[Norbert Rassragr]

The last person Rovers need is David Moyes. Steve Kean and Paul Merson as assistant manager.

Fixed it. Moyes is a good if unadventurous manager.

[Mike E]

Yeah its a fact pal. They are pro-footballers, they command very decent money at this level and beyond. Thousands of pounds per week. Hence the contribution to our yearly losses.

I presume it doesn't fit with your continued defence of Bowyer to consider the fact that with unhindered support from above, within and on the terraces, plus the ability to recruit all his own managerial support staff, plus signing over 35 full-time professional players, with his very own young fledglings from the last few years also available to select, operating from a Premier League stadium with Premier League training facilites, with International players at his disposal and the top priced striker in the League, operating with annual losses beyond budget of circa 20 zillion, that we should be able to give Shrewsbury a game at home.

I appreciate you giving it a right good go on his behalf, but thankfully even our gormless owners realised he was way out of his depth.

The best summary post I've seen in a while.

[onlyonejackwalker]

So do other clubs in our league not pay 'hefty' fees?

Again the number of players signed is irrelevant, it's about quality.

The point being the conditions that Bowyer worked under still exist now. They have not gone with him.

Yeah other clubs pay hefty salaries. See my previous post, Its pro-football, they all command decent salaries at this level. I am sure you must know this.

Re; your point in bold. Good. The new man can benefit from the clubs support and infrastructure, plus the multi-million pound industry that is the Rovers. Truth is, Bowyer had it so much easier than any of the previous 4/5 managers and even with considerable time to build still didn't know his ass from his elbow, especially defensively.

If his signings are irrelevant why did he sign them? Simply to wax more money? It certainly appeared that way with some that he bought, then sold, or bought and didn't play.

My last word on the rather boring Bowyer. Glad he has gone. Never qualified, plodded about, presumably tried his best, stand still = go backwards.

[JAL]

Fixed it. Moyes is a good if unadventurous manager.

All you'd get is more Bradley Orr's and Luke Varneys as he's well in with these guys feeding the club.

Moyes would not be very good for the club or its supporters.

Rovers dont need Moyes and never should !!!!

[Speedie Dived]

Yeah other clubs pay hefty salaries. See my previous post, Its pro-football, they all command decent salaries at this level. I am sure you must know this.

Re; your point in bold. Good. The new man can benefit from the clubs support and infrastructure, plus the multi-million pound industry that is the Rovers. Truth is, Bowyer had it so much easier than any of the previous 4/5 managers and even with considerable time to build still didn't know his ass from his elbow, especially defensively.

If his signings are irrelevant why did he sign them? Simply to wax more money? It certainly appeared that way with some that he bought, then sold, or bought and didn't play.

My last word on the rather boring Bowyer. Glad he has gone. Never qualified, plodded about, presumably tried his best, stand still = go backwards.

The point on wages is the players he brought in were on a fraction of the players we were off loading. He wasn't dishing out 30k a week deals.

With regards to the players, believe it or not you have to have a squad of 25 and it's a good idea to get pros in. With him shopping in the bargain basement you tend to get more as they all don't work.

That plodder got us two top 10 finishes and granted we have had an awful start this year, due to as you say standing still (embargo)

The new man CANNOT benefit from the multi million pound industry. This is the whole point.

[K-Hod]

All you'd get is more Bradley Orr's and Luke Varneys as he's well in with these guys feeding the club.

Moyes would not be very good for the club or its supporters.

What guys are these then?

He's done well enough elsewhere. I'd say United was always a tough ask to be fair.

[Pedro]

The last person Rovers need is David Moyes.

Ever heard of Steve Kean? ☺

[Norbert Rassragr]

All you'd get is more Bradley Orr's and Luke Varneys as he's well in with these guys feeding the club.

Moyes would not be very good for the club or its supporters.

Rovers dont need Moyes and never should !!!!

So he'd buy crap because........he's in bed with dodgy agents? Is that what you're suggesting? If it is about his abilities in the transfer market, then his time at Everton shows he can be good.

[tomphil]

All you'd get is more Bradley Orr's and Luke Varneys as he's well in with these guys feeding the club.

