JBiz Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 I even qualified THAT with 'based on recent form' I love the guy! I also love the guy. If he'd left at any point of the past few seasons, I'd've not held a grudge, he's been a consistent shining light throughout his time here. Doesn't make him untouchable in terms of criticism when he's not playing well. I'd find it astonishing to see anyone argue with that either! Especially if a poster had written off a player as garbage after less than 10 starts or an injury riddled spell, which happens a lot on here and in general.
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ABBEY Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 He's alright but I suspect Tom Cairney may be better exactly...... back to the Ian Rush jokes again, sorry. You gotta urn the right to make Ian Rush jokes and then you don't bottle it
old darwen blue Posted December 17, 2015 Posted December 17, 2015 You still up? Hope your feeling better pal, you didn't miss much over the two games you missed.
Jimmy612 Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Ian Rush would have been hounded out by the Rhodes haters. More like Ian Rush would have been hounded out by the Rhodes lovers in favour of their hero. Remember the old saying. In football you are only as good as your last match.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 More like Ian Rush would have been hounded out by the Rhodes lovers in favour of their hero. Remember the old saying. In football you are only as good as your last match. Yeah, the phrase " Rhodes haters " is ludicrous. I've never hated any player at Rovers, Burnley or anywhere else. It's a bloody game not a war. There have been plenty of opponents I've disliked as players. I've even disliked a few playing for us, but hate them ? It's a crazy idea. Nobody at the club should be above constructive criticism if we're ever going to get out of the mess we are in.
Amo Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Yeah, the phrase " Rhodes haters " is ludicrous. I've never hated any player at Rovers, Burnley or anywhere else. It's a bloody game not a war. There have been plenty of opponents I've disliked as players. I've even disliked a few playing for us, but hate them ? It's a crazy idea. Nobody at the club should be above constructive criticism if we're ever going to get out of the mess we are in. Except if it's Jason Lowe. Then it's seen as scapegoating or victimising.
JBiz Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Except if it's Jason Lowe. Then it's seen as scapegoating or victimising. Ha- criticising a player is one thing, but saying that; results whilst a player is injured highlights his ability is another.
Lancs Rover Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Paul Lambert might find Rovers and Villa's positions in this Third Division table from 25 years ago today interesting... Courtesy of @WSC_magazine
Pedro Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Paul Lambert might find Rovers and Villa's positions in this Third Division table from 25 years ago today interesting... Courtesy of @WSC_magazine 25 years ago? We were in the old Division 2 in 1990.
Lancs Rover Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 25 years ago? We were in the old Division 2 in 1990. Showing my age, Pedro. Using my fingers, I reckon it's forty-four years ago (as per date at the top of the table.) Seems like yesterday. Glad it isn't though, looking at that grid.
Steve Kean's Hypnotoad Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Yeah, the phrase " Rhodes haters " is ludicrous. I've never hated any player at Rovers, Burnley or anywhere else. It's a bloody game not a war. There have been plenty of opponents I've disliked as players. I've even disliked a few playing for us, but hate them ? It's a crazy idea. Nobody at the club should be above constructive criticism if we're ever going to get out of the mess we are in. And therein lies the issue. There is nothing constructive in the slightest about the mockery, swear words, insults and groans Rovers fans subject certain players to at games. As a general rule its done in emotions ranging from sneering contempt to apoplectic rage and without exception is a totally pointless enterprise. The manager isn't going to sub someone because the crowd tell him to (or at the very least he never should do), the player isn't going to sub themselves, and I've yet to see an instance where angry criticism bordering on abuse improves anyone's performance in anything they're doing. The only situation I see it as less than massively counterproductive is on the rare occasion when a player isn't trying. But Danny Murphy aside, I've not seen that in a Rovers player for a good long while. I've seen players low on confidence, low on ability, playing an unfamiliar role/system or carrying a knock, and sometimes I think that's misconstrued as not trying. Certainly haven't/didn't see it from Brown, Lowe, Pedersen, Roberts etc who the scapegoaters just loved.
Exiled in Toronto Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Paul Lambert might find Rovers and Villa's positions in this Third Division table from 25 years ago today interesting... Courtesy of @WSC_magazine And then we signed John McNamee...
philipl Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 And then we signed John McNamee... That 7-1 defeat at Shrewsbury in October '71 was pretty well Rovers' all time low point.
