[Archived] Qpr

[Swanson]

Pleased to hear that Lenihan played well. Think it is important to get some of our youngsters in or around the first team.

“Darragh is only a young kid but he’s certainly knocking on the door for a start, that’s for sure. I thought Darragh was excellent when he came on in midfield and excellent when he went to centre-half.

“I think he's got a decent chance of being a really good footballer.”

[Stuart]

If anybody is on twitter read duffys comments hes had some abuse of rovers fans but also support and he has said hes tryng his best and goals will come from his headers

Can't condone idiots on Twitter abusing players but Duffy does need to practise hitting certain parts of the goal. He wins 95% of headers in defence and attack and our main goalscoring opportinunites of late have all fallen to him. It's a lot to expect a centre half to keep the goals out and put them in as well, but if he can't get them into dangerous areas, or at least knock them down for others, then him being up is a risk not worth taking, and he may as well stay back and focus on defending. Joe ever, if we can get him practising his heading on goal then we have a real asset.

[Mike Graham]

No need to abuse Duffy although someone did show me a photoshop photo of him with a toblerone shaped head....he gets his head in he right place it is just the ball goes anywhere but the intended.

Another funny moment yet completely over the top were the guys behind me signing to the tune Jesus Christ Superstar:

" Chris Brown

Never score

Walks like a woman

And he wears a bra".

Naughty Rovers fans.

I watched 20 mins of pre-match warm up and both Hanley and Duffy were to one side practising defensive headers only; this has happened for a few games now.

Hanley has got better and better, virtually every headed from Duffy was wayward. At least the coaches realise it is a problem and they are working on it. He can only get better.

[Mike Graham]

Brown coming on changed something tonight. Ironic cheers somehow made the fans hear their own voices and it translated into the pitch and in turn got the fans going again. QPR visibly wilted - moreso after the goal. Another 10 minutes longer might have made things interested.

I'm not sure though if it was necessarily Brown or if it was a moment that everyone needed.

It seems like we are missing a spark. If we can find that again we might be back on track - with some confidence returning to the players. A Savage, or a Dickov, or a drummer, or a school kid taking a penalty at half time, an idiot fan who just won't stop trying to get chants going, the "Riverside Rumble", just something that gives people a lift.

We lost our Premier League place, and we lost some of our pride, but we also lost our voices. Whatever happened to the singing and chanting. We need what we had in the last 5 minutes tonight.

But how?

Singing and chanting Stuart....who from? Just had a text to say officially less than 8,000 were on last night, just over 1/4 full.

[chaddyrovers]

Is it? Why did he play 4-4-1-1 then and leave a big striker on the bench?

Also, we get the ball at the back and keep hoofing it up, so im not sure how you know he relies on crossing.

Really poor not to have scored in open play, why keep lumping it up when we have Conway, Bennett, Marshall, Lawrence and Rhodes playing? Suits no one.

And Tommy Spurr man of the match was a joke.

Koita has been playing recently. So there is your big man.

Secondly, we were looking to cross the ball more in the second half.

Marshall was very good at right back. Spurr was fairly good.

Really dont know how you can say that Spurr being motm was joke. Did much better than most.

My motm would have been Lenihan.

[Mike Graham]

We were trying the overlap a lot more Chaddy but the problem (mainly Marshall) is that we cut inside virtually every time. The few times it went to the touchlne and was crossed it caused problems for QPR.

MOTM? I would give it Hanley.

The 1/2 time warm up by Taylor and Henley btw was to have a chat. Their mouths moved more than their legs.....disgraceful.

[arbitro]

I haven't seen the goal, was it yet another Duffy mistake for the JAL scrapbook?

Hanley was culpable as he tried to win a ball he was never going to win and left Hoillet free. I thought Hoillet was onside, played on by Hanley who hasn't got out of the habit of thinking he has to win every ball. Steele however was the main culprit - shocking keeping you would see in a schoolboy match.

[ABBEY]

Rubbish equaliser really, the sort of set-piece goal that fans used to decry Sam Allardyce for.

How many of Rovers' goals under Lambert have come from set pieces?

HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN ..GET OVER IT.

HOPE YOU HAVE NOT BEEN DIVORCED AS MANY TIMES AS ME BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE A BASKET CASE IF IT TAKES YOU THIS LONG AND STILL NOT OVER IT. .

