[Archived] Transfer Window - January 2016

[chaddyrovers]

Norwood is a dingle. So that's a no go from me.

He was born there.

But never played for them

[Tom]

Hang on, you haven't heard of Gaston Ramirez? The guy was a big deal. Hasn't fulfilled potential

Gaston is quite a guy.

When he was a boy he ate four dozen eggs every morning to help him get large! Now that he's grown he eats five dozen eggs and is roughly the size of a barge!

[Iceman]

Norwood is a dingle. So that's a no go from me.

Did Dunny not attend a school in Burnley, or play for some Dingle team? or am i imagining that

[chor808]

Of course its a big decision cos with 9 million pounds you could bring in 4 or 5 quality players to improve the squad.

Im not determined to sell Rhodes but see both sides of the argument

Chaddy unless you have a crystal ball you have no idea where any of that money would go. For sure it would not be 9 million to spend as we have to pay hudd and agents etc..

It may all go back in the Venkys pockets or just pay down our debt with a few hundred thousand released to Lambert.

Why take the risk we have a proven goalscorer on a long contract, lets keep him and enjoy his goals. He is about the only highlight in the past five years.

[JHRover]

He was born there.

But never played for them

Born there, played there, lived there, all amount to the same thing for me. Past association with that club or town and I don't want them anywhere near Ewood Park. That counts for players, coaches, managers, tea ladies, cleaners, you name it.

Don't know why anyone would want someone representing Blackburn Rovers having made comments like these:

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/huddersfield-town/blackburn-rovers-v-huddersfield-town-norwood-on-double-mission-as-town-eye-survival-1-5587071

[Mattyblue]

Did Dunny not attend a school in Burnley, or play for some Dingle team? or am i imagining that

Some of his family supported Burnley, as unfortunately Great Harwood has a few Dingles knocking about, but luckily his Grandad ensured he saw the light.

[K-Hod]

I've no problem in isolation with a Dingle playing for us, it's more whether or not they would, which I have my doubts about!

[sjsbrfc]

Born there, played there, lived there, all amount to the same thing for me. Past association with that club or town and I don't want them anywhere near Ewood Park. That counts for players, coaches, managers, tea ladies, cleaners, you name it.

Don't know why anyone would want someone representing Blackburn Rovers having made comments like these:

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/huddersfield-town/blackburn-rovers-v-huddersfield-town-norwood-on-double-mission-as-town-eye-survival-1-5587071

I'm a Rovers fan. I have been for 40 years.

Yet I was born in Burnley and still live there. Have you any problem with me going to Ewood?

If so I'll hand my season ticket back!

On my street alone there are 2 other Rovers fans.

Grow up and stop being so narrow minded

[JAL]

Chaddy unless you have a crystal ball you have no idea where any of that money would go. For sure it would not be 9 million to spend as we have to pay hudd and agents etc..

It may all go back in the Venkys pockets or just pay down our debt with a few hundred thousand released to Lambert.

Why take the risk we have a proven goalscorer on a long contract, lets keep him and enjoy his goals. He is about the only highlight in the past five years.

The clubs no money that's why they desperately need a Jordan sale.

[patrickvalery]

Re Koita. Rovers are starting to show a bit of a trend with regards foreign lads that come directly from abroad. They all fail miserably. I understand that people think he's crap, but he has played for the French u21 side, in ligue 1, and now a Turkish top flight side want him. Not saying he's a world beater, but like Dabo, Modeste, Rochina the Portuguese contingent etc, we can't seen to get a tune out of any of them. I wonder if we're doing all we can to help these players settle. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to convince anyone these players were the real deal. But the fact remains they all bombed spectacularly. If rovers are only able to bring in UK based talent then we're severely restricting our market. Maybe someone at the club should be looking at this and asking questions of themselves and not just the player.

[tomphil]

A £9 million sale of Rhodes at this juncture makes zero football or financial sense.

Lets remember that we paid £8 million for him and that he still has 3.5 years remaining on his contract. Huddersfield are entitled to 25% of any profit. So sell him now and it puts us in even greater danger of relegation with a measly £750,000 profit to show for his 80 odd Championship goals in 3.5 seasons.

