A cup of beans Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 how many roads must a man walk down before you can call him a man... The answer my friend is.. "Chris Brown in the wind?/ " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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booth Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 How many goals has he scored in open play under PL ? The question should be, how many goals has he scored? He's still getting chances but he's fluffing them. Anyone who has watched football for any length of time knows that prolific strikers have barren patches and as long as they are getting chances they will score again. The fact is, he's currently our only hope of scoring goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Hooker Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 and they usually get dropped sooner or later unless they have something else to offer other than, rhodes could at least learn to become an irritating @#/? and drive the oppo defenders around the bend until they slip up(dickov style) honestly though i believe rhodes should be dropped(if only to give him a jolt) id honestly like to see koita and brown upfront for a game, they would be a headache for any defenders in this league(sure they might not have the finishing ability of rhodes, but i just want to see us battling more) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 The question should be, how many goals has he scored? He's still getting chances but he's fluffing them. Anyone who has watched football for any length of time knows that prolific strikers have barren patches and as long as they are getting chances they will score again. The fact is, he's currently our only hope of scoring goals. And his contribution in those 9 matches has been ? Sorry - playing devils advocate - but the truth is a non-scoring Rhodes doesn't normally contribute a great deal. I hope he proves me wrong on Saturday - but it has been worrying how few chances he has under PL's tactics - when in truth I thought the high pressing game would suit him - but didn't realise it would be inter mingled with so much long ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted January 15, 2016 Moderation Lead Share Posted January 15, 2016 and they usually get dropped sooner or later unless they have something else to offer other than, rhodes could at least learn to become an irritating @#/? and drive the oppo defenders around the bend until they slip up(dickov style) honestly though i believe rhodes should be dropped(if only to give him a jolt) id honestly like to see koita and brown upfront for a game, they would be a headache for any defenders in this league(sure they might not have the finishing ability of rhodes, but i just want to see us battling more) I know what you're saying, but there's no point in us battling if our midfielders don't get forward to support our battling strikers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover_Shaun Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 prepare.for.BRFCC.meltdown 'Proper manager who knows how to attract proper players!' I wasn't ever a fan of his but had he signed this player, an unwanted league 1 flop, the Samaritans would have switchboard meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlete Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 so far whats worrying slightly is PL signing players whom did a job for him 5 years ago ...yes 5 years ago and since neither have been pulling up trees so to speak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue blood Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 But again, I got attacked(not by you), saying we have to make signings NOW because the squad needs improving. We all know it needs to be strengthened, but is this the right time? If Lambert still genuinely feels we have a shot at the playoffs, then fine I can understand bringing in a few. But people are still expecting quality signings at this stage, when we might as well hold on until the summer and start fresh. I would be delighted if we made the playoffs, but unless these few signings makes a huge contribution I fail to see how. Lambert should be allowed to rebuild this squad from top to bottom, even if that means letting alot of this crap leave. Who would want them though? To be honest, the price for Rhodes was a fair one. We paid what 8mill for him, and he was scoring goals. Ross McCormack went for a big fee, so that amount I would say was a fair one. We played it right at the time. Good question. Is it the right time? Get what you're saying about the summer and kind of agree - more options, not a sellers market etc. BUT we need a lot of players in. A lot of changes - I'd say over half the squad. To me this means we need to get a few of them in now because 1. I assume PL will want to spend time with his squad which would be impossible to do and replace all the dross that's needs clearing out there's not enough time in the day. 2 too much change at once can be detrimental - like QPR under Hughes. Surely getting a few more in and up to speed will mean less adjustment in the summer and us more likely to start next season at a stronger pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted January 15, 2016 Share Posted January 15, 2016 so far whats worrying slightly is PL signing players whom did a job for him 5 years ago ...yes 5 years ago and since neither have been pulling up trees so to speak Im more worried that we gave Corry Evans another 3.5 year deal, than Jackson 5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A cup of beans Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Am I being churlish and unreasonable in suggesting we shouldve told Lawrence to sod off back to Leicester, when he only signed for an extra month ? Pointless and a bit insulting all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverMinion Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Am I being churlish and unreasonable in suggesting we shouldve told Lawrence to sod off back to Leicester, when he only signed for an extra month ? Pointless and a bit insulting all round. It wasn't his decision. His agents recommendation. Personally wouldn't be fussed if he went back to Leicester right now. Overrated in my opinion. If we could get someone else in with top flight Championship/Premier League experience. I'd be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJW Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I think we all knew the summer window would be the one were the Lambert would do most of his work , these 2 signings have a whiff of old boys club about them , but maybe he's just struggling to get his style of play across to the players and these 2 will have an helping hand in that , we're still only half way through the window and I'm still hoping for (at least) 3 more signings , a right back a centre back and some quality in centre mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMonday Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Lambert's first two signings suggest to me that he has major issues with a big part of the squad. I think there is something seriously amiss with a big part of the squad and they are missing, IMV, their great chums Bowyer and co. Lambert has to stop the rot and, sadly, I think the rebuilding process is going to take longer than we feared. If these two new players offer any improvement on what we've recently seen, and that shouldn't be difficult, then it will be a big stride forward. I have little doubt that we are going to see a massive cull of the existing playing staff over the next six months and it will not be before time. That's how I'm reading it Iceman. Lambo has failed to win the squad over. Wether it's an influential core that have effectively downed tools I don't know, but performances point that way. So Lambos rebuilding is having to start with players he knows to tip the dressing room back in his favour. If that's true then it's shocking, because this squad is no Chelsea, with their mutiny. Laughable!Start swinging that axe