[Archived] Transfer Window - January 2016

[yoda]

90% of our problems stem from midfield,

PL will be concentrating on that in the transfer widow

[BlueMonday]

Because in his last full season at Villa they were the lowest scorers in all four divisions and they played horrible, dull football. Chief complaints from the Villa fans were lack of creativity, lots of sideways passing that came to nothing, and being utterly clueless tactically.

In his 7 games with us we haven't scored from open play and we play horrible, dull football.

He may come good but i think his early days at Norwich and Colchester were a bit of a false dawn as far as his managerial career is concerned. He seems to have become a very defensive coach with no idea how to create chances for his forwards. His signings will tell us a lot about how he wants us to play. Hopefully he'll sign forwards with pace and skill, and get someone in the centre of midfield who can give them the ball. He has already mentioned that we are short on height so we can expect a big forward to come in to replace Rhodes who i think he'll sell if a big enough bid comes in. By subbing Rhodes he is preparing the fans for his departure.

The real question is why do some have such belief in Lambert? He's hardly had a stellar career in management. Nigel Adkins has done what Lambert has and now he's back in Lg1.

BRFC is more important than Paul Lambert. It is up to Paul Lambert to prove he is good enough to manage BRFC. NOBODY wants him to fail but he will have to do a lot more than talk a good game in the press before he gets lauded as the 2nd coming, which some of you lot are doing already. He will certainly get my support on matchdays but he will have to improve considerably on his early showings. Performances on the pitch have gone steadily backwards to the point we looked like a League 2 outfit against Bolton.

Lets hope he improves given time and some new players. In the meantime, if performances like Bolton continue, he deserves to be on the brunt of some harsh criticism. We have essentially a mid-table Championship squad and have done for the last 3 years. He is making it look like a lot worse than that.

He has a record of promotion from this division, Prem experience and has a good coaching team, and is best prospect of success we've had in 5 years of chaos.

And I choose to give him time and my support, to build a team to get us promoted, not spit my dummy out of the pram after a few games because we are not playing like Barcelona.

[chaddyrovers]

There doesn't seem to be any plan, but basically you are saying that a good manager would decide on a tactic in advance, and refuse to deviate from that, rather than build a team around by far our best player?

If he just goes with the idea of direct football without any thought as to our current personnel, then he wont be successful.

Have you see Lambert change his plan yet? 7 games in.

Well thats why he will change the personal of the squad to his style and tactics.

Maybe he thinks our centre midfielder isnt suited to a passing style.

[JAL]

How's about we actually try and improve him instead! You never know, it might save a few bob that we don't have.

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You accept then that he has to improve for the good of the team and himself ?

[yoda]

Have you see Lambert change his plan yet? 7 games in.

Well thats why he will change the personal of the squad to his style and tactics.

Maybe he thinks our centre midfielder isnt suited to a passing style.

What if he thinks our midfield is not fit for purpose full stop

[JHRover]

So let's get this right. Rhodes has scored 20-25 a season six years running despite playing for an average team at Rovers.

Despite this the prevailing attitude appears to be that we should gratefully accept £12 million for him from Middlesbrough.

On the flip side Middlesbrough are seemingly destined for promotion yet don't appear bothered by Rhodes form, limitations or price. I'm sure their supporters won't be complaining if they spend so much money on him.

Who's right? Karanka and Gibson, destined for the Premier League, willing to break the bank to get Rhodes?

Or the opinions of some Rovers fans who think we can do better and the money is too good to turn down, whilst not being too much for a club of equal stature to pay out?

[T J Hooker]

Stop flaming. Play the ball not the man.

why dont you take your own advice,

the ONLY reason you are making anti lambert posts like the one above is to get at people that weren't happy with bowyer,

Lambert is having to work with the dross that bowyer put together(a squad full of yes men without a real leader amongst them, no creative players and no real pace)

[AllRoverAsia]

So let's get this right. Rhodes has scored 20-25 a season six years running despite playing for an average team at Rovers.

Despite this the prevailing attitude appears to be that we should gratefully accept £12 million for him from Middlesbrough.

On the flip side Middlesbrough are seemingly destined for promotion yet don't appear bothered by Rhodes form, limitations or price. I'm sure their supporters won't be complaining if they spend so much money on him.

Who's right? Karanka and Gibson, destined for the Premier League, willing to break the bank to get Rhodes?

Or the opinions of some Rovers fans who think we can do better and the money is too good to turn down, whilst not being too much for a club of equal stature to pay out?

I dont think that selling Jordan is actually the prevailing attitude even on this MB.

It's just that those who push that idea have feck all else to do so are posting on here every few minutes.

IMO Lambert will keep Rhodes in January and look for the midfield creativity he has admitted we don't have. I'm sure Lambert know our midfield in very poor and needs an overhaul but can't all be done at once.

[Ribble Rover]

Who's right? Karanka and Gibson, destined for the Premier League, willing to break the bank to get Rhodes?

