[Archived] Rhodes To Boro

[chor808]

What the heck I've only logged off for the morning. I've chucked his poster on the fire last night.

[matt83]

Has he? Link please.

I thought he had although must admit I've no link.

But reading above may have done him a slight disservice as I've taken it from him saying something to the tune of he wants to play at a higher level it's why he came to us initially and it's why he wants to leave and go to Middlesbrough.

So my updated knowledge of the situation is both manager and player have gone to great lengths to avoid saying anything too meaty. But it seems clear to me Rhodes wanted to leave and lambert was happy to get the money. So the conundrum remains we have a player who would rather be elsewhere and a manager seemingly content to have the transfer fee.

Ps. I've nothing against Rhodes he's in my opinion our best player but if he stays he needs to do more for his 40k per week (give or take few pounds) than he's been doing since his heads been turned.

[yoda]

They were unaware of?? Boro need to sack whomever reads their contracts.

(Yes, I'm aware of the staggering irony in that statement).

Maybe Gibson had a reality check, How can the Rovers afford this guy, they must be bigger than us !

Doesn't reflect well on Rhodes. Obviously he's asking for more money, despite being on a lot here. Might be bad advice from his agent, but that might be his only chance of playing premiership football gone. When you're already a millionaire, that looks a bit foolish.

You don't know that yet, just maybe he did not want a pay cut, neither would I, they came a calling remember, should have done their homework better

[A cup of beans]

Stunned by this, but happens I suppose. They will of agreed terms in principle prior to the medical and known his wage etc so it is a real surprise that it has gone this far to all go wrong, given the official comments on their site, this has nothing to do with Venkys or Rovers (for a change), the basic wage will of been agreed in principle so I would imagine its probably agent fees, promotion bonus (or other bonus) or promotion pay rise that has caused it to all go horribly wrong.

If no one else comes in for him then at least we will get to see him playing up front with Watt, those two could work very very well together. From my perspective I would of preferred to strengthen the whole team rather than build the team around Rhodes, but still happy enough for him to stay. The good thing is neither PL or Rhodes burn't any bridges, PL stated the obvious that the money would strengthen the team as a whole and Rhodes made good comments both prior and after it falling through.

Superb summation.

I'll reserve further judgement until the facts come to light.

Never liked Boro, since they forfeited the 96 match.

[LewisF]

That team would be great. Direct high pressing.

and Hooahan would be a dream signing. Let's hope PL can pull a couple of rabbits out of his hat in the next 24 hours or so

[tomphil]

Could Boro have got the nod that their first target is now available and would be far cheaper in wages so they've tried to get Rhodes accepting less ?

If he was desperate to move there he would have taken a cut you'd think but Stuart touched on it by saying all agents will now have an eye on the next TV money. Wages will be flying up again, it's about time they capped it instead of faffing about with ffp.

[DE.]

Seems to be a lot of opinions on here that are based solely on twitter rumours and dodgy sites.

All we know is that a fee was agreed, but Boro and Rhodes couldn't come to an agreement over personal terms. That's it.

Rhodes' wages here were always going to be a stumbling block to another club in this league buying him. They'd have to at the very least match what he has here, along with a hefty transfer fee, signing on fee, bonuses, etc.

It leaves us in a difficult situation. Lambert might be wishing he'd kept his mouth shut until Rhodes had officially gone, though. His comments are going to make things awkward now if Rhodes isn't sold.

[LewisF]

Doesn't reflect well on Rhodes. Obviously he's asking for more money, despite being on a lot here. Might be bad advice from his agent, but that might be his only chance of playing premiership football gone. When you're already a millionaire, that looks a bit foolish.

Its baffling. If I was Rhodes, I'd take a pay cut to play at the highest level; still on God knows how much, albeit slightly less than before, but you're playing at a higher level. It'd be a no brainier for me. Not that I'm complaining like, hopefully we can kick on

[RibbleValleyRover]

He must be one of the highest paid players in the Championship already (certainly in the top 5 or 10), If he was really looking to add a significant increase to that then he or his agent or both have really screwed up.

But that's only if you take Boro's word for why the deal appears to have collapsed, there could be more to it than that. For example it's entirely possible that someone else has or is about to become available and they can get them for a cheaper price.

There is a lot of PR/spin going on during these transfer windows, it's doubtful we will know the real truth.

[AJW]

My guess is that he or his agent have had a whiff of a PL club showing an interest and have deliberately made the deal impossible to boro and Gibson , quite rightly , has told them to do one. West Brom and Everton have both been observing Rhodes position at Rovers for a while and IF another club has made contact with rovers I would expect it to be one of them imo it will be impossible now for him to go to boro

[chaddyrovers]

Everton are signing a striker from L.Moscow

Sky sports news are saying that Fulham have offered a new contract to McMormack

[Stuart]

Stunned by this, but happens I suppose. They will of agreed terms in principle prior to the medical and known his wage etc so it is a real surprise that it has gone this far to all go wrong, given the official comments on their site, this has nothing to do with Venkys or Rovers (for a change), the basic wage will of been agreed in principle so I would imagine its probably agent fees, promotion bonus (or other bonus) or promotion pay rise that has caused it to all go horribly wrong.

