Jump to content

BRFCS

BY THE FANS, FOR THE FANS
SINCE 1996
Proudly partnered with TheTerraceStore.com

[Archived] Transfer Window - January 2016


Recommended Posts

So do you want him sacking ?

No I've not said that Abs, quite the contrary. He can have time but it needs to improve and quickly. He needs to be seen to get the best out of players like a Dyche or a Rowett.

Otherwise it doesn't matter whom he brings in as it will all revert to how it is now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 5.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Two new strikers would be the quickest way to improving the team. if we can't get any possession at the top end of the park, we aren't going to win games. Again today, we had no threat up front. Yes, the midfields weak, and new bodies are welcome there, but without changing things up top we would still continually be pinned in our own half.

Team - Goalscorer totals (four highest)

Boro 9 - 6 - 5 - 5

Derby 9 - 8 - 4 - 4

Hull 11 - 4 - 4 - 3

Brighton 6 - 5 - 4 - 4

Burnley 13 - 4 - 4 - 4

Ipswich 7 - 7 - 6 - 4

Weds 10 - 7 - 4 - 3

Brum 5 - 5 - 4 - 4

Cardiff 6 - 5 - 4 - 3

Brentford 10 - 7 - 4 - 4

Wolves 10 - 5 - 4 - 3

Reading 13 - 5 - 4 - 3

Leeds 8 - 5 - 3 - 2

Forest 6 - 4 - 2 - 2

Preston 7 - 4 - 3 - 2

QPR 10 - 5 - 4 - 4

Rovers 9 - 2 - 2 - 2

Hudds 8 - 5 - 3 - 3

Fulham 15 - 10 - 4 - 4 (in a false position)

MK Dons 5 - 4 - 3 - 3

Rotherham 6 - 4 - 3 - 2

Bristol C 9 - 5 - 2 - 2

Charlton 3 - 3 - 3 - 3

Bolton 4 - 4 - 3 - 2

Seems patently obvious that we have nobody else to chip in with goals this means that if teams double up on Rhodes - or simply mark him out of the game then we are there for the taking. It's all well and good blaming Jordan but we are missing attributes from the midfield and second striker. Bring in further threats and you give the defenders something else to worry about, as seen with Gestede. It's not use playing inferior players alongside him and simply saying Rhodes isn't good enough. He needs help.

Even more galling...

Nick Blackman (Reading) 13

Alan Judge (Brentford) 10

Paul Gallagher (Preston) 4

Michael Keane (Burnley) 3

Jonathan Douglas (Ipswich) 3

Anthony Pilkington (Cardiff) 3

Junior Hoilett (QPR) 3

Joe Garner (Preston) 3

Tom Cairney (Fulham) 3

Matt Derbyshire (Rotherham) 3

Hell, even Neil Danns at bottom of the table Bolton has as many as our second highest goalscorer(s).

We need others to chip in. Duffy, for instance, is getting the most chances at the moment - ones that defenders at other clubs are taking.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Moderation Lead

Team - Goalscorer totals (four highest)

Boro 9 - 6 - 5 - 5

Derby 9 - 8 - 4 - 4

Hull 11 - 4 - 4 - 3

Brighton 6 - 5 - 4 - 4

Burnley 13 - 4 - 4 - 4

Ipswich 7 - 7 - 6 - 4

Weds 10 - 7 - 4 - 3

Brum 5 - 5 - 4 - 4

Cardiff 6 - 5 - 4 - 3

Brentford 10 - 7 - 4 - 4

Wolves 10 - 5 - 4 - 3

Reading 13 - 5 - 4 - 3

Leeds 8 - 5 - 3 - 2

Forest 6 - 4 - 2 - 2

Preston 7 - 4 - 3 - 2

QPR 10 - 5 - 4 - 4

Rovers 9 - 2 - 2 - 2

Hudds 8 - 5 - 3 - 3

Fulham 15 - 10 - 4 - 4 (in a false position)

MK Dons 5 - 4 - 3 - 3

Rotherham 6 - 4 - 3 - 2

Bristol C 9 - 5 - 2 - 2

Charlton 3 - 3 - 3 - 3

Bolton 4 - 4 - 3 - 2

Seems patently obvious that we have nobody else to chip in with goals this means that if teams double up on Rhodes - or simply mark him out of the game then we are there for the taking. It's all well and good blaming Jordan but we are missing attributes from the midfield and second striker. Bring in further threats and you give the defenders something else to worry about, as seen with Gestede. It's not use playing inferior players alongside him and simply saying Rhodes isn't good enough. He needs help.

