[Archived] Rhodes To Boro

[philipl]

The Evening Telegraph article reminds us that Boro have been in for Rhodes THREE times.

If they don't know what his terms and conditions are, Boro are absolute planks....

This is looking worse and worse in terms of Boro's behaviour. They have absolutely hardballed Rhodes' agent and I wouldn't be surprised if Rhodes is going to the Smeggies to find out they are now offering terms appreciably worse than what he is on at Ewood.

[RevidgeBlue]

You really have it in for Lambert don't you. Nixon cannot possibly know the circumstances of any conversation Rhodes might have had with Lambert during his brief visit to Brockhall today.

Well I'm assuming the tone of what Nixon says is correct. Perhaps wrongly given his track record.

If PL has said "Jordan mate you might as well take the day off and see if anyone comes in for you, if not see you at 9a,m. tomorrow, then that obviously puts a completely different slant on it.

PL is obviously trying to play the hard man and "It's my way or the highway" card and I think it could end up going one of 2 ways. He could be wildly successful or the players could rebel completely and it will be a disaster. Would you say the players have reacted well to Lambert so far? I wouldn't.

I was thinking it was entirely the players' fault but after hearing of the way Lambert's going about the Rhodes saga I'm not so sure at the moment.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Come on Newcastle and Watford, let's have a frantic bidding war!

[Jim Royle]

More idiotic behaviour from Lambert should a deal somewhere else not come off today. Still has to get the best out of him should he come back.

You n Stu are just peeved that your little darling has been found out. Good finisher is what he is, but both lambert n bowyer wanted him out and you cant hack it that these guys know more about football than you.

Roughly £10m to our club is huge and should enable a proper squad to be assembled that is more functional than has been the case.

Next chapter please.

[BlueMonday]

Well I'm assuming the tone of what Nixon says is correct. Perhaps wrongly given his track record.

If PL has said "Jordan mate you might as well take the day off and see if anyone comes in for you, if not see you at 9a,m. tomorrow, then that obviously puts a completely different slant on it.

PL is obviously trying to play the hard man and "It's my way or the highway" card and I think it could end up going one of 2 ways. He could be wildly successful or the players could rebel completely and it will be a disaster. Would you say the players have reacted well to Lambert so far? I wouldn't.

I was thinking it was entirely the players' fault but after hearing of the way Lambert's going about the Rhodes saga I'm not so sure at the moment.

Well sky Sports confirming that JR is on his way to Boro for talks, so looks like Nixon is talking pap, as usual.

[Guest]

Where does this "Bowyer wanted him out" stuff come from?

True or not, I'm not sure we could've survived without Rhodes under a tactically inept manager. It really would've been Brown up front on his own.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Rhodes being a Rovers player tomorrow can't afford to happen. He needs to go so that we, as a club, can move on. Replacements at this stage are almost secondary.

Let's just get this done.

[Lancaster Rover]

I think the fact that absolutely nobody in the prem is willing to take a punt on Rhodes, for what is in premier league terms pocket change speaks volumes on how he is viewed in the wider footballing world.

[RevidgeBlue]

You n Stu are just peeved that your little darling has been found out. Good finisher is what he is, but both lambert n bowyer wanted him out and you cant hack it that these guys know more about football than you.

Roughly £10m to our club is huge and should enable a proper squad to be assembled that is more functional than has been the case.

Next chapter please.

My knowledge or lack thereof is irrelevant. Bowyer has failed thus far as a manager and Lambert has a decent overall track record but failed miserably most recently.

Lot to prove, although I think he will come good eventually.

No need whatsoever for any of this in the meantime though.

[J*B]

Every single club in the land knows Rhodes is available at that price.

Only Middlesborough willing to pay the money. That means only one thing - we're getting the better deal.

[Lancs Rover]

I'm also thinking of putting in a bill for lack of work getting done due to this Rhodes saga proving a major distraction. Where do I send it though and should I enclose a few clauses and a loyalty bonus for still supporting him if he stays ?

Use this website blocker. http://www.proginosko.com/leechblock/install/

I am as of now.

My course supervisor isn't going to take 'Jordan Rhodes nearly went to Boro' as an excuse for my assignment being late and full of mistakes.

[joey_big_nose]

Where does this "Bowyer wanted him out" stuff come from?