That's simply not a good enough offer. And I would hope the board would veto such a move regardless of the manager's opinion. Sometimes the board has to overrule the manager if a decision isn't in the club's financial interests. Losing our prized asset for less profit than we've just made on Olsson and Koita is inconceivable, and sometimes a manager has to accept that even if he wants to cash in on a player, if the bids don't reach a worthwhile level then the club can't just take whatever is offered.

I've no problem if Lambert is looking to cash in on Rhodes and use the money to rebuild, but that has to be done in the summer and ONLY if the money brought in is at a sufficient level to justify letting him go. Losing him for £750,000 profit would be a catastrophe for this club. We need to be looking at £12 million guaranteed up front so that we get a good £3 million profit on what we paid for him.

Middlesbrough are playing games, just like they did last summer and like they have all January with Ross McCormack to the extent that he's now kicking up a fuss at Fulham to try and get a transfer.

Our Championship survival is far more important than £750,000 or satisfying Middlesbrough's craving to spend big money beyond FFP allowances just for the sake of it.

Lambert has enough to sort out in replacing Olsson, Lawrence and sorting out midfield before offloading the only player we have who can put the ball in the net.

Considering it's been said that the owners or one of them has personally been putting in money for the instalments to pay for JR then it's entirely possible they might want it back, maybe even a profit on the investment.

After the sell on, agents fees, other fingers in the pie and associated costs we'd be lucky to have a million to reinvest. We'd then be relying on the generosity of the owners stumping up again, would that happen if they had an eye of getting rid of the club soon having got the initial money back for JR. It's a really ropey situation.

If all or most of the cash was going back in then fair enough although still a big gamble but considering PL has no guarantee he can spend the small amount we are getting for Olsson where does it leave us ?

[Lancaster Rover]

I think you've also got to look at the leagues we are buying form and asking are they comparable in terms of quality with the Championship.

The Championship is a very tough league and looking over recent years a number of promoted teams have gone on to do really well in the prem, it may not be the best league in terms of quality but I'd say its one of the toughest leagues to win, given the margins between success and failure are so fine.

If you look at say Ligue 1, the teams at the bottom would struggle in the championship IMO, so if we are buying players who are struggling to hold down a place in middle ranking to poor team in Ligue 1, I dont think they are going to come here and blow any doors off.

[JAL]

Anyone in for Brown yet ?

[Hanks]

Did Dunny not attend a school in Burnley, or play for some Dingle team? or am i imagining that

Dunny went to the local RC High school, It has a large catchment area which includes some feeder schools in Burnley but it is closer to Blackburn.

[JHRover]

I'm a Rovers fan. I have been for 40 years.

Yet I was born in Burnley and still live there. Have you any problem with me going to Ewood?

If so I'll hand my season ticket back!

On my street alone there are 2 other Rovers fans.

Grow up and stop being so narrow minded

Nope. Not unless you purport to be a Burnley fan or have represented Burnley FC. There's a difference between someone who lives in Burnley who choses to support Rovers in their spare time compared to Rovers going out of their way to employ/sign someone who has no affinity to BRFC and who has previously shown loyalty to Burnley or Burnley FC.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear enough. Of course I don't have a problem with genuine Rovers supporters who put their hard earned money into supporting Blackburn, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest where Rovers fans live or were born.

What bothers me is when people with a past allegiance to Burnley or Burnley FC are brought in to Blackburn Rovers when they don't need to be.

I don't want Barry Kilby to buy us, Alistair Campbell on our board of directors, I don't want Bob the Burnley fan earning a living in our club shop or selling burgers, I don't want self-confessed Burnley supporter Oliver Norwood running around representing Blackburn Rovers.

If that's me being childish or narrow minded then so be it. I don't like them and it would upset me to see any ex-Claret wearing blue and white or representing Blackburn. Duffy and Delfouneso is bad enough and they were only on short term loans, but someone like Norwood, who has admitted he supports them and his family wanted to see us relegated, I can't see past that for the sake of signing a player.

[den]

Just looked at this season and removed his goals, that removes 8 points which leaves us where? Bottom three just above Bolton.

That's a daft thing to say.

Assuming Venkys aren't going to throw millions into a transfer war chest this summer, then Lambert will need to raise funds. £9m for a guy of his limited ability is a no brainier. How else is he going to improve us enough to challenge the top two positions?

[K-Hod]

The clubs no money that's why they desperately need a Jordan sale.