Mr Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMonday Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 how many roads must a man walk down before you can call him a man... The answer my friend is..Blowing in the wind...Which is how I'd describe Koita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinjayV4 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 That's how I'm reading it Iceman. Lambo has failed to win the squad over. Wether it's an influential core that have effectively downed tools I don't know, but performances point that way. So Lambos rebuilding is having to start with players he knows to tip the dressing room back in his favour. If that's true then it's shocking, because this squad is no Chelsea, with their mutiny. Laughable! Start swinging that axe Mr Lambert. Certainly some managers have been known to do that but not saying that's definitely the case with Lambert. Its not like he attempted to make these 2 signings at Aston Villa though is it? He must feel that with seemingly limited options (at least in January) why not go for something you know? Of course that does not always work out as when Ince signed Keith Andrews. That seemed more like a "friend in the dressing room" signing not that Andrews really deserved some of the fan abuse he got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueMonday Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Certainly some managers have been known to do that but not saying that's definitely the case with Lambert. Its not like he attempted to make these 2 signings at Aston Villa though is it? He must feel that with seemingly limited options (at least in January) why not go for something you know? Of course that does not always work out as when Ince signed Keith Andrews. That seemed more like a "friend in the dressing room" signing not that Andrews really deserved some of the fan abuse he got.Keith Andrews would look world class in this midfield, but I take your point. He's obviously working with financial restraints in this window, otherwise we'd be in for the Zac Cloughs etc. need to buckle up for a bumpy ride till the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the original david brent Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Nixon... "Trying to work out why Venkys spent good money lifting an embargo at Blackburn only to sign freebies and cheapies." I am surprised more hasn't been posted about this. It's quite clear Nixon has a foot in the Lambert camp. Rather than suggesting Nixon is stirring, it's pretty feasible to me that this may have happened. It's possible that Lambert may been promised funds in January only for Venkys to retract this for whatever reason. Would Lambert have really come if he was told you can sign a couple of loans this season? Mani had a contact in the previous camp. I remember him posting that they said they would have walked the league if they had been given the transfer chest that Lambert has, or words to the effect. I am not going to dig the post out; Mani can comment if he wishes. As a paying season ticket holder and regular away attendee, I just feel ripped off again that the club from top to bottom have seemingly thrown in the white flag for this season. From Venkys who have apparently written it off to the shocking performances witnessed recently by players. It must be the 4th consecutive season where it's season over in January. No wonder attendances are rock bottom and the atmosphere is non existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto man Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I am surprised more hasn't been posted about this. It's quite clear Nixon has a foot in the Lambert camp. Rather than suggesting Nixon is stirring, it's pretty feasible to me that this may have happened. It's possible that Lambert may been promised funds in January only for Venkys to retract this for whatever reason. Would Lambert have really come if he was told you can sign a couple of loans this season? Mani had a contact in the previous camp. I remember him posting that they said they would have walked the league if they had been given the transfer chest that Lambert has, or words to the effect. I am not going to dig the post out; Mani can comment if he wishes. As a paying season ticket holder and regular away attendee, I just feel ripped off again that the club from top to bottom have seemingly thrown in the white flag for this season. From Venkys who have apparently written it off to the shocking performances witnessed recently by players. It must be the 4th consecutive season where it's season over in January. No wonder attendances are rock bottom and the atmosphere is non existent. Only just out of embargo? Big spending(or any kind of real spending for that matter) = straight back in to embargo? Does this not make more sense than yet another Machiavellian conspiracy theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the original david brent Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Only just out of embargo? Big spending(or any kind of real spending for that matter) = straight back in to embargo? Does this not make more sense than yet another Machiavellian conspiracy theory? How do we know that spending money results in us going straight back into the embargo? Has anybody actually said that at the club? If they have than I have missed it and stand to be corrected. There seems to be a out of assumptions that this is the case but I am not an expert in FFP. It's not about Machiavellian conspiracy theories. I am just a normal fan getting rather annoyed and frustrated watching this cr@p every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imy9 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 How do we know that spending money results in us going straight back into the embargo? Has anybody actually said that at the club? If they have than I have missed it and stand to be corrected. There seems to be a out of assumptions that this is the case but I am not an expert in FFP. It's not about Machiavellian conspiracy theories. I am just a normal fan getting rather annoyed and frustrated watching this cr@p every week. lambert has this himself. loans for January and then summer is when we buy. It's also 39 million losses over a 3 year period from then so realistically we can spend heavily then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Only just out of embargo? Big spending(or any kind of real spending for that matter) = straight back in to embargo? Does this not make more sense than yet another Machiavellian conspiracy theory? The answer is that simple and obvious - not sure why people can't grasp it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 The answer is that simple and obvious - not sure why people can't grasp it.That is of course the obvious reason. But as DB said, and I said yesterday, he is good pals with Lambert, so not sure he'd risk their friendship by putting out stirring tweets just for the sake of it. Then again this is Nicko... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted January 16, 2016 Moderation Lead Share Posted January 16, 2016 Nixon gets paid for his stirring, half of what he writes never comes to fruition. Find it hard to believe people still hang on his every word tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedie Dived Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 All Jackson has to do is score 1 goal then he would of contributed more than Koita and Brown. Sadly it's not all about goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedie Dived Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Like I said Mrs G, I agree we need a few players in. But the players we have here already, are being paid to do a job. I hate football contracts, and I wish they had in them the option to terminate a contract, if said player is not performing without any payoff. I don't get your point. Every player in the league is getting paid, those at the top and those at the bottom. We are just paying ours less (Rhodes aside) than the majority in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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