blondie Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I saw the Old Firm game and once again I am left mightily impressed by a Warburton team. I fear if Lambert does go to Celtic they could be playing second fiddle to Rangers for a while. Warburton top manager ,forward thinking, innovative. Not being a professional footballer has not tainted his fresh approach to the game.
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BlueMonday Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Don't entirely disagree up to a point ,but recent performances surely question, either Lamberts ability, or the political charade that is going on between manager and owners. Not convinced 100% with Lambert not convinced 100000000000% with Venky's If Lambert is given the support he deserves from Venkys (which he hasn't had yet) he will be the best bet we've had since Allardyce. If he gets that support and fails, then fair do's. But wether you are convinced by Lambert or not, I think we all know that if Lambert leaves, Venkys will revert to previous failings, and the slow lingering death will accelerate. There's NO hope that they will sack Lambert and appoint an even more experienced, competent Manager. This is/was the last roll of the dice.
Gav Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Don't entirely disagree up to a point ,but recent performances surely question, either Lamberts ability, or the political charade that is going on between manager and owners. Not convinced 100% with Lambert not convinced 100000000000% with Venky's He's been here 21wks, had to panic loan in January to keep us up and has inherited a squad thats more league 1 than championship, and I don't entirely blame Bowyer for that, its the continued dumbing down of players wages and fees by the owners thats to blame. Doesn't matter if your Wenger or Lambert, we'd be in exactly the same position because the players in the main are rubbish.
blondie Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 If Lambert is given the support he deserves from Venkys (which he hasn't had yet) he will be the best bet we've had since Allardyce. If he gets that support and fails, then fair do's. But wether you are convinced by Lambert or not, I think we all know that if Lambert leaves, Venkys will revert to previous failings, and the slow lingering death will accelerate. There's NO hope that they will sack Lambert and appoint an even more experienced, competent Manager. This is/was the last roll of the dice. Don't think they have any idea what to do .Presumably they were expecting better from Lambert and team ,however now is the time to stick or twist,or as usual do sweet FA.
Athlete Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 If Lambert is given the support he deserves from Venkys (which he hasn't had yet) he will be the best bet we've had since Allardyce. If he gets that support and fails, then fair do's. But wether you are convinced by Lambert or not, I think we all know that if Lambert leaves, Venkys will revert to previous failings, and the slow lingering death will accelerate. There's NO hope that they will sack Lambert and appoint an even more experienced, competent Manager. This is/was the last roll of the dice. Possibly the last roll of the dice advised by this pacha character another who should be nowhere near Ewood Pacha possibly advised Venky's to get a experienced manager in and PL etc were sounded out on vague promises and we'd be in with a chance of promotion but the squad was nowhere near that level and PL gambled on selling Rhodes on the chance of getting more funds to compliment the side come the summer.. But of all the players PL brought in none have been good enough or bothered enough Tony Watt unfortunately got injured Graham bringing another dimension but his goalscoring record for a striker is quite poor and that's putting it midly
T J Hooker Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Shane Duffy @ShaneDuffy34 2h2 hours ago @hindle1985 saved us more than cost us this season if u have watched . I'll take ur opinions on board tho That's how Duffy feels about it and he has a fair case in my view. A "rolling eyes" smiley won't do much to placate people though. Comes across arrogant. well his manager doesn't seem to agree and neither do i, child like reasoning from duffy there, he's a highly paid professional footballer playing at a high level so he shouldn't be personally costing us goals every other week through shear stupidity.
chaddyrovers Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Highly unlikely Gives Irvine the chance to rebuild his manager career. I wouldnt mind Gary Monk tbh. A young manager who play develop a style of play and bring through Academy players. BUT I much rather have Lambert as manager and give him a decent budget and some of the money if players are sold.
Backroom Tom Posted April 17, 2016 Backroom Posted April 17, 2016 Warburton was a huge miss for us. Brentford were so impressive at Ewood under him he was the man to take us forward last summer
gumboots Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 You can't bring through academy players if they're not good enough and on the whole, from what I've seen, the majority of ours are not
Backroom DE. Posted April 17, 2016 Author Backroom Posted April 17, 2016 Warburton was a huge miss for us. Brentford were so impressive at Ewood under him he was the man to take us forward last summer They must regret shipping him out. How's that mathematical model coming along?
oldjamfan1 Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Warburton was a huge miss for us. Brentford were so impressive at Ewood under him he was the man to take us forward last summer Agreed - but there's no way he would have chosen Rovers above Rangers. One of the biggest clubs in the world in terms of its fanbase
yoda Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 He's been here 21wks, had to panic loan in January to keep us up and has inherited a squad thats more league 1 than championship, and I don't entirely blame Bowyer for that, its the continued dumbing down of players wages and fees by the owners thats to blame. Doesn't matter if your Wenger or Lambert, we'd be in exactly the same position because the players in the main are rubbish. Think he and the players deserve some critisism for yesterday though
tomphil Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 In no way am I calling for his head but he has to take some criticism for some of the recent performances. A good few of those players are his signings and they aren't doing it. He also continues to waste Marshall at right back when we are so so poor at creating anything. He said player values and the money thing isn't an excuse on matchday when he was referring to GB, well he's beginning to hide behind it like Bowyer did with the embargo !
