[Archived] Bolton V Rovers - 28/12/15

[imy9]

Lambert has won 3 out of 7 games so far. that is a far superior record than Bowyer DESPITE playing so badly. looking forward to the transfer window

[ABBEY]

Lambert has won 3 out of 7 games so far. that is a far superior record than Bowyer DESPITE playing so badly. looking forward to the transfer window

Don't normally agree with you but f me the abuse for lambert is truly appalling and disgusting . How anyone can say this is his team actually buggers belief

[Husky]

We made Liam Feeney look like Raheem Sterling today.

If only we could sign someone with such skill and pace.

[imy9]

Don't normally agree with you but f me the abuse for lambert is truly appalling and disgusting . How anyone can say this is his team actually buggers belief

I respect what Bowyer did, however Lambert has joined mid season. there is only so much a new manager can do with a squad of players he has inherited. a squad which has been hit by an embargo and has some very average players. he needs time and at least a season to judge him.

[Amo]

It's games like these that will separate the men from the boys and show Lambert who's worth keeping and who's not.

[roverandout]

None then? Rhodes apart

[thewarhurstward]

It's games like these that will separate the men from the boys and show Lambert who's worth keeping and who's not.

On today's showing, three at most are worth keeping.

Absolute bobbins and will get worse.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

It's games like these that will separate the men from the boys and show Lambert who's worth keeping and who's not.

Well, I can't wait for Lambert to get to work and start shaping that squad. His problem will be moving some of the dross on. Who will take the likes of Koita and Guthrie? More paying off contracts?

[Amo]

Well, I can't wait for Lambert to get to work and start shaping that squad. His problem will be moving some of the dross on. Who will take the likes of Koita and Guthrie? More paying off contracts?

Could be wrong but I believe Spurr, Taylor, Kilgallon, Williamson, Delfouneso, & Brown are all out of contract next season, so that should free up the wage bill.

[chaddyrovers]

Lambert on BBC Radio Lancs post match

https://audioboom.com/boos/4000163-we-got-what-we-deserved-onerovers-manager-paul-lambert-s-assessment-of-bolton-defeat

[J*B]

Went to the game today, read earlier on someone on here posting that Kiota had a good game which I didn't reply to, but I've since seen Lambert praising Kiota? I'm not a football manger, but as far as I could see today - Kiota was a disgrace to the shirt. He has all the attributes but has absolutely no idea what he is doing, which is why he will never get any higher than this as a footballer and will be dropped by Rovers. As far as I can see his runs actually hampen our attacks, he took the ball off Gutheries toe in our quickest counter of the game, slowed everything down and ended up losing the ball out wide. When attacking he doesn't move into space, he follows the ball in straight lines, which actually condensed the space available to us. Can't head, can't finish, can't hold it up, I'm not sure what he actually offers. The sooner January comes the better on striking options.

Preferred Lawrence and Rhodes as a front two, saying that Delfounso played quite well and created opportunities and space with his running both with and without the ball.

Akpan isn't brilliant, but realistically what where we going to get as a free under 10k a week? Same applies for Guthrie. Desperately need some creativity centrally and some pace either out wide or up front to stretch the play and make room for Rhodes. Always championed Rhodes but if we can get our 8m back and can actually spend it he deserves to move on now, he can't do it all on his own and we are so desperate for quality in other positions on the pitch it seems the only option to let him go.

[Gav]

The squads poor, it was poor under Bowyer but posters blamed the manager, it's poor under Lambert and posters are now blaming the quality of player....

We have a good manager and back room staff for the first time in 5yrs, they like us know what's wrong, but can't fix it in 6wks, get a grip FFS.

It's all about next season.

[BlueMonday]

We're worse now than under Bowyer IMO. You can't ignore it.

His points tally Knocks Bowyer out of the Park Jim. But it's not about Bowyer v Lambert comparisons. No one is arguing that performances are good, we're saying give him time. Getting on PLs back is counter productive. As I said in another thread, using the logic of some on here They'd have been calling for Dalgliesh's head.