Or the opinions of some Rovers fans who think we can do better and the money is too good to turn down, whilst not being too much for a club of equal stature to pay out?

I'd say JR could be seen as the cherry on the cake for Boro whereas many rovers fans see 12m that could upgrade many parts of a team. I think we'd trust PL with the money more than GB so I'd be quite excited to see PL get this money and a bit more from the owners. I think he could put it to good use.

For Boro ? Lazy scouting and will warm the bench in the top league.

[Pedro]

So let's get this right. Rhodes has scored 20-25 a season six years running despite playing for an average team at Rovers.

Despite this the prevailing attitude appears to be that we should gratefully accept £12 million for him from Middlesbrough.

On the flip side Middlesbrough are seemingly destined for promotion yet don't appear bothered by Rhodes form, limitations or price. I'm sure their supporters won't be complaining if they spend so much money on him.

Who's right? Karanka and Gibson, destined for the Premier League, willing to break the bank to get Rhodes?

Or the opinions of some Rovers fans who think we can do better and the money is too good to turn down, whilst not being too much for a club of equal stature to pay out?

When a player stops performing for a club, it's a rarity that they suddenly get up and running again. As much as I want to be wrong, I've seen it x amount of times before and that lad wants a move.

[Amo]

Selling Rhodes is not a move I'd wager Lambert (or the owners) would make lightly. However, if he feels we need to sacrifice Rhodes for the greater good, then you've got to defer to him on this one, and he'll stand or fall by that decision.

[Jim Royle]

None of them are as good as Rhodes.

Look, I`m a better player than Jordan Rhodes.

Jordan Rhodes has a fantastic track record of scoring goals, but that is it, he ain't no player.

He hasn't scored in open play since.....Leeds Utd away, since then diddly, we might as well have played with 10 men.

If he is scoring goals, we live with it, if he ain't, it's a waste of a shirt.

Will he return to his historical self for rovers again?

Has he decided enough is enough?

Has he been told he is off?

No idea, but seeing him potter around pitch lately has been painful, I'm sure for him as much as for us.

Sometimes a divorce is the best for all parties.

[JHRover]

When a player stops performing for a club, it's a rarity that they suddenly get up and running again. As much as I want to be wrong, I've seen it x amount of times before and that lad wants a move.

Rhodes moves in peaks and troughs and has since he arrived here. He has a purple patch for 6-7 games then a barren spell for 6-7 games. If he didn't he'd be knocking on 40 goals a season.

I don't think he doesn't want to be here. Let's remember he's already had nine this season and it could have easily been more. But I accept he's probably getting frustrated with the service and support he's had which is what we need to rectify urgently.

[roversfan99]

Have you see Lambert change his plan yet? 7 games in.

Well thats why he will change the personal of the squad to his style and tactics.

Maybe he thinks our centre midfielder isnt suited to a passing style.

You are just ignoring my point, again and again!

You are guessing what Lamberts tactics will be, without foundation, then claiming that our best player doesnt suit them, and recommending inferior players to replace him.

You cant just come into a midtable championship club, with a preset tactic in mind, and play it regardess of personnel.

Whatever his current attacking tactics are, they arent working. Hopefully thats because hes not had time to implement them.

Build the team around our best player, try and get players in and around him, get quicker/cleverer players around him, dont isolate him and hoof aimless balls at him.

[Gav]

When a player stops performing for a club, it's a rarity that they suddenly get up and running again. As much as I want to be wrong, I've seen it x amount of times before and that lad wants a move.

What makes you think he's stopped performing?

He's struggling for a bit of form maybe, as are other players in the squad, but I'm sure he's not stopped performing on purpose if that's what you're implying?

Rhodes is a consumate professional, a credit to the club and his profession and I have no doubt he'll come good soon and start banging in the goals again.

[blueboy3333]

why dont you take your own advice,

the ONLY reason you are making anti lambert posts like the one above is to get at people that weren't happy with bowyer,

Lambert is having to work with the dross that bowyer put together(a squad full of yes men without a real leader amongst them, no creative players and no real pace)

I'm talking about football, not digging out other posters repeatedly. So wind yer neck in. And what you describe Bowyer doing is exactly what Lambert did at Villa. You aint seen nothing yet though. He once went on a 5 game losing spell without scoring once. He's a chancer that got lucky at Norwich and says the right things. No agenda, just very dubious about his reported 'qualities'. The evidence is already beginning to show. Hope i'm wrong cos were fecked if Lambert isn't up to scratch.

[joey_big_nose]

My feeling is if £12m really is on the table PL will take it. He clearly already has reservations about Rhodes, and with that sort of money he will reckon he can get in quality.

Rhodes started the season really well, probably the best he has ever played for us, but things are very very difficult once again.

[SoldierMo]

Look, I`m a better player than Jordan Rhodes.

Jordan Rhodes has a fantastic track record of scoring goals, but that is it, he ain't no player.