Even more galling...

Nick Blackman (Reading) 13

Alan Judge (Brentford) 10

Paul Gallagher (Preston) 4

Michael Keane (Burnley) 3

Jonathan Douglas (Ipswich) 3

Anthony Pilkington (Cardiff) 3

Junior Hoilett (QPR) 3

Joe Garner (Preston) 3

Tom Cairney (Fulham) 3

Matt Derbyshire (Rotherham) 3

Hell, even Neil Danns at bottom of the table Bolton has as many as our second highest goalscorer(s).

We need others to chip in. Duffy, for instance, is getting the most chances at the moment - ones that defenders at other clubs are taking.

Hallelujah! Someone else has a working pair of eyes!!

Well, he did have a different opinion to some I suppose!!!!

That wasn't why he was banned! Many people have similar opinions to Blueboy, but none of them are banned, which tells its own story.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hallelujah! Someone else has a working pair of eyes!!

That wasn't why he was banned! Many people have similar opinions to Blueboy, but none of them are banned, which tells its own story.

It's the chicken and the egg again (Rhodes or midfielders).

A good point that a mate made recently, apart from long distance efforts our midfielders don't get presented with chances to take.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Moderation Lead

It's the chicken and the egg again (Rhodes or midfielders).

A good point that a mate made recently, apart from long distance efforts our midfielders don't get presented with chances to take.

Don't get me wrong, I think Rhodes could definitely be doing more, but I don't think the midfield gets forward enough in general.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Don't get me wrong, I think Rhodes could definitely be doing more, but I don't think the midfield gets forward enough in general.

Yeah I agree but I also agree that a large percentage of the time they don't have chance to get there, as the ball has been lost and is coming back at them.

Anyway, hopefully Nicko's tales in the Sunday s@n will bring some positive news.

No doubt we will be signing dross on loan ;-)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Two new strikers would be the quickest way to improving the team. if we can't get any possession at the top end of the park, we aren't going to win games. Again today, we had no threat up front. Yes, the midfields weak, and new bodies are welcome there, but without changing things up top we would still continually be pinned in our own half.

It won't surprise you at all to learn I cqompletely disagree with the above and that Imo the quickest way to transform the team would be to bring in a couple of really good midfielders. Hoofing the ball up and expecting the strikers to hold the ball up shouldn't be the primary aim, the focus should be on channeling play from defence through the midfield and wide areas to the forwards.

Going long to the forwards should only be a last ditch option to relieve a bit of pressure when you're under the cosh. Which hopefully shouldn't happen too often if your midfield is any good.

Excellent post from Stuart BTW.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Moderation Lead

Yeah I agree but I also agree that a large percentage of the time they don't have chance to get there, as the ball has been lost and is coming back at them.

Anyway, hopefully Nicko's tales in the Sunday s@n will bring some positive news.

No doubt we will be signing dross on loan ;-)

It's always asking a lot to deal with aimless long punts in any case! Though Rhodes' lack of pace doesn't help, but that's not likely to change so we need to 'wee with the willy we've got' as it were.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Team - Goalscorer totals (four highest)

Boro 9 - 6 - 5 - 5

Derby 9 - 8 - 4 - 4

Hull 11 - 4 - 4 - 3

Brighton 6 - 5 - 4 - 4

Burnley 13 - 4 - 4 - 4

Ipswich 7 - 7 - 6 - 4

Weds 10 - 7 - 4 - 3

Brum 5 - 5 - 4 - 4

Cardiff 6 - 5 - 4 - 3

Brentford 10 - 7 - 4 - 4

Wolves 10 - 5 - 4 - 3

Reading 13 - 5 - 4 - 3

Leeds 8 - 5 - 3 - 2

Forest 6 - 4 - 2 - 2

Preston 7 - 4 - 3 - 2

QPR 10 - 5 - 4 - 4

Rovers 9 - 2 - 2 - 2

Hudds 8 - 5 - 3 - 3

Fulham 15 - 10 - 4 - 4 (in a false position)

MK Dons 5 - 4 - 3 - 3

Rotherham 6 - 4 - 3 - 2

Bristol C 9 - 5 - 2 - 2

Charlton 3 - 3 - 3 - 3

Bolton 4 - 4 - 3 - 2

Seems patently obvious that we have nobody else to chip in with goals this means that if teams double up on Rhodes - or simply mark him out of the game then we are there for the taking. It's all well and good blaming Jordan but we are missing attributes from the midfield and second striker. Bring in further threats and you give the defenders something else to worry about, as seen with Gestede. It's not use playing inferior players alongside him and simply saying Rhodes isn't good enough. He needs help.