Mercer Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Warburton was a huge miss for us. Brentford were so impressive at Ewood under him he was the man to take us forward last summer Rumour has it that we had him but he got fed up of waiting for Pune sign-off and in stepped the Glaswegians. If correct then, operationally, I think it sums up our club perfectly.
J*B Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Rumour has it that we had him but he got fed up of waiting for Pune sign-off and in stepped the Glaswegians. If correct then, operationally, I think it sums up our club perfectly. Absolute, 100%, made up tosh. Complete and utter fabrication which is nowhere near even beginning to be the truth.
oldjamfan1 Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Absolute, 100%, made up tosh. Complete and utter fabrication which is nowhere near even beginning to be the truth. Rumour has it that we had him but he got fed up of waiting for Pune sign-off and in stepped the Glaswegians. If correct then, operationally, I think it sums up our club perfectly. This is almost certainly not true.
Mercer Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Absolute, 100%, made up tosh. Complete and utter fabrication which is nowhere near even beginning to be the truth. If you look back almost 12 months, I think you will find speculation linking Rovers and Warburton. If you recall, I don't think Bowyer went to Pune as he was expected to and if he'd been axed at the time, I do not think it would have caused too much surprise. I think you will even find Rovers / Warburton discussed on this MB at the time.
Gav Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Think he and the players deserve some critisism for yesterday though Absolutely But we have a bigger picture to consider when talking about the managers position and performance.
J*B Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 If you look back almost 12 months, I think you will find speculation linking Rovers and Warburton. If you recall, I don't think Bowyer went to Pune as he was expected to and if he'd been axed at the time, I do not think it would have caused too much surprise. I think you will even find Rovers / Warburton discussed on this MB at the time. This is all true - however the initial post you made giving the impression Warbarton was ready to sign - and would have signed, had it not been for Venkys taking their time, is absolutely wrong in every department.
tomphil Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I can't see how anyone in their right mind would choose us over Celtic anyway these days.
yoda Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Absolutely But we have a bigger picture to consider when talking about the managers position and performance. Maybe but PL should not have let that attitude continue on the pitch, not very professional, paying customers deserve better
McClarky Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Of course PL deserves criticism. His job is to put a team out to win a game and he is doing a right poor job at the moment. Not calling for his head but he needs to improve and quickly.
Mercer Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 This is all true - however the initial post you made giving the impression Warbarton was ready to sign - and would have signed, had it not been for Venkys taking their time, is absolutely wrong in every department. Did Rovers meet Warburton, maybe. Was Warburton, a manager who was going to be out of a job at the end of last season, prepared to join Rovers, maybe. Were Venky's about to axe Bowyer at the end of last season and then changed their mind, maybe. Was Lambert being lined up before the axe fell on Bowyer, maybe. Are Venky's renowned for quick and decisive decision making where Rovers are concerned, I don't think so. I assume from your categoric responses that you have a direct line into Pune and could perhaps share with us what the summer's transfer budget is, if any.
J*B Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Did Rovers meet Warburton, maybe. Was Warburton, a manager who was going to be out of a job at the end of last season, prepared to join Rovers, maybe. Were Venky's about to axe Bowyer at the end of last season and then changed their mind, maybe. Was Lambert being lined up before the axe fell on Bowyer, maybe. Are Venky's renowned for quick and decisive decision making where rovers are concerned, I don't think so. I assume from your categoric responses that you have a direct line into Pune and could perhaps share with us what the summer's transfer budget is, if any. No, No, No, Yes. No budgets set, Lambert was under the impression he was getting 10m plus the majority of anything he lost from the wage budget - could still be the case, but nobody can get an answer. Everybody mightily @#/? off.
tomphil Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Of course PL deserves criticism. His job is to put a team out to win a game and he is doing a right poor job at the moment. Not calling for his head but he needs to improve and quickly. Exactly. He's the manager and some of the buck has to stop with him. Gaz got it in the neck, quite rightly at times and over the top on others. I'm still happy we got him but it's only right he gets scrutinised at times and the jury remains out on him a bit really until we see what he can do over a summer. Not sure we'll get that chance to see though.........
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