Moyes would not be very good for the club or its supporters.

Rovers dont need Moyes and never should !!!!

Isn't one of them his bro ?

[JHRover]

Never mind Rovers not needing Moyes. If we wanted him the chances are he wouldn't come anywhere near us!

Look at his CV. Other than the last 12 months in Spain he has a career win percentage in the high 40's over a period of 15 years at Preston, Everton and United. Not many could match that. Moyes would be a dream appointment, but unrealistic to expect.

He doesn't need a job right now. He's only just back from Spain and probably wants a break before getting a job like Stoke or WBA.

[onlyonejackwalker]

The point on wages is the players he brought in were on a fraction of the players we were off loading. He wasn't dishing out 30k a week deals.

With regards to the players, believe it or not you have to have a squad of 25 and it's a good idea to get pros in. With him shopping in the bargain basement you tend to get more as they all don't work.

That plodder got us two top 10 finishes and granted we have had an awful start this year, due to as you say standing still (embargo)

The new man CANNOT benefit from the multi million pound industry. This is the whole point.

Keep banging that drum. I didn't rate him at all and was also starting to dislike him as a person / figurehead. He did a bang average job in my view, was a very lucky boy to get the gig and in my considered opinion we have just wasted another 50 million and a further two years trying to educate him to the required standard.

Speedie Dived and were going up! Sang that all the way up the M1 once upon a time, with Leicester fans stuck in traffic next to our rocking mini-bus.

Come on you blues!

[Athlete]

So he'd buy crap because........he's in bed with dodgy agents? Is that what you're suggesting? If it is about his abilities in the transfer market, then his time at Everton shows he can be good.

he's just blown Real Sociedads biggest ever transfer budget...do you remember Diniyar Rinatovich Bilyaletdinov whom he blew Evertons transfer kitty on

[Speedie Dived]

Keep banging that drum. I didn't rate him at all and was also starting to dislike him as a person / figurehead. He did a bang average job in my view, was a very lucky boy to get the gig and in my considered opinion we have just wasted another 50 million and a further two years trying to educate him to the required standard.

Speedie Dived and were going up! Sang that all the way up the M1 once upon a time, with Leicester fans stuck in traffic next to our rocking mini-bus.

Come on you blues!

No idea where you get 50 million from but never mind.

Looking forward to the next manager taking us up with this squad.

[perthblue02]

Isn't one of them his bro ?

and his son

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2432810/CHARLES-SALE-Agents-grumbling-David-Moyes-Jnr.html

[Norbert Rassragr]

Obviously better when on a tight budget. Ours is quite restrictive, to say the least. I do remember Mr. Billy, but do you remember Coleman, Howard, Cahill, Pinaar, Jagielka, Lescott........?

So to say he's s--t and the worst choice is a bit one sided at best.

[onlyonejackwalker]

No idea where you get 50 million from but never mind.

Looking forward to the next manager taking us up with this squad.

I've had to listen to how wonderful Bowyer is at recruitment for the last three years. I'm sure the squad he has compiled is absolutely top drawer.

In keeping with your comments, I could argue I am looking forward to Bowyer taking over from Mourinho in the next week or two. But that would be a bit silly and childish don't you think?

Bowyer is history and most are content it is the right decision. I certainly am and feel it is long overdue.

[Speedie Dived]

I've had to listen to how wonderful Bowyer is at recruitment for the last three years. I'm sure the squad he has compiled is absolutely top drawer.

In keeping with your comments, I could argue I am looking forward to Bowyer taking over from Mourinho in the next week or two. But that would be a bit silly and childish don't you think?

Bowyer is history and most are content it is the right decision. I certainly am and feel it is long overdue.

Players he has paid for, he is well in credit. Probably 4/5 times as much transfer value.

Anyway, it's not about him. It's about what's left and how the new manager does.

I expect between 12th - 16th, with the quality of our current squad.

[Neal]

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11676/10064707/tony-gale-warns-paul-lambert-faces-tough-job-at-blackburn-rovers

Add Tony Gale to the list of ex Rovers players who are full time morons these days.