[JBiz]

Kiota was a disgrace to the shirt. He has all the attributes but has absolutely no idea what he is doing, which is why he will never get any higher than this as a footballer and will be dropped by Rovers. As far as I can see his runs actually hampen our attacks, he took the ball off Gutheries toe in our quickest counter of the game, slowed everything down and ended up losing the ball out wide. When attacking he doesn't move into space, he follows the ball in straight lines, which actually condensed the space available to us. Can't head, can't finish, can't hold it up, I'm not sure what he actually offers. The sooner January comes the better on striking options.

Akpan isn't brilliant, but realistically what where we going to get as a free under 10k a week? Same applies for Guthrie. Desperately need some creativity centrally and some pace either out wide or up front to stretch the play and make room for Rhodes. Always championed Rhodes but if we can get our 8m back and can actually spend it he deserves to move on now, he can't do it all on his own and we are so desperate for quality in other positions on the pitch it seems the only option to let him go.

Koita should be afforded the same "but realistically what where we going to get as a free under 10k a week" Akpan gets, but I agree with much of what you say in terms of his movement off ball. The strange thing is though he looked better because he won a few aerial knock downs and would've been clean through if Marshall could pass.

Rhodes - it's kind of hard to watch him at moment. I'm guessing he's just extremely starved of confidence, luck or maybe even a bit of head turning.

I still think the money turned out a good investment and I'd rather we keep and get him firing again.

My worst player today was Henley. Where to start!

[Martin]

Today was absolute trash. Up there with a dreadful away performance against Sheffield United in the old division one.

It's difficult to defend anyone after today. Players and management have to accept that today was pathetic. No excuses.

The players never started and looked unenthusiastic throughout. Lambert made some strange choices with subs and the timing of them.

The Appleton comparison is interesting (and worrying). Having been to Reading and Bolton I have to say we do not look like scoring. Not one bit. At least with Bowyer we gave it a right good go.

We desperately need some pace and creativity in this team. We are slow and predictable. Bolton looked powerful and quick. We looked like a team of Christmas Puddings. (I'm not even sure what that means!)

I'm not expecting Lambert and his staff to fix things immediately but when he joined he talked of 'playing on the front foot' and 'playing entertaining football that would get fans on the edge of their seats'. I've not seen any evidence yet. I think it was PR line for fans and the owners.

On the players, somebody hit the nail on the head earlier, there isn't one player I'd be bothered about losing. I'd sell Rhodes tomorrow if we can reinvest that money in the squad.

Bad day for Rovers. But I'll be at Cardiff, who knows, Duffy might score a header.

[blueboy3333]

Well, that was poor. No discernable plan bar lumping it to Koita, we sat far too deep against a team that were absolute bobbins and who we made look half-decent. That was cowards football. We only showed some urgency when we went behind.

Steele - Did ok, his kicking was a lot better, couldn't do much for the goal - 7

Henley - not as bad a some on here say but he tends to lose concentration. Covered well at times and put a couple of good crosses in. Good squad player but shouldn't be an automatic starter - 6

Duffy - Awful defending for the their goal but generally played quite well. He shouldn't go up for corners anymore

until he can learn to keep the ball in the danger area. Allardyce would sort him out in 10 minutes. If you can't hit the target Shane just head the ball down in the direction of the goal - 6

Hanley - Played well, the one saving grace of the season so far - 8

Olsson - Had his hands full with Feeney but coped ok. Couldn't get forward buth that was as much to do with Marshall - 6

Conway - What's happened to him under Lambert? Playing on the right doesn't help him. He can't beat a man with pace so he has to come back on his weaker foot. Get him back on the left where he can check back and put quality crosses in. - 5

Guthrie - the kind of signing you get when you're under an embargo - a once decent player who was out of contract at his old club because they knew he was finished. Injuries have done for him. he can't press the ball because he doesn't have the pace/fitness required. He's the opposite of what Lambert needs. - 4

Akpan - at least he put himself about but his distribution was awful. Unfortunately he had to do the work of 2 men cos Guthrie was that bad - 5

