[Archived] Official: Paul Lambert Appointed Blackburn Rovers Manager

[Lancs Rover]

I'm not into stats. Sorry, but I'd rather watch the games and make up my own mind.

You can't possibly compare a manager after seven games and one who has been manager for three years in circumstances which were totally unprecedented.

I do think that PL made a rod for his own back though. Coming in and saying that the club can't hide behind the excuse of the embargo. He's implying a lot of things there one of which is 'I could have done a lot better'.

Well, we will never know (hopefully) because we are no longer in that situation. But belittling the efforts of everyone involved who managed to keep the club solvent(-ish) whatever the limitations on the pitch isn't a great motivator. Managers who suggest that the staff they've inherited are dross don't usually get massive commitment in return.

[Amo]

Nobody is 'pining' for Bowyer, but everything you and others criticised him for can be now be levelled at Lambert. At least Bowyer's team could pass to each other and create chances.

There were countless games under Bowyer where we created the square root of F'All and most of our play involved passing in pointless triangles before hoofing it upfield. Now who's a revisionist?

[Doug]

Lambert has already won as many games as Bowyer managed all season. A couple of losses and now people are pining for Bowyer.

Folk have got some front I'll give them that.

I expect better from you K-Hod, nobody is pining for Bowyer, everybody is behind Lambert, please do not join the clique on here!

Personally, I am a little concerned with our recent performances and this MB must allow posters to put their views on here, regardless of who the manager is. We all know PL needs time and several transfer windows to build his own team.

Read the Bolton thread, how many non-attenders were shocked at our poor performance!

And finally, can we all cut the stupid, childish labelling such as 'haters, Rovers Fan' etc. its just infantile and extremely annoying!

[Gav]

I still struggle to comprehend the mystifying love in over a manager who took over a poor team in a poor position and 3 years later left behind a poor team in a poor position. Bloody baffling.

Its not baffling at all, you're very much in a minority thankfully, as most Rovers fans appreciate Gary Bowyers contribution, taking over the reigns twice when the club was in the sh1t, once steering us away from relegation when we found ourselves plummeting towards division 1.

Bowyer outstayed his welcome in the end, but I and many others are grateful for his contribution, but I'm ecstatic that we now have Paul Lambert, a proper manager in charge.

[K-Hod]

I expect better from you K-Hod, nobody is pining for Bowyer, everybody is behind Lambert, please do not join the clique on here!

Personally, I am a little concerned with our recent performances and this MB must allow posters to put their views on here, regardless of who the manager is. We all know PL needs time and several transfer windows to build his own team.

Read the Bolton thread, how many non-attenders were shocked at our poor performance!

And finally, can we all cut the stupid, childish labelling such as 'haters, Rovers Fan' etc. its just infantile and extremely annoying!

Sorry Doug, but that's just how it seems to me!

We were absolutely wretched yesterday though, no argument from me. A lot needs to change.

I suppose my main point being, a lot of the posters seemingly willing to give Bowyer all the time in the world aren't willing to give Lambert anywhere near the same amount of time...

[allanncd]

Wigan thought they had taken on a "proper manager" with both Coyle and Mackay (both of whom had taken a club to the Prem) and look how it worked out for them. Why is PL any different? It seems he's trying impose a playing "style" that is not suited to the players currently at his disposal and, by yesterday's disinterested display, not accepted by them either.

[BlooBoy]

"Managers who suggest that the staff they've inherited are dross don't usually get massive commitment in return."

But maybe PL is right ..he has inherited dross in his eyes. Common denominator at the moment is that both GB and PL had the same players and we still look trash. You cannot get away from that however you want to dress it up.

Cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear ..give the bloke time to make HIS changes and then lets analyse him.

[tomphil]

Bowyers slightly more expansive style wasn't working with these players either for gods sake. Yes there might have been a few more passes to applaud but the same faults as now were undoing us. Not scoring enough and some defensive frailties by individuals.

Sooner or later Gaz would have reverted to type, it's a given.

[blueboy3333]

I'm not into stats. Sorry, but I'd rather watch the games and make up my own mind.

You can't possibly compare a manager after seven games and one who has been manager for three years in circumstances which were totally unprecedented.

I do think that PL made a rod for his own back though. Coming in and saying that the club can't hide behind the excuse of the embargo. He's implying a lot of things there one of which is 'I could have done a lot better'.

Well, we will never know (hopefully) because we are no longer in that situation. But belittling the efforts of everyone involved who managed to keep the club solvent(-ish) whatever the limitations on the pitch isn't a great motivator. Managers who suggest that the staff they've inherited are dross don't usually get massive commitment in return.

That's exactly what annoyed me about Lambert. You have to question his character when he feels the need to take cheap shots at the previous manager regarding something he will never have to contend with. It was almost Kean-esque. His 'accepting mediocrity' line was also nonsense. He looks a bit of a idiot now considering how badly we've been playing.

