[Archived] Official: Paul Lambert Appointed Blackburn Rovers Manager

[chaddyrovers]

Your the one touting him obviously it's all bluff and misleading baloney with you.

Baloney come from you pal.

You are the one with all this negative comments about these things.

[DE.]

Now that we have a professional group in charge at the club, I expect there are several noses out of joint - probably some on this messageboard too I'd guess.

And in the dressing room, if the last few "performances" are anything to go by. Seems a few players resent having their cushy lifestyle under GB taken away. Hopefully Lambert can boot those people out of the door quickly, as we need players who strive to be the best they can be, rather than players who strive to be good enough.

[Stuart]

And in the dressing room, if the last few "performances" are anything to go by. Seems a few players resent having their cushy lifestyle under GB taken away. Hopefully Lambert can boot those people out of the door quickly, as we need players who strive to be the best they can be, rather than players who strive to be good enough.

Odd as it sounds given he has been one of our better performers, I worry about Marshall's current mindset.

I was watching the warm-up before Lambert's first home game and Rob Kelly was warming up the strikers. He was trying his best to cajole the strikers and get them up for it. One particular drill, he dropped the ball to their feet, one player at a time, then grabbed their shirt for a second to force them to 'fight' him for the ball, get by him and shoot. With Marshall, Kelly was having to shout at him to get him to come close enough to start the drill, "closer, closer" with a beckoning hand. Eventually Marshall complied but after his turn, he ambled back shaking his head. As though - I'm too good for this. That might be unfair but that's the impression he gave, and that was in front of the fans. Imaging what he might be like on the training pitch. His form under Lambert has been poor but while Rhodes isn't scoring he isn't being highlighted.

It only takes one bad egg. Hopefully I'm reading too much into what I saw and he was just shaking his head at himself for his own form but it didn't look like it. If I was Rob Kelly I'd have tipped off Lambert and be keeping a close eye on things like that. We need all of the players pulling in the same direction - regardless of their natural ability. Especially when the likes of Chris Taylor - another honest pro - have been dropped down the pecking order.

[den]

What a conversation.

I'm just glad the club have made this move. It might work out, or it might not - but I would never, ever want to go through that Bowyer reign again. Why would anybody want to? It was one of the most down putting, mind numbing, negative periods of the recent past.

[Gav]

What a conversation.

I'm just glad the club have made this move. It might work out, or it might not - but I would never, ever want to go through that Bowyer reign again. Why would anybody want to?

Because it was better than going through another Berg or Appleton reign?

[den]

Because it was better than going through another Berg or Appleton reign?

Ambition at its highest. It was pathetic the way that all hope was abandoned.

[yoda]

Baloney come from you pal.

You are the one with all this negative comments about these things.

Anyone who has a different view to you is negative.

JAL has more of an understanding than you think, being in the trade, so to speak

[DE.]

Ambition at its highest. It was pathetic the way that all hope was abandoned.

When I read Bowyer's 8th and 9th placed finishes being touted as achievements it makes me realise how far expectations across the fanbase have fallen. A 43 goal strike force and 9th being a good finish, ffs. It's little wonder Lambert had to remind the fans that accepting mediocrity is not good enough.

[roverandout]

People cry out for a proper manager for years, we get one, then whine like a bitch a couple of months into his reign, baffling!!

[Gav]

Ambition at its highest. It was pathetic the way that all hope was abandoned.

Football goes in cycles den, we have to accept that, but we've hopefully come through that in the same division all be it with a poor squad.

Paul has something to build on.

[Blue blood]

And in the dressing room, if the last few "performances" are anything to go by. Seems a few players resent having their cushy lifestyle under GB taken away. Hopefully Lambert can boot those people out of the door quickly, as we need players who strive to be the best they can be, rather than players who strive to be good enough.

I wondered about this too (though didn't post said thoughts) - great minds eh? I do wonder if that is the case. Clearly the fact we're looking knackered after 70 minutes (whereas before we wouldn't start playing till then) suggests there's been some big changes already, which I can't imagine have gone down too well. The perception was it was like a holiday camp before hand, so I imagine it has been quite a shock. A necessary one though.

Odd as it sounds given he has been one of our better performers, I worry about Marshall's current mindset.

I was watching the warm-up before Lambert's first home game and Rob Kelly was warming up the strikers. He was trying his best to cajole the strikers and get them up for it. One particular drill, he dropped the ball to their feet, one player at a time, then grabbed their shirt for a second to force them to 'fight' him for the ball, get by him and shoot. With Marshall, Kelly was having to shout at him to get him to come close enough to start the drill, "closer, closer" with a beckoning hand. Eventually Marshall complied but after his turn, he ambled back shaking his head. As though - I'm too good for this. That might be unfair but that's the impression he gave, and that was in front of the fans. Imaging what he might be like on the training pitch. His form under Lambert has been poor but while Rhodes isn't scoring he isn't being highlighted.

It only takes one bad egg. Hopefully I'm reading too much into what I saw and he was just shaking his head at himself for his own form but it didn't look like it. If I was Rob Kelly I'd have tipped off Lambert and be keeping a close eye on things like that. We need all of the players pulling in the same direction - regardless of their natural ability. Especially when the likes of Chris Taylor - another honest pro - have been dropped down the pecking order.