Marshall - Tactical incompetence from Lambert. He should be on the right. Unlike Conway he can beat his man for pace so he can cross with his better foot. He kept going down the line and in doing so took all the space that Olsson likes to run into when Conway plays on the left and cuts inside. - 5

Rhodes - he didn't make any decent runs but he's probably bored of never getting the ball. He looks like someone who doesn't want to be here. He's been great for Rovers but i'd take £12m in a hearbeat if Lambert's tactic is going to be long punts to his head. - 4

Koita - won a few good headers but he looked a bit lost when he had time to think. Not a great footballing brain. Another who is a good squad player but nothing more - 5

Delf - Looked better than Rhodes simply because he tried to run in behind their back four

Lawrence - didn't do a lot but made a great run to near post but his finish let him down. Rhodes would probably have finished that chance, shame Lambert had took him off.

Lambert - What was the game plan? Why did we only show any intensity when we went behind? There's surely a lot more to coaching than getting players to run round like headless chickens pressing the opposition. These aren't his players but Rotherhams players aren't Redfearns and he got his team to batter a shyte Bolton side 4-0. We didn't have 4 shots. He played like this at Villa though so it's no surprise. Let's hope he can rediscover what he had going at Norwich.

[47er]

3 wins in 16 League games is giving "it a right good go"?

[47er]

We're worse now than under Bowyer IMO. You can't ignore it.

The stats say otherwise or did your hero Big Sam live in vain and its all about performance?

[DE.]

Koita should be afforded the same "but realistically what where we going to get as a free under 10k a week" Akpan gets, but I agree with much of what you say in terms of his movement off ball. The strange thing is though he looked better because he won a few aerial knock downs and would've been clean through if Marshall could pass.

Let's be honest, chances are he would have missed anyway. The lad's a trier but nowhere near good enough. I just can't understand bringing on Delf rather than Lawrence. The former ran about a lot, but the latter has the quality which could make a difference. A baffling decision IMV.

Lambert on BBC Radio Lancs post match

https://audioboom.com/boos/4000163-we-got-what-we-deserved-onerovers-manager-paul-lambert-s-assessment-of-bolton-defeat

No excuses from Lambert there. The total opposite to Bowyer. When asked about the penalty we could have had, simply responded "I expect better from us to win a game". He'll know he has a real job on his hands here, and some players may have played themselves out of the club today, whether that be in January or the summer.

[roverandout]

refreshing to hear honesty rather than bowyers bull

[AllRoverAsia]

Not saying he would have done better - but the latter performances under Bowyer were better than they have been under PL so far.

Comparing s-hite with crap

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just had a look at my record book. Mark Hughes came in as our manager on the 16th of Sept, we won the very next game at home to Portsmouth 1-0. Between then and a 1-0 win at Bolton on the 26th of Dec we won ONE game ! That was 2-0 away at Fulham on Nov 27 th. That's 1 win in more than three months.

[Rover_Shaun]

Jesus Tyrone if that had repeated itself half this board would have cast themselves into an in spate River Darwen. Currently they are just at the Chicken Lickin stage

Hopefully Lambert will have the same affect in the transfer market as Hughes and hopefully a lot better than the last managers so-called 'gems'...who ironically are part of a poor team.

[deryck guyler's spoon]

Just had a look at my record book. Mark Hughes came in as our manager on the 16th of Sept, we won the very next game at home to Portsmouth 1-0. Between then and a 1-0 win at Bolton on the 26th of Dec we won ONE game ! That was 2-0 away at Fulham on Nov 27 th. That's 1 win in more than three months.

Would the pick up in results after that three months have coincided with us earning the epithet 'Blackbruise Rovers'? How we could use an Andy Todd now.

[LDRover]

Would the pick up in results after that three months have coincided with us earning the epithet 'Blackbruise Rovers'? How we could use an Andy Todd now.

Yes. We need a couple of right hard bstards to crack a few heads in the dressing room and on the pitch.