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'The problem we've got is that we can't buy, that is a big thing for us. We can only work in the loan market and it is important that everybody realises that'

That can't be any clearer.

The long term effect of employing a manager who "deserved a go", rather than trying for the best manager available while in receipt of the parachute payments. We had the opportunity and blew it.
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Who cares about Varney? Hes not a Rovers player anymore

So lets forward to transfers under Lambert now and not looking back

Chaddy thought you was in the know with your constant harping on about scouts my apologies

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'The problem we've got is that we can't buy, that is a big thing for us. We can only work in the loan market and it is important that everybody realises that'

"That can't be any clearer.

where we might get the benefit is the summer window."

seems clear enough, loans for now and signings in the summer.

I personally think that if Rhodes is sold then it changes everything.

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I don't think people should get too concerned about what they read on Twitter in all honesty.

Unless it's someone reputable it's best to give it a wide berth. January is just full of attention seekers on there looking for followers with their guesswork.

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And neither is your perpetual slagging off of everything Lambert related.

What? I was just talking about transfers and the club not buying anyone.

You've really got a bee in your bonnet because i haven't got all giddy and joined in the Lambo love-in. I don't rate him based on what i've seen and heard so far. Get over it, it's a MB.

Seeing how YOU brought it up though:-

Interesting he won't have any money to spend. He'll have to do well with what he's got, with the addition of a couple of loans here and there until the summer when he may get a bit of money and also get some decent freebies in (If he sells Rhodes this may change) So all this 'he's got his hands tied' and he'll come good when he gets loads of new players in is frankly bunkum. He, like most other managers at this level, will have known the job when he got it. We don't have money, HE HAS TO WORK WITH WHAT HE'S GOT. So let's see how he does. So far it's dross. I think it's ok to point that out.

I'm sure he'll mention going training with Pep again soon. He did this at Villa too when they were dross. Could it possible be that he's a bit of a bluffer who's big on his own PR? 'Fast attacking football' LOL

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The long term effect of employing a manager who "deserved a go", rather than trying for the best manager available while in receipt of the parachute payments. We had the opportunity and blew it.

Garbage. The money was spent in the 1st season and summer we came down. A lot of that on the striker you keep slagging off. The parachute money didn't even cover the losses we incurred thereafter. We then employed two more managers before Bowyer. That would have been costly too. Thankfully Bowyer made us a profit on his transfer dealings.

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where we might get the benefit is the summer window."

seems clear enough, loans for now and signings in the summer.

I personally think that if Rhodes is sold then it changes everything.

That's the plan i'd imagine. Timing will be everything. The club will be wary of alienating even more of the fans.

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What? I was just talking about transfers and the club not buying anyone.

You've really got a bee in your bonnet because i haven't got all giddy and joined in the Lambo love-in. I don't rate him based on what i've seen and heard so far. Get over it, it's a MB.

Seeing how YOU brought it up though:-

Interesting he won't have any money to spend. He'll have to do well with what he's got, with the addition of a couple of loans here and there until the summer when he may get a bit of money and also get some decent freebies in (If he sells Rhodes this may change) So all this 'he's got his hands tied' and he'll come good when he gets loads of new players in is frankly bunkum. He, like most other managers at this level, will have known the job when he got it. We don't have money, HE HAS TO WORK WITH WHAT HE'S GOT. So let's see how he does. So far it's dross. I think it's ok to point that out.

I'm sure he'll mention going training with Pep again soon. He did this at Villa too when they were dross. Could it possible be that he's a bit of a bluffer who's big on his own PR? 'Fast attacking football' LOL

I disagree about him being a bluffer Blue boy. He has shown that he can get out of this division when he got Norwich promoted and then shown he can survive in the pl too. He did this with both Norwich and Villa. He is a proven manager. Whether he succeeds or not here is up for debate but a bluffer? Clearly not the case.

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Bowyer also built the team you see out on the pitch at the moment are they a good Side.

They're worse to watch than under Bowyer, and we are creating far fewer chances. We look awful. A couple of good results early on though.

Lambert was brought in to make us better. He knew what he had to work with before he took the job. So considering we haven't got any money to spend and can't make wholesale changes (the one thing people have been clinging to) how long before we should see some improvement? A pre-season may get us fitter but is it going to change Lambert's approach?

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What? I was just talking about transfers and the club not buying anyone.

You've really got a bee in your bonnet because i haven't got all giddy and joined in the Lambo love-in. I don't rate him based on what i've seen and heard so far. Get over it, it's a MB.

Seeing how YOU brought it up though:-

Interesting he won't have any money to spend. He'll have to do well with what he's got, with the addition of a couple of loans here and there until the summer when he may get a bit of money and also get some decent freebies in (If he sells Rhodes this may change) So all this 'he's got his hands tied' and he'll come good when he gets loads of new players in is frankly bunkum. He, like most other managers at this level, will have known the job when he got it. We don't have money, HE HAS TO WORK WITH WHAT HE'S GOT. So let's see how he does. So far it's dross. I think it's ok to point that out.

I'm sure he'll mention going training with Pep again soon. He did this at Villa too when they were dross. Could it possible be that he's a bit of a bluffer who's big on his own PR? 'Fast attacking football' LOL

O shut up you tedious clampit

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Garbage. The money was spent in the 1st season and summer we came down. A lot of that on the striker you keep slagging off. The parachute money didn't even cover the losses we incurred thereafter. We then employed two more managers before Bowyer. That would have been costly too. Thankfully Bowyer made us a profit on his transfer dealings.