HES GONE JIM AND HE AINT COMING BACK ..MOVE ON .

[Athlete]

I dsliked Lambert from his villa days.. That team was utter garbage and was dull and boring.. Hope it's not going to be the same here.. He still needs to get his own players

Looking like he's repeating his villa fiasco here.. Really thought we'd kick on after PNE but possibly Lambert has tried to change too much behind the scenes too quickly and upset the senior players but if this slide isn't halted fast the trap door is looming.

That last night was atrocious

[47er]

On the basis that we had only won three games out of 16 when PL took over and were looking relegation fodder, I'm not surprised that Lambert tried to change things quickly.

Its looking increasingly like the players are unable and/or unwilling to adapt to change. Perhaps the players share Bowyer's vision for the club,basically just coast along in the lower half of the Championship and pick up their 10 grand or whatever till they retire.

They know they are not good enough for the Premier League so why try to get there? Easy Street.

The players have done a Chelsea on him but I'm pretty confident it won't be Lambert who leaves.

Whatever it takes, however long it takes, we have to get behind this guy and hope its a Norwich he does, not a Villa.

There is no alternative.

[G Somerset Rover]

Good post 47'er. I just hope he's given time to build the team that he wants. We're only ever one bad decision away from a full blown crisis.

Lenihan must start for me on Saturday. Fingers crossed Duffy is fit so he can play in his natural position alongside Akpan.

[JBiz]

Its looking increasingly like the players are unable and/or unwilling to adapt to change. Perhaps the players share Bowyer's vision for the club,basically just coast along in the lower half of the Championship and pick up their 10 grand or whatever till they retire.

Bowyers vision for the club...

I'm sick to the very back teeth already of this. PL has come in and made performances worse, the buck stops with him. Can we forget GB, because it's painful having to put up with the same people blaming GB for PLs performances, who disagreed when it was pointed out that we'd struggle losing players and replacing on frees, regardless of boss.

[JBiz]

Whatever happened to the singing and chanting. We need what we had in the last 5 minutes tonight.

But how?

It was pointed out to me on several occassions, that it's the responsibility of manager and players to stir the crowd into response.

[arbitro]

Bowyers vision for the club...

I'm sick to the very back teeth already of this. PL has come in and made performances worse, the buck stops with him. Can we forget GB, because it's painful having to put up with the same people blaming GB for PLs performances, who disagreed when it was pointed out that we'd struggle losing players and replacing on frees, regardless of boss.

I am as frustrated as anybody but you are correct about Bowyer. It's time to move on and look to the future. That is the only thing that Lambert and his staff (and us as supporters) can effect. We are painfully bad to watch at the moment but there are too many panic buttons being pressed (and I am guilty of this at times). The only way we are going to progress is by allowing Lambert to build his own squad. I am certain in my own mind that he knows what is and isn't needed and he pretty much knows that the current crop simply aren't good enough. Patience is the key to sorting out this mess I feel.

[Speedie Dived]

Again, where does this myth that we were better under Bowyer come from? There's nothing to actually support it.

The man hasn't even been in charge for 10 games and people are already preparing the pitchforks. We need to see this season out and rebuild the squad in the summer.

It's not a myth, Bowyer had this team performing better. You can see it with your own eyes.

Far from getting the pitchforks, but as starts go this has not been good.

[Speedie Dived]

If anybody is on twitter read duffys comments hes had some abuse of rovers fans but also support and he has said hes tryng his best and goals will come from his headers

He goes for balls he has no chance of winning all the time in the box. He is more of a hindrance to us up there.

Not the sharpest tool in the box.

[EgyptianPete]

I am as frustrated as anybody but you are correct about Bowyer. It's time to move on and look to the future. That is the only thing that Lambert and his staff (and us as supporters) can effect. We are painfully bad to watch at the moment but there are too many panic buttons being pressed (and I am guilty of this at times). The only way we are going to progress is by allowing Lambert to build his own squad. I am certain in my own mind that he knows what is and isn't needed and he pretty much knows that the current crop simply aren't good enough. Patience is the key to sorting out this mess I feel.

I imagine there will be a couple of loans this window, July will be the major exit and incomings of players, it is painfully obvious that this squad is well simply not good enough, okay for mid table but that's it.