Even more galling...

Nick Blackman (Reading) 13

Alan Judge (Brentford) 10

Paul Gallagher (Preston) 4

Michael Keane (Burnley) 3

Jonathan Douglas (Ipswich) 3

Anthony Pilkington (Cardiff) 3

Junior Hoilett (QPR) 3

Joe Garner (Preston) 3

Tom Cairney (Fulham) 3

Matt Derbyshire (Rotherham) 3

Hell, even Neil Danns at bottom of the table Bolton has as many as our second highest goalscorer(s).

We need others to chip in. Duffy, for instance, is getting the most chances at the moment - ones that defenders at other clubs are taking.

Blimey Stuart. Who blamed Jordan? I'm talking about ALL of our front runners/strikers. At present the back four are doing their job, the midfield are getting some possession, but nobody up front can get involved. They're all getting marked out of the game. For me it's our biggest problem by far.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's always asking a lot to deal with aimless long punts in any case! Though Rhodes' lack of pace doesn't help, but that's not likely to change so we need to 'wee with the willy we've got' as it were.

Yeah he is going to struggle with balls up to his head but what really kills us for me is balls into the channel, he just can't win them.

Not bashing the lad cause I love him as much as the next fan but couldn't tell you the last time he ran the channel, got the ball and whipped a cross in.

Grown up with that being bread and butter for strikers.

Lambert either has to set a team up for him or flog him. Don't get caught in between.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Moderation Lead

Yeah he is going to struggle with balls up to his head but what really kills us for me is balls into the channel, he just can't win them.

Not bashing the lad cause I love him as much as the next fan but couldn't tell you the last time he ran the channel, got the ball and whipped a cross in.

Grown up with that being bread and butter for strikers.

Lambert either has to set a team up for him or flog him. Don't get caught in between.

Can't argue with any of that to be fair.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It won't surprise you at all to learn I cqompletely disagree with the above and that Imo the quickest way to transform the team would be to bring in a couple of really good midfielders. Hoofing the ball up and expecting the strikers to hold the ball up shouldn't be the primary aim, the focus should be on channeling play from defence through the midfield and wide areas to the forwards.

Going long to the forwards should only be a last ditch option to relieve a bit of pressure when you're under the cosh. Which hopefully shouldn't happen too often if your midfield is any good.

Excellent post from Stuart BTW.

Not everything is hoofed Rev. The possession stats show that (not that I believe in stats that much). That's just making excuses for the under performers up front - all of 'em. We have no bite up top, no punch. It's so obvious it's untrue.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Two new strikers would be the quickest way to improving the team. if we can't get any possession at the top end of the park, we aren't going to win games. Again today, we had no threat up front. Yes, the midfields weak, and new bodies are welcome there, but without changing things up top we would still continually be pinned in our own half.

Absolute bunkum den with respect.

We had 2 strikers last season that scored 40 goals between them and still we finished mid table, so that theory has been well and truly put to bed.

We need midfield players that can put a foot on the ball and pick a pass, with pace if possible, not 2 new strikers.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's the chicken and the egg again (Rhodes or midfielders).

A good point that a mate made recently, apart from long distance efforts our midfielders don't get presented with chances to take.

It's not chicken and egg though. It's cold hard facts.

Look at the top scorers at all other clubs. Rhodes is in amongst his peers. Slightly poor by his own standards but respectable.

Then we have nobody to compete with anybody else's second highest scorer. At ANY of the 23 other clubs. Even Bolton!!

I can only infer from your comment that you believe that our midfielders don't get chances because of Rhodes. I say it's because they aren't good enough. I can't even remember the last time that they created a chance for Rhodes - never mind he for them!

We need pace in midfield and we need a battering ram with a bit of quality on the ball up front. To complement Rhodes, not instead of him. Let's say we drop Rhodes tomorrow and play Brown or Lawrence and Delfouneso for our next league game. Do you really see them creating chances for our midfield? For each other? For themselves? Do you see them taking those chances?

We are devoid of finishing quality. If Rhodes is taken out of the game we don't look to create chances by exploiting the space which that creates. If anything, with he right midfield, having Rhodes occupying defenders should meant that there is more chance of our midfielders creating chances. But there isn't anyone.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Absolute bunkum den with respect.

We had 2 strikers last season that scored 40 goals between them, one ran the channels and held the ball up, and still we finished mid table, so that theory has been well and truly put to bed.

Who ran the channels last season?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.