Mani Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Hardly ever we have played to Rhodes strength...the one time we did was bolton at home two seasons ago with dunn pulling the strings and Rhodes had an awesome game If you're suggesting that we have not played to the strengths of a guy who has 82 goals in 154 apps for us then we should be holding out for £100m for the lad!! Even Messi would struggle to get those figures in a team which had only played to his strengths once in four seasons!! Come on mate, this is a guy who can't get a game for Scotland and isn't wanted in the Premier League. We've defo played to his strengths!!
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Stuart Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I did the research over a year ago and found that in fact it's team that concede fewer goals that have gone up. that hasn't factored in last year and Bournemouth but generally speaking it has been the case. edit- last year 3/4 best sides defensively went up, including Bournemouth who had the 2nd best record. they were however also the 3 best scoring sides too! I've done the research too. The teams who score the most goals have gone up.However, it's a completely moot point because ultimately it's always the teams who win the most games that go up. To win games, you have to score more goals than you concede. Conversely, if you draw every game 0-0, the you will almost certainly be relegated.
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I've done the research too. The teams who score the most goals have gone up. However, it's a completely moot point because ultimately it's always the teams who win the most games that go up. To win games, you have to score more goals than you concede. Conversely, if you draw every game 0-0, the you will almost certainly be relegated. So logically, by conceding less, you have a better chance of winning games. You only have to score 1 or 2 to get the points. How many times during Bowyers reign did we have to score at least twice just to draw?
chaddyrovers Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Errr the whole team has struggled besides the defence performance wise so why consider selling Rhodes before the rest? Eh? Did I say that? No!!! I said I wouldnt be surprised if Lambert sold him cos he doesnt suit Lambert's tactics and high pressing game.
ABBEY Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 How many goals does Rhodes haters require before the hate stops ? 40 ? 50 ? 100000000 and he'd still be @#/? listening to this board
chaddyrovers Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Abbey, nobody here is Rhodes hater at all. Nobody has said that they hate Rhodes have they? We have just pointed out that he is struggled atm under Lambert's tactics and high pressing game. His game does lack pace and link up play isn't the best I've seen BUT over the last 2 seasons has improved alot from what I've seen of him. His finishing is top quality.
ABBEY Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Abbey, nobody here is Rhodes hater at all. Nobody has said that they hate Rhodes have they? . BS
Stuart Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 So logically, by conceding less, you have a better chance of winning games. You only have to score 1 or 2 to get the points. How many times during Bowyers reign did we have to score at least twice just to draw? But you still have to score! I can't believe we are having this debate!
ABBEY Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 But you still have to score! I can't believe we are having this debate! Just like the Rhodes haters who deny hating him despite 24/7 slagging everything he does
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 How many goals does Rhodes haters require before the hate stops ? 40 ? 50 ? 100000000 and he'd still be @#/? listening to this board It's a bit like the Bowyer debate ' ie We can't get rid of him because we won't get anybody better in. We would all like to see a team with Rhodes firing them in every week. When he isn't though, he becomes a passenger that our team isn't good enough to carry. It is a classic catch 22. We can't get the quality we need to help Rhodes without significant funds. We are only likely to get significant funds by selling JR.
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 But you still have to score! I can't believe we are having this debate! It is the same as glass half full or empty debate.A defensive minded team will still score goals. It is why the likes of Athletico Madrid constantly bloody the noses of their more prestigious neighbours. Anyway. - enjoy yhe game Stu. Here's to a 1-0 away win with a set piece goal :-)
jim mk2 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 His finishing is top quality. His finishing isn't top quality - he misses as many as he scores. I've done the research too. The teams who score the most goals have gone up. Howard Kendall's promotion team won many of their games 1-0. I didn't need to do the research because I watched them
Waggy76 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Very true Jim and went on a run of 13 wins from 14 matches , starting at Grimsby in the New Year if my memory serves me right !
Ribble Rover Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Just like the Rhodes haters who deny hating him despite 24/7 slagging everything he does haters will hate
Stuart Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 His finishing isn't top quality - he misses as many as he scores. :lol:Howard Kendall's promotion team won many of their games 1-0. I didn't need to do the research because I watched themThat would be one of the best managers in British football operating in the third tier. Yes, I can see why that might be possible. But we STILL had to score to win. Odd that.Oh and kudos on being old.
Backroom Tom Posted December 28, 2015 Backroom Posted December 28, 2015 How many goals does Rhodes haters require before the hate stops ? 40 ? 50 ? 100000000 and he'd still be @#/? listening to this board He'll come good again but there can be no denying that up to this point he's been terrible for weeks.
jim mk2 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 :lol: That would be one of the best managers in British football operating in the third tier. Yes, I can see why that might be possible. But we STILL had to score to win. Odd that. Oh and kudos on being old. You might think it's funny when Rhodes fluffs a chance but I don't. I've also done my research - the evidence in front of my eyes. What research did you use ? It's stating the bleeding obvious that you have to score to win but the point is you don't have to score a mountain of goals to do so - which you do, erroneously. The benefit of experience, dear boy, is that you've seen it all before and can see through the folly of youth.
Pedro Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Just like the Rhodes haters who deny hating him despite 24/7 slagging everything he does Who hates Rhodes on here? I don't know of a single person on here who hates him. Being honest and critical isn't hate. Pointing out the GLARING downsides to his game isn't hate, any more than it was wanting Hanley to stop being rash, or wanting Olsson beating his first man with his crossing. To justify his place the lad needs to contribute more, simple as. Just a thought, from the last 25 years, who would you rather have in our current team and why? Rhodes or: Shearer? Sutton? Speedie? Jansen? McCarthy? Santa Cruz? Bellamy? Cole? ...Arguably Newell too. I love and rate them all but all are much better a player than Rhodes is or (in my opinion) will be. Main reason, they are good finishers but gave defenders hell and brought others around them into the game.
AggyBlue Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 How many loan players are we allowed to sign in the Jan window? We need about eight.
yoda Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 How many loan players are we allowed to sign in the Jan window? We need about eighteen
G Somerset Rover Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I see Big Sam is desperate for a centre half. Funny feeling he may come in for Hanley. I know he rates him very highly. He's about the only player I wouldn't like us to lose at the moment. As for what we need: a right back, two central midfielders, two wingers and one/two strikers. PL has got one hell of a job on here.
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 So it's all about Loans,loans and more loans eh? We finally get a MANAGER in place but once more,as usual,he finds his Hands tied by our feckless owners. Round and round we go.
bluefred Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 It needs more than loans don't it Worked for Watford didn't it
Speedie Dived Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Worked for Watford didn't it This is another myth that needs dispelling. It worked because their owners also own Udinese and basically moved players between the two clubs. Our geniuses own us and Pune FC. Don't fancy many from over there.
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