Where have you heard this? Mani/Kamy have stated very contradictory statements, so one of you is wrong......

[JHRover]

But Lambert has already said that he is intending on signing 'big hitters' in the summer and competing for promotion next season. It seems to me to be highly unlikely that he would take the job and promise such signings and a promotion push purely on the basis that he could cash in on our prized asset and reinvest the proceeds.

There's no guarantee that anyone will even bid for Rhodes, be able to agree wages with him, or that the offer we receive will be remotely good enough.

So either Lambert is pinning all his hopes on someone buying Rhodes and him getting the proceeds to spend, or Venkys are going to give him good money regardless of sales, or these 'big hitters' he referred to are going to be cheap signings, or he has been completely misled as to the resources available to him.

Venkys need to cough up and give him money to spend in the summer without the need to generate cash through sales. We're going to be offloading close to double figures between now and then.

Koita

Petschi

Delfouneso

Jackson

Brown

Olsson

Spurr

Williamson

Kilgalllon

Lawrence

Graham

Lenighan

All that lot will be out of contract or their loans at an end by May. Lamberts job is to replace that bunch with a group capable of competing. We can't afford to sell the few good ones we do have to replace them.

[chor808]

That's a daft thing to say.

Assuming Venkys aren't going to throw millions into a transfer war chest this summer, then Lambert will need to raise funds. £9m for a guy of his limited ability is a no brainier. How else is he going to improve us enough to challenge the top two positions?

You don't know Venky are not going to throw millions at it and you also don't know how much of the nine million or whatever we could get would go to buy players.

Daft is selling your best player.

We can all go on about it till the cows come home but at the end of the day it is not our decision to make.

One thing about the Venkys that has been proved over and over is no one knows what they are going to do.

[Speedie Dived]

Selling Rhodes is just madness. I can't believe anyone would even think about it.

There was some premier league manager talking this weekend and I can't remember who but he commented on one of his players something like 'he is a goal scorer and every team needs one and there are very few around'. Seems like common sense to me.

Just looked at this season and removed his goals, that removes 8 points which leaves us where? Bottom three just above Bolton.

We don't get the money, they are not going to walk round and hand to the season ticket holders at half time. We have no idea where the money would go, agents, Venkys, other clubs share of it. It's not all going to go to building a new team. Then we have to find someone to replace him, oh and guess what they are not cheap unless you are very very lucky.

Plus I'd have to remove his poster from my 6 year olds room which would mean tears.

You are not taking into account who his replacement would be, now nobody knows this. Presume we wouldn't play with ten. Suppose we got two players who are both better?

I cannot think of another team in the Premier League/Championship who has a player that is a tremendous goal scorer but limited footballer.

[den]

You don't know Venky are not going to throw millions at it and you also don't know how much of the nine million or whatever we could get would go to buy players.

Daft is selling your best player.

We can all go on about it till the cows come home but at the end of the day it is not our decision to make.

One thing about the Venkys that has been proved over and over is no one knows what they are going to do.

You didn't answer my question though. Assuming the owners aren't going to throw millions at the current squad (also taking into account the high number of players out of contract) how is Lambert going to have us chasing the top two spots?

Or do we exist to purely supply a poor player with scoring opportunities?

[chor808]

You didn't answer my question though. Assuming the owners aren't going to throw millions at the current squad (also taking into account the high number of players out of contract) how is Lambert going to have us chasing the top two spots?

Or do we exist to purely supply a poor player with scoring opportunities?

We can go around in circles as you can't answer either. No one knows what will be available in the summer (or now in fact).

Come on he is not a poor player :-)

[Lancaster Rover]

Rhodes is beginning to remind me of Steve Bull in a number of ways.

[den]

We can go around in circles as you can't answer either. No one knows what will be available in the summer (or now in fact).

Come on he is not a poor player :-)

If the owners aren't going to plough millions into the club for transfers, then I would sell him assuming that the money was made available to the manager. There's an answer. It was easy.

What would you do?

[Speedie Dived]

We can go around in circles as you can't answer either. No one knows what will be available in the summer (or now in fact).

Come on he is not a poor player :-)

We don't know but Paul Lambert will know who is avaialble. I wouldn't sell now if a good replacement x 2 wasn't straight through the door.

If there is then £10 million ish is a lot of money to improve our team.