If no one else comes in for him then at least we will get to see him playing up front with Watt, those two could work very very well together. From my perspective I would of preferred to strengthen the whole team rather than build the team around Rhodes, but still happy enough for him to stay. The good thing is neither PL or Rhodes burn't any bridges, PL stated the obvious that the money would strengthen the team as a whole and Rhodes made good comments both prior and after it falling through.

Aargh. *have *have *have

Sorry to flame but it's a real pet hate of mine.

[had.e.nuff]

From Kamy on twitter

Looks like deal broke down due to Rhodes/his agent not backing down on clauses for bonus. Payments related to promotion etc. Very stupid on their part if this is true and fair play to Boro for standing firm on this.

Last Week on Talksport Peterborough United owner/chairman Darragh Macanthony were saying that some agents ask for more too much and sometimes don't tell the player the full truth. Listening to Macanthony was very good and he was open, honest and sometimes funny

Maybe they are the same clauses he has in his cotract now only more chance of getting them paid at middlesbrough

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

My guess is that he or his agent have had a whiff of a PL club showing an interest and have deliberately made the deal impossible to boro and Gibson , quite rightly , has told them to do one. West Brom and Everton have both been observing Rhodes position at Rovers for a while and IF another club has made contact with rovers I would expect it to be one of them imo it will be impossible now for him to go to boro

Rhodes isn't a Pullis style player.

[den]

The worst scenario now would be for Rhodes to stay. it wouldn't be good for him or us. We need to build on what we saw at Oxford (yes, I know it was only Oxford). We need to continue the change - not go backwards.

[PAFELL]

My guess is that he or his agent have had a whiff of a PL club showing an interest and have deliberately made the deal impossible to boro and Gibson , quite rightly , has told them to do one. West Brom and Everton have both been observing Rhodes position at Rovers for a while and IF another club has made contact with rovers I would expect it to be one of them imo it will be impossible now for him to go to boro

It about a promotion bonus - if boro go up.

Minor issue - so sale will probable go through.

[Mani]

I'm worried about where this leaves us...player wants out, manager is happy to get rid...Monday morning will be a bit awks!! 😬

[VinjayV4]

Anything is possible in Chaddy world,

Vinjay will be blaming the Trust any minute now

Got to echo some other sentiments this is good if he's here until the summer at least. Unless clubs try to drive the price down then.

Not because I'm worried about relegation but you never know with injury emergencies, etc. Look at 98/99.

[had.e.nuff]

It about a promotion bonus - if boro go up.

Minor issue - so sale will probable go through.

could just be bargaining point to get the price down at the last minute

[DE.]

Rhodes' camp suggesting they are "shocked" by Boro's change of heart suggests something has gone seriously awry. It would be quite weird if this transfer went through, now, after the public comments from both Boro and Rhodes.

Obviously at this point it would be best for all parties if something was resolved, but Venky's aren't known for backing down on transfer fees (if Boro attempted to negotiate a lower one) and it seems like any trust may have completely broken down between Rhodes and Boro anyway.

[Pedro]

Has he? Link please.

Yes. See Lambert's interviews on the topic. "Jordan said he wanted to go."

[Riverside67]

i think everyone will be grown up.

PL makes statement to rationalize and explain to a disappointed fan base. He does not really have a go at Rhodes

BRFC have not made a hash of things for once.

The players agent seems to have screwed up. The player himself says nothing disparaging about Rovers

PL gets a 20 goal a season player back now desperate to prove himself.

I think everyone will just get on with it.

[den]

Rhodes' camp suggesting they are "shocked" by Boro's change of heart suggests something has gone seriously awry. It would be quite weird if this transfer went through, now, after the public comments from both Boro and Rhodes.

Obviously at this point it would be best for all parties if something was resolved, but Venky's aren't known for backing down on transfer fees (if Boro attempted to negotiate a lower one) and it seems like any trust may have completely broken down between Rhodes and Boro anyway.

Rhodes camp are saying they're shocked because they can hardly admit that they couldn't agree personal terms.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

If Boro were still prepared to get this done then it would have been done by now. They wouldnt be putting statements on their websites saying that talks have broken down if there was any chance that Rhodes could still sign. The damage has now been done.

Not saying that Rhodes won't go elsewhere but I can't believe that Boro will continue to pursue this now. They've been negotiating for the whole weekend. Clearly they cant agree terms.

[DE.]

Rhodes camp are saying they're shocked because they can hardly admit that they couldn't agree personal terms.

Why they said it doesn't matter, the fact they've gone public with comments like that suggests the deal is dead in the water, imo.