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Tyrone Shoelaces Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Gordon is a moron I remember the song Jilted John by Jilted John ? I think he goes under the name of John Shuttleworth now.
oldjamfan1 Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Jilted John by Jilted John ? I think he goes under the name of John Shuttleworth now. He must have finally kept hold of a bird then.
only2garners Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 Jilted John by Jilted John ? I think he goes under the name of John Shuttleworth now. His real name is Graham Fellows, but his alter ego John Shuttleworth is one of the great comedy characters.
Steve Kean's Hypnotoad Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 This is where the mentality of some football supporters lets the sport down. Yes, a minority of Bolton Wanderers fans are idiots, but that's only the same as us and any other club, (I've been to the away game for the last few years and it's been an outing for our idiots). We all know it's not our main derby match, but they are still local rivals and I know from experience dating back to the early 80's that the matches have a bit of spice. We should look at this and count our blessings as it could so easily have been us. It's also reported that Phil Gartside is "gravely ill" so that's an even sadder twist to the story. I wish him well. Does it? In my opinion animosity for the opposition is an integral part of the passion which is the lifeblood of football and is what distinguishes it from every other sport in this country. Football fans are often compared unfavourably with rugby fans, well that may be true but I don't see how it translates to "letting the sport down" when their numbers, in terms of attendances and watching it on TV, vastly outnumber rugby fans and fans of every other sport (probably combined). Tribalism in football is increasingly under attack, maybe rightly so, but if its removed completely then so will the songs, the noise, the current attendance levels and a sizeable chunk of TV viewers. And I honestly just outright don't agree with the argument that every club has the same minority of idiots. Every club does have a minority of idiots, but I can guarantee you Millwall's is percentage wise vastly bigger than say Fulham's, and I'm pretty sure Bolton's, and Burnley's for that matter, are a fair bit bigger than ours.
only2garners Posted December 9, 2015 Posted December 9, 2015 I just checked the ticket situation as I want to have top tier tickets. There are a couple of hundred lower tier left which they expect will be gone after the Rotherham game.
yoda Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35061309 I wonder if the parties interested in notlob are hanging about to get the club for next to nought !
tomphil Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Just watch they'll be taken over just before they play us with the promise of spending and a wave of uphoria will sweep over the Macaroon. Can see it coming along with the annual defeat
deryck guyler's spoon Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 Just watch they'll be taken over just before they play us with the promise of spending and a wave of uphoria will sweep over the Macaroon. Can see it coming along with the annual defeat There are rumours of a UAE consortium showing interest. It's a bit reminiscent of when Taksin Franksinatra pulled out of Citeh and it looked as though they could go to the wall. The next news was that the Sheikhs were in and the rest is history.
tomphil Posted December 10, 2015 Posted December 10, 2015 There are rumours of a UAE consortium showing interest. It's a bit reminiscent of when Taksin Franksinatra pulled out of Citeh and it looked as though they could go to the wall. The next news was that the Sheikhs were in and the rest is history. Don't say that Maybe we could turn up and rain on their parade then.
JHRover Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 There are rumours of a UAE consortium showing interest. It's a bit reminiscent of when Taksin Franksinatra pulled out of Citeh and it looked as though they could go to the wall. The next news was that the Sheikhs were in and the rest is history. Bit of a difference in situations. City were already established in the Premier League with a 48,000 stadium and average gates of 40,000+ even when struggling. Everything was in place to take them on to another level and compete with the big boys in a short period of time with massive spending on new players. The potential as a city club was there to compete. Bolton are miles away from the position City that were in when Shinawatra sold up. They are a town club like ourselves, but bottom of the Championship, favourites for relegation to the third division, and even when in the top flight struggled to get much more than 20-25,000 a week. Even if they somehow manage to stay up this season it will require a significant outlay to get them into shape for promotion and survival in the Premier League. Any Arabs with serious cash and plans along the lines of what happened at City would surely be looking at available clubs like Villa, Newcastle, Everton or West Brom. Even Wolves are on the market at the moment and a far better investment than Bolton at this moment in time with greater potential. Bolton seem to be attractive because of the land they possess. The training ground at Euxton is worth a bob or two and the land at Middlebrook could easily be developed into retail/leisure/office use fairly cheaply like the surrounding area has. Suddenly its worth a lot of money right by the M61. From a football point of view I can't see any reason to get involved in a club like Bolton in its current state.
Stuart Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Can't really share the vitriol I have some good friends who support Bolton. There but for the grace of God go I. http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-2845297.aspx
koi Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 Bolton already have loans secured against some of the land and they sold the carparks off last year.
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted December 11, 2015 Moderation Lead Posted December 11, 2015 Can't really share the vitriol I have some good friends who support Bolton. There but for the grace of God go I. http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-2845297.aspx As do I. That being said, the way they've gone on about us during our plight makes me lack sympathy for a lot of them.
JHRover Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I'd never wish for any club to disappear (except MK Dons and any other franchise club). Local clubs and rivalries are a central and historical of following football. That being said I certainly won't be disappointed if Bolton drop down the leagues and stay there for years to come, as I'm sure most Bolton supporters would enjoy the same happening to us. Good times and bad times are part of the game.
Stuart Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 As do I. That being said, the way they've gone on about us during our plight makes me lack sympathy for a lot of them. Not all of them but I take your point.
Baz Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Given that the major debtor has said he's willing to write off the debt, maybe the takeover parties are welcoming administration as a way of clearing the debt owed to others before they step in and take over. Given their points tally they'll be struggling to stay up this season anyway, so the points deduction may become irrelevant. I hope they don't go to the wall, despite playing them being a derby for them, and a local game for us. Have seen a few post match punches thrown outside the ground by the trotters. Above all though, still have that feeling of it still could be us.
tomphil Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Disgraceful how the fans are having to have whip rounds to pay the everyday staff at Wanderers when the directors are millionaires, probably having sucked a lot out of the club. The owners are multi multi millionaires and a lot of the players will be very well off indeed yet no one will stick their hand in their pocket to pay those who need it most. tossers!
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I just know how devastated I would feel if Rovers were in the same position.Their fans are a bunch of gobby sods who have a chip on their shoulders but wouldn't wish their troubles on anyone.
Jock Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I'd like them relegated then go bump. Set up again with idiot Holdsworth fronting them. Start next season on -10 points. Give them something to be really bitter about. Horrible pigs.
AggyBlue Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 I'd prefer them to change their name back to Horwich RMI and join the Evostick
deryck guyler's spoon Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 I'd prefer them to change their name back to Horwich RMI and join the Evostick Harsh but funny.
Backroom Tom Posted December 13, 2015 Backroom Posted December 13, 2015 Hope they pull through, quite like to see them relegated of course but you hope they survive as a club!
arbitro Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 No end in sight for them. There is a fear that some players will walk away from their contracts if they don't get paid. I guess the vultures will be circling soon. http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14142098.Lennon__From_what_I_gather_players_and_staff_at_Wanderers_will_not_be_paid_this_month/?ref=mr&lp=1
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