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[Archived] Official: Paul Lambert Appointed Blackburn Rovers Manager


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Another hissy fit. Ah well, at least it got a 'Yoda like' so that's good.

Of course it's 'your way', always has been. Very little to say on football, loves a safe Internet snide comment.

The night light is on, I'll leave the door slightly open. Now close your eyes soooooooo tight and wish yesterday's result never happened and, you never know, there maybe a lovely surprise in the morning.

Night night x

Pot calling the kettle

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The night light is on, I'll leave the door slightly open. Now close your eyes soooooooo tight and wish yesterday's result never happened and, you never know, there maybe a lovely surprise in the morning.

Night night x

Are you wired up right fella.
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Well my opinion for what it's worth. Lambert knows how he wants his team to play. It's plainly obvious that the current players aren't capable of giving him what he wants. He gets my backing to get rid of anyone who can't play to his footballing philosophy - which is most of 'em. If he goes back to the previous encumbents strategy of signing anyone available then trying to form a team out of 'em, he might as well have stayed away. Let's see what happens. If he fails, he fails. Let's not pretend staying as we were, was in any way desirable.

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To summarise the narrative arc on this board over the last 8 weeks:

Pre-Lambert:

Bowyer, while having a reasonable eye for a player, had the team hopelessly under performing because he was a rubbish coach and motivator. He also benefitted from the unstoppable scoring machine that is Jordan Rhodes who would ordinarily have all but guaranteed promotion.

Lambert Phase I:

Lamberts wins came because, unlike Bowyer, he knew how to win games and we would have lost them under Bowyer. He's getting the players in shape and more focused as we head up the table. Just shows what a proper manager can do.

Lambert Phase II:

The last few games show just what an appalling, relegation-bound squad Bowyer had recruited. No-one could possibly improve this rabble in only six weeks. Rhodes is a lazy, disinterested cart horse who should be sold before breakfast on Jan 1.

Have I missed anything?

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Whilst PL's interview post-match was refreshingly honest he doesn't seem too concerned by the lack of goals, or indeed chances that we are creating. They always say that if you're going through a barron spell but still creating chances then the goals will eventually come but if you're not...

Players needed, and fast.

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What a load of f-ing cobblers. The highlighted just 2 classic examples of your GB propaganda. Give your head a wobble and see shrink.

Facts dear boy. There's no need for propoganda or for your paranoia in suggesting there is.

This has nothing to do with Bowyer/Lambert. It's to do with members pursuing their own personal vendettas.

You're right there. 'Bowyerette' this, 'Rhodes-haters' that. Sad times

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Jizzles in my corner .. Should I be scared .

It boils down to this ..venkys have shagged us over no end .one brain dead decision after another .they have got rid of everything classy we had ( imo Rhodes only ) apart from Rhodes and now maybe Hanley if he carries on improving. They've given us crap after crap manager . They've got us in embargo and forced us to buy crap , for some reason bowyer had a stiffy on this. Now somehow we've got a real manager and some are wanting him gone after 7( is it games) .

It's bloody pathetic . I want the slum dogs gone make no mistake but I want rovers to win more . People saying this is lambert's team are , well I won't say as I'd be banned again.

Remember when Utd fans wanted Ferguson sacking after 10 games .. Yup so do I .

Kean and Anderson ?? No it was caused and signed off by venkys !!

So was GB's sacking and Paul Lamberts subsequent appointment.

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I'm not a soccer expert. I have nothing against Bowyer or Lambert. I supported GB when he was manager and I'll support PL as he's now the manager.

That said, I think PL has been doing a good job. He has 3 wins in 7 games. He's obviously tightening up the defense, as the score line indicates. He's done this despite having inherited an out of condition squad which was praised for even mediocre performances, and despite not having brought in a single player of his own, as of yet.

I think that's remarkable. I think he's doing a decent job with the tools he has. Once he's allowed to bring in his own players, I think he'll do a fantastic job. But I might be wrong, as I'm not a soccer expert. Only time will tell.

So why don't we wait until the end of the season before deciding whether to get out the hammer and nail him to a tree?

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I'm not a soccer expert. I have nothing against Bowyer or Lambert. I supported GB when he was manager and I'll support PL as he's now the manager.

That said, I think PL has been doing a good job. He has 3 wins in 7 games. He's obviously tightening up the defense, as the score line indicates. He's done this despite having inherited an out of condition squad which was praised for even mediocre performances, and despite not having brought in a single player of his own, as of yet.

I think that's remarkable. I think he's doing a decent job with the tools he has. Once he's allowed to bring in his own players, I think he'll do a fantastic job. But I might be wrong, as I'm not a soccer expert. Only time will tell.

So why don't we wait until the end of the season before deciding whether to get out the hammer and nail him to a tree?

