AJW Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Agbonlahor if Rovers could afford him. Good to see an experienced centre half alongside Grant Don't see the attraction in Agbonlahor at all what do you think he can offer that we don't already have
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jw_ Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 So a lot of quality players are passing rovers by who are moving to other championship clubs whilst rovers are sitting idly allowing their only decent player to move on, pull your finger out lambert That comment is a bit harsh on Lambert and I doubt very much that he's sitting idly or needs to pull his finger out but maybe you are privy to his every move and even know what he is planning/thinking. He strikes me as the type of manager who knows what he wants and is quietly going about achieving it and I don't know how many times his comments about the next (summer) transfer window have to be repeated. Perhaps also a lot depends on the Rhodes deal.
koi Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 I've just woke up in a cold sweat; Shelfy pushing deals through on deadline day. The thought of him panicking with all the faxes he has to do, his little chubby fingers trying to hit the numbers he can barely see through the sweat getting in his eyes and his glasses steaming up whilst constantly chomping on his herbal remedies he rushed out to buy from the Herbal Inn in town. God knows who we could end up with.
joey_big_nose Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 http://m.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/14242504.Paul_Lambert__Blackburn_Rovers_will_be_stronger_in_the_long_run_for_selling_Jordan_Rhodes/?ref=macWhat an outstanding interview. PL could have said "id love to keep Jordan but my hand was forced by the board" or he could said the player made it happen.However he has squarely said he thinks he can do better with the money. Personally i think its a big risk, but we got a manager in who is supposed to know what he is doing so lets back him. We havent had a manager with that confidence since the times of Allardyce or Hughes. Im still amazed he took a job with his cv where he has to sell to buy, still dont get it, but hes squaring up and making some very big decisions - something for all his positive qualities bowyer couldnt do.
deryck guyler's spoon Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 I've just woke up in a cold sweat; Shelfy pushing deals through on deadline day. The thought of him panicking with all the faxes he has to do, his little chubby fingers trying to hit the numbers he can barely see through the sweat getting in his eyes and his glasses steaming up whilst constantly chomping on his herbal remedies he rushed out to buy from the Herbal Inn in town. God knows who we could end up with. Do you think we'll splurge before the window closes? I reckon we may have seen the last of this season's incomings and the Rhodes money can accrue interest whilst we work on summer targets.
Iceman Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Hmm that Sun article Chaddy posted mentions Pritchard from Spurs. Now he would be a good addition Also my idea was always to keep Rhodes. However, the money is just too good to turn down, as a bad a timing as it is. Our problem are not in defence or up front, but in midfield. We have no player able to pick up balls in the middle and drive forward. Currently we are so static, that our defence comes under constant heavy pressure. That means that our strikers are feeding off scraps, and not doing what they should be doing. Very important is getting in 1 or 2 players in the middle, who will dictate play, and force the opposition defenders into committing themselves and making mistakes.
Iceman Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 So a lot of quality players are passing rovers by who are moving to other championship clubs whilst rovers are sitting idly allowing their only decent player to move on, pull your finger out lambertDon't be silly now. Graham and Ward are both experienced players, likewise Jackson. Watt is a young guy still, but with his head in right frame of mind, he could be a really good player. Only player I have doubts about is Elliott Bennett, not sure on him.
Iceman Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 What Lambert said in that interview was great.
dingles staying down 4ever Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 What an outstanding interview. PL could have said "id love to keep Jordan but my hand was forced by the board" or he could said the player made it happen. However he has squarely said he thinks he can do better with the money. Personally i think its a big risk, but we got a manager in who is supposed to know what he is doing so lets back him. We havent had a manager with that confidence since the times of Allardyce or Hughes. Im still amazed he took a job with his cv where he has to sell to buy, still dont get it, but hes squaring up and making some very big decisions - something for all his positive qualities bowyer couldnt do. From the interviews from him I've heard I don't think he has had to sell. I'm get the feeling he has sold Rhodes because come summer his value would have decreased even further. Lets be honest, even with goals he has scored, there has hardly been a massive queue of clubs looking to buy, especially in the premiership. Come summer I suspect if Boro are in the premiership their eyes will look elsewhere. That leaves Wednesday as his only suitors. Would he really want to go there? Lambert has taken the money now in the hope of getting some extra cash.
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 I think he sold Rhodes because he wants to play a different way. A way that Rhodes wouldn't be suited to. None of the names we've been linked with so far have me on the edge of my seat but I'll wait and see.
Lancs Rover Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 I think he sold Rhodes because he wants to play a different way. A way that Rhodes wouldn't be suited to. None of the names we've been linked with so far have me on the edge of my seat but I'll wait and see. Exactly. He said as well that maybe we should have sold Jordan some time ago. My reading of that is that JR's style of play has prevented the team from developing. If you are midfielder who knows that your centre forward can't out sprint the centre half nor bully him, your options are limited. Lambert said that the club needed to be rebuilt now and has done for some time. That the club as a whole needs a coherent plan (not just money thrown at it, I guess.) I think that is how PL sees the Ewood role and probably explains at least partly why he is here.
Mani Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Yes, Lambert is all about the collective team performance but he's not the first to feel like this about Rhodes. The last regime felt exactly the same and actively courted his sale. The interesting thing is that Venkys actively blocked it every time...not so with PL which is proof that he has their backing. Based on what he said yesterday it would appear that they have huge plans for the summer. My feeling is that he'll strengthen any glaring shortages before Tuesday. Anything else will depend on what's available.