Posters or should i say some posters are asking to stop harping on about bowyer etc., well to make it fair i.e.. apples to apples stop harping on about Lambert and villa simple. We all know this team apart from maybe 5 players are not good enough for a play off charge, Paul Lambert, Alan Irvine know this, give them an opportunity to change the first team, if we end up around mid table this season, get rid in July, bring in the new faces, i am sure we will be a major force again, Oh and i think there are six players out of contract so no need to pay off for a change. Only my opinions of course.

It's not a myth, Bowyer had this team performing better. You can see it with your own eyes.

Far from getting the pitchforks, but as starts go this has not been good.

Statistics say different

[K-Hod]

It's not a myth, Bowyer had this team performing better. You can see it with your own eyes.

Far from getting the pitchforks, but as starts go this has not been good.

That's just splitting hairs though. He's already won as many as Bowyer managed all season as well. Granted there's been a slide and things need to improve, but come on now.

[Speedie Dived]

Last night was tedious to watch at times.

Created some chances but our general play just doesn't get going.

Thought the new lad tried to get in behind, which was good to see, and had a bit of pace about him. But did disappear.

The ironic cheering of Brown was an absolute disgrace, he did well when he came on last night and showed how we improve when we have someone who can hold the ball up. One of the worst things i have ever heard from an Ewood crowd.

[JHRover]

Bowyer might have had this team performing better (though I'm not sure precisely what statistics are used to measure how good a performance is).

But the reality is that Lambert has got this team picking up more points than Bowyer did. And that's all that matters. Unless we'd prefer to go back to losing at home to the likes of Burnley but playing better football.

[ABBEY]

It's not a myth, Bowyer had this team performing better. You can see it with your own eyes.

Far from getting the pitchforks, but as starts go this has not been good.

My own eyes tell me lambert has us in a better position of safety than the much in demand and linked to every job bowyer.what proof have you that Bowyer was doing better?

Myth?

Give him a flaming chance !

He has brought in one player only ffs .

Yes its dire on the pitch but we've been dry bummed by venkys and to expect us to turn from garbage to barca in less than 10 games is quite bonkers .

[K-Hod]

Last night was tedious to watch at times.

Created some chances but our general play just doesn't get going.

Thought the new lad tried to get in behind, which was good to see, and had a bit of pace about him. But did disappear.

The ironic cheering of Brown was an absolute disgrace, he did well when he came on last night and showed how we improve when we have someone who can hold the ball up. One of the worst things i have ever heard from an Ewood crowd.

I thought in parts we were better, but we're not there yet by any stretch.

Brown has become the latest scapegoat and it's another embarrassing thing (along with the booing) that eminates from our crowd. I wonder why on earth people think that's helpful, I really do.

[Speedie Dived]

That's just splitting hairs though. He's already won as many as Bowyer managed all season as well. Granted there's been a slide and things need to improve, but come on now.

I am just saying that i enjoyed some performances under Bowyer, other times we were tripe under him. I can honestly say that i have enjoyed one half against Forrest under Lambert, that's all.

You will soon get people calling for Lambert to go, but with the same as Bowyer, the players are not good enough after the embargo.

It's just worrying how he is getting less out the players.

My own eyes tell me lambert has us in a better position of safety than the much in demand and linked to every job bowyer.what proof have you that Bowyer was doing better?

Myth?

Give him a flaming chance !

He has brought in one player only ffs .

Yes its dire on the pitch but we've been dry bummed by venkys and to expect us to turn from garbage to barca in less than 10 games is quite bonkers .

I will give him a greater/longer chance than many. Still doesn't mean we can't discuss us being sh1te.

We have been continually told on here that the players are good enough to go up and Lambert would get these players up.

The manager is nowhere near as important as good players are. We don't have many.

[K-Hod]

Good performances are nice, but only in conjunction with points on the board.

There was enough in this side last season to do better, but that discussion has been done to death.

[Speedie Dived]

I thought in parts we were better, but we're not there yet by any stretch.

Brown has become the latest scapegoat and it's another embarrassing thing (along with the booing) that eminates from our crowd. I wonder why on earth people think that's helpful, I really do.

I must admit, i get wound up by the crowd and a few around me. Some people really have no idea about what they are looking at.

The team are not very good but i can see they are trying and that's all you can ask really.

The whole match experience is now of a real concern to me, it's very poor. That lies squarely at the cretins feet.