Lambert needs to pull his finger out. He won't get a huge transfer kitty to play with so he needs to spend his time improving the players and team he already has. That's what he's paid for.

There were countless games under Bowyer where we created the square root of F'All and most of our play involved passing in pointless triangles before hoofing it upfield. Now who's a revisionist?

And you criticised him for it. What's your point?

[LDRover]

I'm not into stats. Sorry, but I'd rather watch the games and make up my own mind.

You can't possibly compare a manager after seven games and one who has been manager for three years in circumstances which were totally unprecedented.

You're right. It's unfair to compare to the previous manager, especially on the 2nd set of games, when he'd been given a full transfer window and significant financial backing to mould his own team. Maybe we should afford Lambert the same courtesy?

[blueboy3333]

You're right. It's unfair to compare to the previous manager, especially on the 2nd set of games, when he'd been given a full transfer window and significant financial backing to mould his own team. Maybe we should afford Lambert the same courtesy?

'significant' is a relative term. Over 3 years in this division Bowyer wasn't given 'significant' funds at all in comparison with many other clubs. Hopefully Lambert will be given a lot more to spend on fees and wages in order that we aren't relying on average free transfers and loans.

[Amo]

And you criticised him for it. What's your point?

That you're talking out of your jacksy and misrepresenting how it really was under Bowyer.

[EgyptianPete]

Front? For having the temerity to say that the performance yesterday was abysmal? For saying we've gone backwards perormance-wise and now, seemingly, results-wise? For questioning his strange subs yesterday, or his bizarre hoofball tactics even when Koita was taken off? Or his strange assertion after the game that having the game called off against Boro worked against us? That one is up there with Kean going on about dew on the grass!

They were just some of his 'failings' yesterday. There were plenty of others. but essentially he got out-fought and out-thought by a manager who hadn't won for 18 games.

Nobody is 'pining' for Bowyer, but everything you and others criticised him for can be now be levelled at Lambert. At least Bowyer's team could pass to each other and create chances.

I understand your frustration though. Yesterday was awful.

Out fought by the bolton players not the bolton manager, yesterday will have told Paul Lambert and Alan Irvine just who is good enough (just about) and who is just not up to it, i expect to see at least four new signings.

Oh and that team yesterday was ALL Bowyer signings, which just shows us how much he had Fuked up the team with his signings, that's fact.

[EgyptianPete]

'significant' is a relative term. Over 3 years in this division Bowyer wasn't given 'significant' funds at all in comparison with many other clubs. Hopefully Lambert will be given a lot more to spend on fees and wages in order that we aren't relying on average free transfers and loans.

What utter tosh, Bowyer brought in more than 40 yes 40 players over his tenure, how much did that cost, i'm sick of this praise and how unfortunate Bowyer was, it is in fact how fortunate Bowyer was. yesterdays team was the result of bowyers tenure, at least 4 should not be anywhere near our beloved team.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Wigan thought they had taken on a "proper manager" with both Coyle and Mackay (both of whom had taken a club to the Prem) and look how it worked out for them. Why is PL any different? It seems he's trying impose a playing "style" that is not suited to the players currently at his disposal and, by yesterday's disinterested display, not accepted by them either.

Looking at that lot I'm scratching my head to figure out what style they are most suited to. One that involves not much running, passing, tackling, heading or shooting would seem to fit the bill.

[Amo]

What utter tosh, Bowyer brought in more than 40 yes 40 players over his tenure, how much did that cost, i'm sick of this praise and how unfortunate Bowyer was, it is in fact how fortunate Bowyer was. yesterdays team was the result of bowyers tenure, at least 4 should not be anywhere near our beloved team.

I was about to correct you, but after a quick headcount I think you're about right. Yes, including loans he's brought some 40 players into the club during his tenure. He might not have paid millions for most of these players and the squad did need an overhaul, but after all those transfers we were ultimately no better off than when he took over in terms of league standing.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Some of the comments have been mind boggling. Bowyer was not good enough, brought in a lot of the players who were pants at Bolton and never addressed issues like the lack of a right back or creative midfielder (like Judge who was bought then sold) because he was busy buying 20 rubbish strikers and defensive midfielders. Yet a few are blaming Lambert for the crap squad and appear to miss the days when we'd worry about losing points 2-0 up with 20 minutes to go as the team visibly loses confidence and fitness.

[blueboy3333]

What utter tosh, Bowyer brought in more than 40 yes 40 players over his tenure, how much did that cost, i'm sick of this praise and how unfortunate Bowyer was, it is in fact how fortunate Bowyer was. yesterdays team was the result of bowyers tenure, at least 4 should not be anywhere near our beloved team.

Oh dear. This is an old argument and has been debunked on many an occasion:-

1) He had to start from scratch so he had to bring in a lot of players.