Very worrying and perhaps not too surprising as Leicester thought he wasn't worth persevering with - clearly there is some motivational issue there. Shame as when he plays well he is very good, and his versatility is another bonus. Really need the likes of him to step up, but in fairness he has been poor most of the season both under Bowyer and Lambert. Gutting for us and the lad if he can't make more of his undoubted talent.

When I read Bowyer's 8th and 9th placed finishes being touted as achievements it makes me realise how far expectations across the fanbase have fallen. A 43 goal strike force and 9th being a good finish, ffs. It's little wonder Lambert had to remind the fans that accepting mediocrity is not good enough.

Excellent post, although for a rookie manager assembling a squad 8th wasn't a huge failure. The manner in which we did it though flatters him as we never really were in the race for the playoffs till the pressure was off - and we still bottled it! A ruthless owner would've fired him at the end of the season, and even if you weren't being ruthless then the plan should have been come the following October at the latest he would go if we weren't shaping up.

The season after though was utterly criminal - Rhodes, King, Cairney, Baptiste, Duffy, Hanley, Olsson, Gestede, Marshall, Hanley and Conway - there's a top 6 team in there easily.

[JAL]

Baloney come from you pal.

You are the one with all this negative comments about these things.

What league are Rovers in and what's their current position within this league ?

Why did you praise Neals negative comment about young Willem Tomlinson.

Why do you support the error strewn Shane Duffy ?

[DE.]

Excellent post, although for a rookie manager assembling a squad 8th wasn't a huge failure.

I agree that for somebody of Bowyer's experience 8th was a good finish on a personal level for him, and similarly you could say the same for 9th, but as far as the club is concerned both seasons were failures and the last shot we had before the squad became significantly weakened thanks to the embargo. Lambert is essentially having to start from square one.

[K-Hod]

If hazard a guess that he supports players that play for Rovers because they do exactly that JAL.

[tomphil]

Odd as it sounds given he has been one of our better performers, I worry about Marshall's current mindset.

I was watching the warm-up before Lambert's first home game and Rob Kelly was warming up the strikers. He was trying his best to cajole the strikers and get them up for it. One particular drill, he dropped the ball to their feet, one player at a time, then grabbed their shirt for a second to force them to 'fight' him for the ball, get by him and shoot. With Marshall, Kelly was having to shout at him to get him to come close enough to start the drill, "closer, closer" with a beckoning hand. Eventually Marshall complied but after his turn, he ambled back shaking his head. As though - I'm too good for this. That might be unfair but that's the impression he gave, and that was in front of the fans. Imaging what he might be like on the training pitch. His form under Lambert has been poor but while Rhodes isn't scoring he isn't being highlighted.

It only takes one bad egg. Hopefully I'm reading too much into what I saw and he was just shaking his head at himself for his own form but it didn't look like it. If I was Rob Kelly I'd have tipped off Lambert and be keeping a close eye on things like that. We need all of the players pulling in the same direction - regardless of their natural ability. Especially when the likes of Chris Taylor - another honest pro - have been dropped down the pecking order.

Going in Ewood early this & last season I've watched a dozen or so warm ups and in the shooting drills Marshall has always been just about the worst. He's always shaking his head, not sure whether it's in anger at himself or not but going off watching those drills in the past not many hit the target that often. Apart from one who hardly missed, not difficult to guess who.

[JAL]

If hazard a guess that he supports players that play for Rovers because they do exactly that JAL.

So why did he praise Neals damming post on young Willem Tomlinson ?

[K-Hod]

So why did he praise Neals damming post on young Willem Tomlinson ?

You'd have to ask him, though I seem to recall him saying 'that's a shame', quite different wouldn't you say?

[Blue blood]

I agree that for somebody of Bowyer's experience 8th was a good finish on a personal level for him, and similarly you could say the same for 9th, but as far as the club is concerned both seasons were failures and the last shot we had before the squad became significantly weakened thanks to the embargo. Lambert is essentially having to start from square one.

I totally agree (without wanting to sound contrary!) and totally championed an experienced chap and the need for promotion both seasons saying it was now or never (goodness me, how many chances have we had to escape this mess, more then we ever imagined.) Happily I was mistaken on both of those.

Agree with you for the club both were a failure, but for Bowyer in fairness so not to come across as a hater and to give him his due, 8th was fine as a finish, if a disappointing, what if, situation for him. The failure that season was the board for appointing him. 9th though, for club and Bowyer as a professional was a nightmare miss and showed he hadn't learned anything from his mistakes.

[oldjamfan1]

So why did he praise Neals damming post on young Willem Tomlinson ?

Why don't you go to games JAL?

You seem to have a complete downer on Duffy, who has been one of our better performers this season. Now that might be a sad indicment on the rest of the squad, but you seem to constantly single that particular player out for criticism, despite apparently not going to games.

You also seem to be hounding certain posters who have made positive comments about Duffy or produced stats to show that he's not quite as bad as you would make out. He's a young centre half playing in a brutal division so he will make the odd mistake.