Speedie Dived Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Yes, Lambert is all about the collective team performance but he's not the first to feel like this about Rhodes. The last regime felt exactly the same and actively courted his sale. The interesting thing is that Venkys actively blocked it every time...not so with PL which is proof that he has their backing. Based on what he said yesterday it would appear that they have huge plans for the summer. My feeling is that he'll strengthen any glaring shortages before Tuesday. Anything else will depend on what's available. This is my exact understanding. So once again out owners stuck their nose in an effectively forced Bowyer to manage with one hand behind is back. All the managers fault though.
Lancs Rover Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 This is my exact understanding. So once again out owners stuck their nose in an effectively forced Bowyer to manage with one hand behind is back. All the managers fault though. He went with his head held high. He wasn't the first nor will he be last to be treated like that. I respected him but for me he's history now. We need to get behind PL and his plan, whatever it might be.
dingles staying down 4ever Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 This is my exact understanding. So once again out owners stuck their nose in an effectively forced Bowyer to manage with one hand behind is back. All the managers fault though. Or Balaji is now bored with football and couldn't care less what happens with his star player? Sorry used wrong quote
Parsonblue Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 I must admit to having been underwhelmed by Lambert up to this point but yesterday - with the performance at Oxford and his post match interview on Rovers TV - the guy really impressed me for the first time. He is absolutely correct that the club needs rebuilding and, with FFP, selling Rhodes was the only way to do it. Whilst it was easy for the owners to block their own internal appointment - in Bowyer - it would have been highly embarrassing for them to try to block the man that they have brought in to take the club forward. Hopefully, the summer will see some progress in terms of improving the quality of the squad. Certainly, the performances of Jackson, Ward and Watt yesterday suggested that Lambert is definitely on the right lines.
Mani Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 He went with his head held high. He wasn't the first nor will he be last to be treated like that. I respected him but for me he's history now. We need to get behind PL and his plan, whatever it might be. Honestly, Gaz is a brilliant bloke. He was an absolute god send in stabilising us in order to kick on. More importantly he genuinely cared. And when he went out n there weren't many who did!
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 This is my exact understanding. So once again out owners stuck their nose in an effectively forced Bowyer to manage with one hand behind is back. All the managers fault though. Then he should have asked to be returned to his previous post.
Lancs Rover Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Honestly, Gaz is a brilliant bloke. He was an absolute god send in stabilising us in order to kick on. More importantly he genuinely cared. And when he went out n there weren't many who did! Thanks for that, Mani.
Speedie Dived Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Then he should have asked to be returned to his previous post. It's a point about owners interfering.
onlyonejackwalker Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 This is my exact understanding. So once again out owners stuck their nose in an effectively forced Bowyer to manage with one hand behind is back. All the managers fault though. No one forced Bowyer to remain and many would not have accepted those conditions or the continued salary, if unable to run the team exactly how they wanted. As mentioned he could always have requested demoting back to the juniors, or resigned on principal. Principals however tend to cloud with thousands coming in per week. Can't gave it both ways. Pocket the cash, suck it up.
arbitro Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 I must admit to having been underwhelmed by Lambert up to this point but yesterday - with the performance at Oxford and his post match interview on Rovers TV - the guy really impressed me for the first time. He is absolutely correct that the club needs rebuilding and, with FFP, selling Rhodes was the only way to do it. Whilst it was easy for the owners to block their own internal appointment - in Bowyer - it would have been highly embarrassing for them to try to block the man that they have brought in to take the club forward. Hopefully, the summer will see some progress in terms of improving the quality of the squad. Certainly, the performances of Jackson, Ward and Watt yesterday suggested that Lambert is definitely on the right lines. Good post with points that many will agree with. However I think that all Lamberts interviews have had some substance and rang a chord with me. His honesty has been refreshing.
Speedie Dived Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 No one forced Bowyer to remain and many would not have accepted those conditions or the continued salary, if unable to run the team exactly how they wanted. As mentioned he could always have requested demoting back to the juniors, or resigned on principal. Principals however tend to cloud with thousands coming in per week. Can't gave it both ways. Pocket the cash, suck it up. That's exactly what he did, and tried to continue for the betterment of the club. And people are happy to slag off the bloke who effectively saved us and don't say boo to a goose about owners interfering in something they dont know.
Stuart Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 I must admit to having been underwhelmed by Lambert up to this point but yesterday - with the performance at Oxford and his post match interview on Rovers TV - the guy really impressed me for the first time. He is absolutely correct that the club needs rebuilding and, with FFP, selling Rhodes was the only way to do it. Whilst it was easy for the owners to block their own internal appointment - in Bowyer - it would have been highly embarrassing for them to try to block the man that they have brought in to take the club forward. Hopefully, the summer will see some progress in terms of improving the quality of the squad. Certainly, the performances of Jackson, Ward and Watt yesterday suggested that Lambert is definitely on the right lines. Here we go again with the posts about Bowyer being hard done to. He was backed with the players he wanted to bring in and/or keep. He had an opportunity that he would not have had elsewhere, and if Bowyer had sold Rhodes I would have been very worried about the type of player he would have replaced him with, and the game plan (not that we ever seemed to have one apart from keep it tight and try not to concede). Rhodes goals masked how badly Bowyer recruited elsewhere on the pitch. Something that Lambert is now having to address by selling the Crown Jewels.
JBiz Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Err come on Stuart! Let's leave that in the past along with the opinion on whether or not his hands where tied because I, and others see it differently. It's impossible to ignore that shelf and GB did try to sell JR but the owners blocked it. In any book, even with different characters - that's not how you run a football club. The pertinent part is PL is payed and plied with pluck to pounce on promotion...
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