2) Some of these were loans, some youth players, some back-up. Bowyer's record in the transfer market was good.

3) 40 (if it was that number) isn't a lot in the Championship over 3 years. Other teams brought in more. Rover's released over 50 players during this time, some of them on ridiculous wages. it was a massive rebuilding job, unprecedented in Rovers recent history.

4) If you think Bowyer not having much money to spend is 'utter tosh' then i suggest you do your own research on how much other Chamionship clubs spent in the 3 years he was here. Many team spent more on one player than Bowyer did in 3 years. Our 'beloved team' is made up of cast-offs, Academy graduates and a big-money signing who looks like he can't be arsed.

5) yesterdays result was because Lambert couldn't get a tune out of the players that beat Ipswich 3-0 a few weeks ago, and that the players Lambert prepared were out-fought by a team that hadn't won for 18 games.

[Hasta]

Mostly opinions.

Lambert 3 wins in 6

Bowyer 3 wins in 17

Facts.

[Stuart]

Wigan thought they had taken on a "proper manager" with both Coyle and Mackay (both of whom had taken a club to the Prem) and look how it worked out for them. Why is PL any different? It seems he's trying impose a playing "style" that is not suited to the players currently at his disposal and, by yesterday's disinterested display, not accepted by them either.

What's your solution, Allan?

[DE.]

I suppose my main point being, a lot of the posters seemingly willing to give Bowyer all the time in the world aren't willing to give Lambert anywhere near the same amount of time...

This is the crux of it for me. A lot of hypocritical posts that seem to be made out of spite rather than common sense. The past few games haven't been great, in fact they've been downright awful, but Lambert's still finding his feet with a pretty crappy squad of weaklings. He desperately needs to come up with a better plan than hoof to big man and hope for the best, because that ain't working.

[Amo]

Wigan thought they had taken on a "proper manager" with both Coyle and Mackay (both of whom had taken a club to the Prem) and look how it worked out for them. Why is PL any different? It seems he's trying impose a playing "style" that is not suited to the players currently at his disposal and, by yesterday's disinterested display, not accepted by them either.

Den said it best when Lambert was first appointed, there is absolutely no guarantee that he will be a success here just because he's an experienced manager. However, for the first time in history, at least it occurred to the owners to appoint someone on merit rather than taking a punt on yet another glorified coach or no-mark.

[BySkillAndHardWork]

Banana's

[Norbert Rassragr]

Players still cost money in wages, signing on fees, agent fees and so on. So even bringing in 35 players on Bosmans would cost something.

[BySkillAndHardWork]

Oh dear. This is an old argument and has been debunked on many an occasion:-

1) He had to start from scratch so he had to bring in a lot of players.

2) Some of these were loans, some youth players, some back-up. Bowyer's record in the transfer market was good.

3) 40 (if it was that number) isn't a lot in the Championship over 3 years. Other teams brought in more. Rover's released over 50 players during this time, some of them on ridiculous wages. it was a massive rebuilding job, unprecedented in Rovers recent history.

4) If you think Bowyer not having much money to spend is 'utter tosh' then i suggest you do your own research on how much other Chamionship clubs spent in the 3 years he was here. Many team spent more on one player than Bowyer did in 3 years. Our 'beloved team' is made up of cast-offs, Academy graduates and a big-money signing who looks like he can't be arsed.

5) yesterdays result was because Lambert couldn't get a tune out of the players that beat Ipswich 3-0 a few weeks ago, and that the players Lambert prepared were out-fought by a team that hadn't won for 18 games.

1) No he decided to start from scratch, no-one else. Unprecedented in football not just Rovers, not even Wolves Kenny Jackett released as many of his high earners as we did. But the real question is why did he have to do what no other manager in footballing history has done.

2) Gestede etc were highlighted by the scouting team before GB took over, fact. How did he do after those ones?

3) All his choice, all down to him, what is the point of signing players who will not improve us? surely as opposed to 40 players who are in your own words not good enough he should have combined the money and signed 4-5 who were good enough to improve us?

4) He spent all his available funds on paying players off and then signing others to replace the ones he couldn't motive/handle. As stated it has never happened anywhere before, why did he have to do it??? All that money wasted paying off 80% plus of people's contracts or millions we could have spent elsewhere and on better players.

5) And each and everyone signed by your messiah, players who won't challenge him, push him and just come along for the ride. Yes PL should have gotten more out of them, but those are their personalities. They turned up expecting to win, just as they did under GB many times.

PS all of the above is your opinion, nothing more and nothing less, so far your opinions have reaped poor returns as GB went the way of to dodo.

He's gone deal with it, he failed, you backed a dead horse and now flip to critiquing his successor in the manner you spent ages berating everyone on here for.

Below are the only facts that matter:

3 wins in 7 eclipses GB's 3 in 17 and thank god for that!!