AllRoverAsia Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 That 7-1 defeat at Shrewsbury in October '71 was pretty well Rovers' all time low point. That game had been expunged from my memory years ago.......until now
roversoutsider Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 The obsession that some of our fans have with Lowe is sometimes mind-numbing. There was this bloke on Twitter that attributed all of our recent successes entirely to the absence of Lowe in the team, as if a new management team had no effect. And unsurprisingly there were quite a few who seemed to side with him with a few tasty words thrown in towards the player. While it may be true, why bring it up when the guy's injured? Let's see him get back and see how he plays under PL eh? And, I was watching the Football Today show where they were discussing the Mourinho issue. Alan Curbishley said that there are two types of managers when it comes to picking the team. Those that pick players based entirely on form and those that pick players based on effort and perceived ability. And he reckoned Jose belonged to the latter category with him always being loyal to his core group of players even if they had been performing badly. He also went on to say that this is because Football managers have a lot of time for players that give their blood and sweat for the team even if they're slightly less talented. Which is why he says most managers prefer to pick players whom they know will give their all for the cause. Only a few brave managers he says choose players purely based on talent these days. That says a lot about why the likes of Jason Lowe has always been picked by all managers he's played for while the likes of Rochina plod around from team to team. And again, unsurprisingly, Lowe gets vilified while Rochina had a mini cult following. If Lowe comes back,and if Pl picks him in the team it will once again prove that fans have the knowledge of a chipmunk compared to a professional football manager.
Mattyblue Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Don't think Lowe and Rochina is a like for like comparison. Seems bizarre that a manager would intentionally weaken his side just to play a 'grafter', and reading those comments it sounds like Curbs is actually saying managers can be loyal to those that have performed well in the past and deserve to be stuck with, as their attitude can't be questioned, can't say Lowe fits that mould. In our new Super Akpan world, I doubt Lowe will get back in, but on the flipside has Lowe ever played under a proper manager? Maybe Lambert can bring his game on.
AllRoverAsia Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Rochina got his share of slagging at Ewood and on here. Whilst not previously a big fan of Lowe I am quite looking forward to him getting fit to see what a decent manager can get from him. I wish Lowe well, at the very least he puts a shift in.
Mattyblue Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Bowyer is the studio guest on Five Live right now.
yoda Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 And then we signed John McNamee... That 7-1 defeat at Shrewsbury in October '71 was pretty well Rovers' all time low point. I remember an article in the telewag after that game where the girl on telephone reception at Ewood had got verbal abuse from supporters calling in to check the score in disbelief
Amo Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 Bowyer is the studio guest on Five Live right now. "We were trying to get into the Premiership." Were we? I must have missed that.
Mattyblue Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 "We were trying to get into the Premiership." Were we? I must have missed that. But they did get there according to Gaz, well Dann, Olsson and Gestede. Us fans are very proud
Backroom DE. Posted December 18, 2015 Author Backroom Posted December 18, 2015 But they did get there according to Gaz, well Dann, Olsson and Gestede. Us fans are very proud Still a youth coach who masqueraded for three years as a manager.
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted December 18, 2015 Posted December 18, 2015 And therein lies the issue. There is nothing constructive in the slightest about the mockery, swear words, insults and groans Rovers fans subject certain players to at games. As a general rule its done in emotions ranging from sneering contempt to apoplectic rage and without exception is a totally pointless enterprise. The manager isn't going to sub someone because the crowd tell him to (or at the very least he never should do), the player isn't going to sub themselves, and I've yet to see an instance where angry criticism bordering on abuse improves anyone's performance in anything they're doing. The only situation I see it as less than massively counterproductive is on the rare occasion when a player isn't trying. But Danny Murphy aside, I've not seen that in a Rovers player for a good long while. I've seen players low on confidence, low on ability, playing an unfamiliar role/system or carrying a knock, and sometimes I think that's misconstrued as not trying. Certainly haven't/didn't see it from Brown, Lowe, Pedersen, Roberts etc who the scapegoaters just loved. .Tell you what. Jason Roberts would have been a brilliant partner for Rhodes.
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