He hasn't scored in open play since.....Leeds Utd away, since then diddly, we might as well have played with 10 men.

If he is scoring goals, we live with it, if he ain't, it's a waste of a shirt.

Will he return to his historical self for rovers again?

Has he decided enough is enough?

Has he been told he is off?

No idea, but seeing him potter around pitch lately has been painful, I'm sure for him as much as for us.

Sometimes a divorce is the best for all parties.

What has marshall done all season or the other midfielders bar conway??

[LDRover]

I'm talking about football, not digging out other posters repeatedly. So wind yer neck in. And what you describe Bowyer doing is exactly what Lambert did at Villa. You aint seen nothing yet though. He once went on a 5 game losing spell without scoring once. He's a chancer that got lucky at Norwich and says the right things. No agenda, just very dubious about his reported 'qualities'. The evidence is already beginning to show. Hope i'm wrong cos were fecked if Lambert isn't up to scratch.

Odd statement that.

On the one hand you state quite definitely that he's a chancer who got lucky then temper it by saying his qualities are 'dubious'. I'd love you to expand on the 'lucky' claim though. How did Lambert get lucky to get promotion? Twice?

But to add to your post we were most definitely 'fecked' if we'd kept Bowyer in charge.

[JBiz]

You accept then that he has to improve for the good of the team and himself ?

Not just him. In all honesty, they should all be improving as that should be the intention of any professional.

[Steve Moss]

I agree but only if the money is reinvested in the team. Rhodes' stock is falling in my opinion and an offer of this magnitude (if the story is true) might never come around again.

I have no opinion on whether Rhodes should be sold or not. The only opinion that should matter on the issue is Lambert's.

But if he's sold for 12 million, how much would the Rovers see? Doesn't Huddersfield get a percentage? And wasn't the 8 million paid by one of the Rao brothers, who gets reimbursed on sale? I'm not saying that those 2 points are true, but that I seem to recall those statements being made when he was purchased.

If true, the only real benefit to selling Rhodes is getting his wages off the bill and maybe a few million net profit.

Just a thought.

[neophox]

I hope Rovers are working on getting players in on saturday

Deals should be sealed and not waiting

[chaddyrovers]

You are just ignoring my point, again and again!

You are guessing what Lamberts tactics will be, without foundation, then claiming that our best player doesnt suit them, and recommending inferior players to replace him.

You cant just come into a midtable championship club, with a preset tactic in mind, and play it regardess of personnel.

Whatever his current attacking tactics are, they arent working. Hopefully thats because hes not had time to implement them.

Build the team around our best player, try and get players in and around him, get quicker/cleverer players around him, dont isolate him and hoof aimless balls at him.

I'm guessing Lambert's tactics? Really, I've seen 5 out of 7 games and each time and direct style and in 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1(when Lawrence plays) but we have played the same way.

Under Lambert we havent change style once and I dont see him doing it for just for Rhodes. Do you see Lambert changing it for Rhodes cos I deffo dont. Do you?

Lambert current style and tactics dont suit Rhodes one bit. Thats clear to see surely?

Rhodes is our best player? Depends what you are basing that on and what attributes you are looking for.

Recommending inferior players? Really? Players like Gayle, Grabban, Crouch, Anichebe who are at Premier League clubs. Grabban was top scorer for Norwich last season when they got promote. Crouch has international caps for England.

[ABBEY]

Look, I`m a better player than Jordan Rhodes.

Jordan Rhodes has a fantastic track record of scoring goals, but that is it, he ain't no player.

He hasn't scored in open play since.....Leeds Utd away, since then diddly, we might as well have played with 10 men.

If he is scoring goals, we live with it, if he ain't, it's a waste of a shirt.

Will he return to his historical self for rovers again?

Has he decided enough is enough?

Has he been told he is off?

No idea, but seeing him potter around pitch lately has been painful, I'm sure for him as much as for us.

Sometimes a divorce is the best for all parties.

Your better than Rhodes ?

Who do you play for ?

[Speedie Dived]

So let's get this right. Rhodes has scored 20-25 a season six years running despite playing for an average team at Rovers.

Despite this the prevailing attitude appears to be that we should gratefully accept £12 million for him from Middlesbrough.

On the flip side Middlesbrough are seemingly destined for promotion yet don't appear bothered by Rhodes form, limitations or price. I'm sure their supporters won't be complaining if they spend so much money on him.

Who's right? Karanka and Gibson, destined for the Premier League, willing to break the bank to get Rhodes?

Or the opinions of some Rovers fans who think we can do better and the money is too good to turn down, whilst not being too much for a club of equal stature to pay out?

Just because Boro want him it doesn't justify him being a good footballer. If he did go the move might not work out?

The aim of football is not to get Rhodes to score 25 goals a year, it's for us to get promoted.

The team helps Jordan score 20 goals a year, Rhodes does not help the team.