His reign was a disaster in a number of ways. Mediocre, boringly dull football, fans walking away, criticising fans who expected better, talking up the dross we were watching, taking us towards relegation, leaving us with such an unbalanced, technically poor squad were just a few of the experiences. All while being backed To the tune of 35 ish? players of his choice.

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I disagree about him being a bluffer Blue boy. He has shown that he can get out of this division when he got Norwich promoted and then shown he can survive in the pl too. He did this with both Norwich and Villa. He is a proven manager. Whether he succeeds or not here is up for debate but a bluffer? Clearly not the case.

a bluffer is someone who promises something (fast attacking football, not accepting mediocrity) and delivers something completely different. He did this at Villa too. He actually achieved it at Norwich but he can't live on that forever. We'll see how we get on. Are you enthused so far?

On the 'proven' manager bit have a look who occupy the top two places in this division. They'd be dismissed as 'coaches' on here. There are lots of 'proven' managers who can't get a job, and for good reason.

I really hope we show some attacking intent and get a win today. It's a big test for Lambert.

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Yes it was an opinion. But it was based on many years of info. I can assure you that I am not confused.

FFP allows £39m of losses over 3yrs starting in the summer. My feeling, based on several convos over the years is that Venkys will not even flinch at stumping up £24m in losses over that period.

Direct quote from previous member of coaching staff. 'Gutted, we could have killed that league on the budget they've given Lambert'

I guess either way, time will tell...

That just shows the delusion of the previous coaching staff then :lol:

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He's got a point Chaddy. Why do you see us getting Chamakh? What's the reasoning behind it. If you've said you think we'll get him surely you've looked into it more than just one tweet from a random source on Twitter.

not at all Ricky.

The conversation was between me and a Palace fan whilst we were discussing it.

I think Palace will sign another striker during the transfer window and that's why I see Chamakh being available. in the last game Pardew played Campbell up front and NOT Chamakh. Plus they have Wickham and Gayle. But only play 1 up front so that's why I can see both Chamakh and Gayle being available in January

BUT Chamakh fit the type of striker Lambert is looking for. Striker who can link the play and hold the ball up.

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They're worse to watch than under Bowyer, and we are creating far fewer chances. We look awful. A couple of good results early on though.

Lambert was brought in to make us better. He knew what he had to work with before he took the job. So considering we haven't got any money to spend and can't make wholesale changes (the one thing people have been clinging to) how long before we should see some improvement? A pre-season may get us fitter but is it going to change Lambert's approach?

I forgot all about the exciting free flowing football we were treated to at the start of the season. 7 games with bowyers poorly assembled team is not long enough to judge.

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a bluffer is someone who promises something (fast attacking football, not accepting mediocrity) and delivers something completely different.

He didn't give a time frame chief. Give him a little time. I doubt any manager could get a team comprised of Akpan, Guthrie, Marshall, Brown, Koita and so on playing fast, attacking football. The exact quote was:

“I’m not going to stand here and say everything is going to click into place right away but, in my own mind, I know the way we want to play.

“In the league there have been a lot of draws, but not too many defeats, and we’ve got to try and turn the draws into wins.

“But Gary deserves a lot of credit for stabilising it and we’ve got to go and raise the bar again, and get them in a situation when they’re going to be close.

“There is still a wee bit of work to be done but let’s see what happens in the next few months.”

Give him some time, eh? He even threw in a compliment to Bowyer there.

Let's see where we are as a team at the end of the month. A few decent signings and we might start to see the style of football PL said he wanted to implement. If we don't then let's hope at the very least we're winning matches. I'd be happy with either.

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They're worse to watch than under Bowyer, and we are creating far fewer chances. We look awful. A couple of good results early on though.

Lambert was brought in to make us better. He knew what he had to work with before he took the job. So considering we haven't got any money to spend and can't make wholesale changes (the one thing people have been clinging to) how long before we should see some improvement? A pre-season may get us fitter but is it going to change Lambert's approach?

Your memory of Bowyer seems to be that miniscule shaft of light from the second half at Fulham and lasted for a few games where we finally closed down and moved forwards with just an ounce of desire - right up until he got sacked. Let me assure you, the majority was either bland, tame and extremely toothless. We attacked when behind and stumbled through games, perpetually passing sideways. This left us with win percentage of about 17% and flirting with the bottom three.

You are trying to convince season ticket holders and people who have followed this club through thick and thin that what they witnessed, never actually happened. To say you are on to a loser and a minority with your skewed view of events is an understatement.

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His reign was a disaster in a number of ways. Mediocre, boringly dull football, fans walking away, criticising fans who expected better, talking up the dross we were watching, taking us towards relegation, leaving us with such an unbalanced, technically poor squad were just a few of the experiences. All while being backed To the tune of 35 ish? players of his choice.

The number of players is irrelevant. It's all about quality. To be fair Bowyer did the job with one hand tied behind his back for the majority of his reign.

I hope they do back Lambert but the previous manager certainly wasn't, the football was a side show to a cost cutting exercise.

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THIS IS A TRANSFER THREAD, SOD OFF TO THE LAMBERT THREAD IF YOU WANT TO BITCH THE DAY AWAY :tu:

Chaddy - Can I just say that I enjoy your posts on possible targets and stuff thats being mentioned in the papers. I'm not on twitter and don't read the red tops so your information is most welcome, thanks :tu:

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At the Q&A whilst GB was still here, both Shaw and GB confirmed there was money (£1-£2m) if the right player was found. The criteria was to improve the first team, and young enough to have decent re-sale value.

Now that money may have gone in replacing GB and team with PL and team, but I'd be surprised if PL came in with no transfer funds available to use, however limited.

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