Odd as it sounds given he has been one of our better performers, I worry about Marshall's current mindset.

I was watching the warm-up before Lambert's first home game and Rob Kelly was warming up the strikers. He was trying his best to cajole the strikers and get them up for it. One particular drill, he dropped the ball to their feet, one player at a time, then grabbed their shirt for a second to force them to 'fight' him for the ball, get by him and shoot. With Marshall, Kelly was having to shout at him to get him to come close enough to start the drill, "closer, closer" with a beckoning hand. Eventually Marshall complied but after his turn, he ambled back shaking his head. As though - I'm too good for this. That might be unfair but that's the impression he gave, and that was in front of the fans. Imaging what he might be like on the training pitch. His form under Lambert has been poor but while Rhodes isn't scoring he isn't being highlighted.

It only takes one bad egg. Hopefully I'm reading too much into what I saw and he was just shaking his head at himself for his own form but it didn't look like it. If I was Rob Kelly I'd have tipped off Lambert and be keeping a close eye on things like that. We need all of the players pulling in the same direction - regardless of their natural ability. Especially when the likes of Chris Taylor - another honest pro - have been dropped down the pecking order.

Stu, while I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment of your post, be careful when it comes to describing Marshall as a 'bad egg'. He has apparently had depression issues in the past and, for the lad's sake, I hope it is just a bad attitude at the moment and nothing worse than that. I'm not breaching a confidence, it is in the public domain.

[JAL]

Why don't you go to games JAL?

You seem to have a complete downer on Duffy, who has been one of our better performers this season. Now that might be a sad indicment on the rest of the squad, but you seem to constantly single that particular player out for criticism, despite apparently not going to games.

You also seem to be hounding certain posters who have made positive comments about Duffy or produced stats to show that he's not quite as bad as you would make out. He's a young centre half playing in a brutal division so he will make the odd mistake.

Too right if he's making costly errors or getting away with errors then it should be pointed out for an accurate record of the player.

He's ok when the ball is in the air coming directly towards him that's playing to his strengths. Turn him sideways on put the ball in the air and then that strength becomes slightly diminished somewhat.

His passing or distribution is dreadful - now try justify this part of his game?

Putting the ball in the net from attacking positions seems another weakness of Shane Duffy's at least when big Col was he was young and rash could put the ball in the back of the net to redeem himself from any errors unlike Shane.

So far he's not the ideal partner for young Grant Hanley and that's from my experience.

[Gav]

Why don't you go to games JAL?

You seem to have a complete downer on Duffy, who has been one of our better performers this season. Now that might be a sad indicment on the rest of the squad, but you seem to constantly single that particular player out for criticism, despite apparently not going to games.

You also seem to be hounding certain posters who have made positive comments about Duffy or produced stats to show that he's not quite as bad as you would make out. He's a young centre half playing in a brutal division so he will make the odd mistake.

Absolutely

Too right if he's making costly errors or getting away with errors then it should be pointed out for an accurate record of the player.

He's ok when the ball is in the air coming directly towards him that's playing to his strengths. Turn him sideways on put the ball in the air and then that strength becomes slightly diminished somewhat.

His passing or distribution is dreadful - now try justify this part of his game?

Putting the ball in the net from attacking positions seems another weakness of Shane Duffy's at least when big Col was he was young and rash could put the ball in the back of the net to redeem himself from any errors unlike Shane.

So far he's not the ideal partner for young Grant Hanley and that's from my experience.

You said Phil Jones wouldn't get a game down Pleasington, so you're hardly an expert on centre backs JAL.

Duffy has been very good this season along with Grant Hanley, you should go down once in a while as TV replays are clouding any judgement you may have.

[JAL]

You'd have to ask him, though I seem to recall him saying 'that's a shame', quite different wouldn't you say?

Put the post up !

[AllRoverAsia]

Too right if he's making costly errors or getting away with errors then it should be pointed out for an accurate record of the player.

He's ok when the ball is in the air coming directly towards him that's playing to his strengths. Turn him sideways on put the ball in the air and then that strength becomes slightly diminished somewhat.

His passing or distribution is dreadful - now try justify this part of his game?

Putting the ball in the net from attacking positions seems another weakness of Shane Duffy's at least when big Col was he was young and rash could put the ball in the back of the net to redeem himself from any errors unlike Shane.

So far he's not the ideal partner for young Grant Hanley and that's from my experience.

Hanley is older and more experienced than Duffy and both are still young as far as CBs are concerned. Patience is needed to allow their partnership to develop.

[JAL]

Absolutely

You said Phil Jones wouldn't get a game down Pleasington, so you're hardly an expert on centre backs JAL.

Find the Chelsea Rovers game at Ewood when Phil was MoM and show us what I said Gav.

Hanley is older and more experienced than Duffy and both are still young as far as CBs are concerned. Patience is needed to allow their partnership to develop.

Fair enough but you do realise that Rovers won't gain promotion whilst he performing as he currently is.

[Gav]

Find the Chelsea Rovers game at Ewood when Phil was MoM and show us what I said Gav.

You said week in week out Phil Jones wouldn't get a game down Pleasington, we all read it and ignored it.