Far too sensible an idea for some on this MB

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Pure conjecture. Bowyer won games convincingly against far better opposition than Lambert has played. We have gone backwards. GB had two good windows and a few where the likes of Brown and Varney were the only options. I doubt Lambert will get 5 windows if the team continues to play like they did today. Fortunately he won't have to work under the restrictions Bowyer did simply because Bowyer bought players that have made the club enough money to get out of the embargo. Lambert has so far given it the big I AM, served up some truly atrocious football and got a few lucky wins.

Bowyer - 3 years - saved the club from League 1, Rebuilt the football club, finished 8th and 9th, QF's of the FA Cup, made the club enough money to exit the embargo caused by Kean/Anderson and re-structured an Academy that is now flourishing.

Lambert - 6 weeks not a single goal from open play.

Come back when Lambert has achieved something at Rovers.

By your logic only this season counts - in which case Bowyer doesn't come out very well at all.

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We should give PL the jan transfer window as well as the summer transfer windows. This will also include a full preseason. Probably fair to judge him by next christmas. Unless ofcourse we get into a relegation fight.

Christmas 2017...

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Christmas 2017...

Fair enough ...if the objective is comparing him to Bowyer.

But a fair objective would ideally be

1. Avoid relegation this season (summer 2016)

2. Playoffs or there about next season atleast a top 10 finish (summer 2017)

3. Automatic promotion or atleast playoffs (summer 2018)

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Well my opinion for what it's worth. Lambert knows how he wants his team to play. It's plainly obvious that the current players aren't capable of giving him what he wants. He gets my backing to get rid of anyone who can't play to his footballing philosophy - which is most of 'em. If he goes back to the previous encumbents strategy of signing anyone available then trying to form a team out of 'em, he might as well have stayed away. Let's see what happens. If he fails, he fails. Let's not pretend staying as we were, was in any way desirable.

Will Lambert have complete control or will he just have to get on with what he's given player recruitment wise?

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Fair enough ...if the objective is comparing him to Bowyer.

But a fair objective would ideally be

1. Avoid relegation this season (summer 2016)

2. Playoffs or there about next season atleast a top 10 finish (summer 2017)

3. Automatic promotion or atleast playoffs (summer 2018)

It's not just an exercise in comparing Lambert to Bowyer. It's what we can realistically expect. I would certainly expect us to be mounting a play-off challenge next season. However, a lot will depend on the personnel we get in January - if anyone. Windows - even pre-embargo - were depressing under Bowyer with him struggling to attract anyone of any quality - particularly in. KT being able to get good PL loans which make the difference at many other clubs. I expect Lambert to have better contacts.

A decent squad in January may see a faint hope rekindled of at least seeing us attempt to get near 6th this season.

But it will take a full pre-season in this team to get them to where Lambert needs them to be. The idea of potting him that Christmas is absurd.

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People seem to forget that Souness only won 3 of his first 10 games, with more talent at his disposal (Jansen, Dunn, Duff, Flitty, Gillespie, Short etc.).

The one and only time I rang Radio Rovers was during that run in when everyone was already moaning. I said that he was just seeing who would be good enough and have the fight to play for the club next season before he shipped the others out. They pretty much laughed and cut me short. I've never bothered since, although I was close when Bowyer was telling us that we were giving things a right good go - without closing down and getting any shots on target.

Lambert is seeing who is up for the fight, I've no doubt about that.

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Lambert has already won as many games as Bowyer managed all season. A couple of losses and now people are pining for Bowyer.

Folk have got some front I'll give them that.

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Taking the subjective opinions out of the debate the facts are as follows -

Bowyer's first 7 games as caretaker manager - 10 points (including 3 and 4 nil hammerings along the way)

Bowyer's first 7 games as full time manager - 8 points (including the pathetic no show 2 nil reverse at Doncaster)

Lambert's first 7 games - 11 points (including the pathetic no show yesterday)

What also should be remembered is that this is Lambert's last chance saloon, sh1t or bust. If he fails here he's toast because he's set himself up to succeed. Contrast that with Bowyer who downplayed things at every turn in order to preserve his reputation.

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Lambert has already won as many games as Bowyer managed all season. A couple of losses and now people are pining for Bowyer.

Folk have got some front I'll give them that.

Front? For having the temerity to say that the performance yesterday was abysmal? For saying we've gone backwards perormance-wise and now, seemingly, results-wise? For questioning his strange subs yesterday, or his bizarre hoofball tactics even when Koita was taken off? Or his strange assertion after the game that having the game called off against Boro worked against us? That one is up there with Kean going on about dew on the grass!

They were just some of his 'failings' yesterday. There were plenty of others. but essentially he got out-fought and out-thought by a manager who hadn't won for 18 games.

Nobody is 'pining' for Bowyer, but everything you and others criticised him for can be now be levelled at Lambert. At least Bowyer's team could pass to each other and create chances.

I understand your frustration though. Yesterday was awful.

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