True or not, I'm not sure we could've survived without Rhodes under a tactically inept manager. It really would've been Brown up front on his own.

Im pretty sure Bowyer wanted to cash in for the last year.

[Parsonblue]

Well I'm assuming the tone of what Nixon says is correct. Perhaps wrongly given his track record.

If PL has said "Jordan mate you might as well take the day off and see if anyone comes in for you, if not see you at 9a,m. tomorrow, then that obviously puts a completely different slant on it.

PL is obviously trying to play the hard man and "It's my way or the highway" card and I think it could end up going one of 2 ways. He could be wildly successful or the players could rebel completely and it will be a disaster. Would you say the players have reacted well to Lambert so far? I wouldn't.

I was thinking it was entirely the players' fault but after hearing of the way Lambert's going about the Rhodes saga I'm not so sure at the moment.

The bottom line is that the manager must be allowed to manage as he sees fit. Having had a few months to assess the quality of the squad he has come to the conclusion that a major rebuild is necessary. It's just fortunate for Lambert that a player he doesn't fancy is also the one who can raise the most money for the rebuild. Even if Rhodes stayed at the club it is now highly unlikely that he will be anything more than a permanent bench warmer. Lambert is looking to the future and clearly Rhodes doesn't figure in that as the player is so keen to move away. This is a deal that really needs to be done for all concerned. Hopefully, Rhodes will now have spelt out to his agent the realities of life if the move isn't done.

[oldjamfan1]

Well I'm assuming the tone of what Nixon says is correct. Perhaps wrongly given his track record.

If PL has said "Jordan mate you might as well take the day off and see if anyone comes in for you, if not see you at 9a,m. tomorrow, then that obviously puts a completely different slant on it.

PL is obviously trying to play the hard man and "It's my way or the highway" card and I think it could end up going one of 2 ways. He could be wildly successful or the players could rebel completely and it will be a disaster. Would you say the players have reacted well to Lambert so far? I wouldn't.

I was thinking it was entirely the players' fault but after hearing of the way Lambert's going about the Rhodes saga I'm not so sure at the moment.

Its called leadership, but as I say, you seem to have a problem with it.

It is what this club has been crying out for since Sam left.

[davulsukur]

We could really do with this being completed very soon. No point in flogging Rhodes if we can't spend any of the cash.

Hopefully Lambert has deals lined up and ready to go once he gets the confirmation.

[EgyptianPete]

You really have it in for Lambert don't you. Nixon cannot possibly know the circumstances of any conversation Rhodes might have had with Lambert during his brief visit to Brockhall today.

Totally agree Niko up to his old tricks no doubt.

[RevidgeBlue]

Its called leadership, but as I say, you seem to have a problem with it.

It is what this club has been crying out for since Sam left.

The players reacted positively immediately to Sam's arrival. After a brief honeymoon period I'd say it has gone the other way with PL.

Understand and agree with your point about "lleadership" but "man management" is a a crucial part of modern management as well.

[G Somerset Rover]

We could really do with this being completed very soon. No point in flogging Rhodes if we can't spend any of the cash.

Hopefully Lambert has deals lined up and ready to go once he gets the confirmation.

Exactly. Although operation dumb down seems to be in full swing and some are happy to just cash in and get players in during the summer OR an emergency loan or two. We could bloody go down; we need a decent signing or two now.

[Dean]

I think the fact that absolutely nobody in the prem is willing to take a punt on Rhodes, for what is in premier league terms pocket change speaks volumes on how he is viewed in the wider footballing world.

Definitely. That along with the fact he's constantly overlooked for Scotland in favour of players with significantly inferior goal scoring records.

[toogs]

My knowledge or lack thereof is irrelevant. Bowyer has failed thus far as a manager and Lambert has a decent overall track record but failed miserably most recently.

Lot to prove, although I think he will come good eventually.

No need whatsoever for any of this in the meantime though.

Nicely Hedged.

[RevidgeBlue]

The bottom line is that the manager must be allowed to manage as he sees fit. Having had a few months to assess the quality of the squad he has come to the conclusion that a major rebuild is necessary. It's just fortunate for Lambert that a player he doesn't fancy is also the one who can raise the most money for the rebuild. Even if Rhodes stayed at the club it is now highly unlikely that he will be anything more than a permanent bench warmer. Lambert is looking to the future and clearly Rhodes doesn't figure in that as the player is so keen to move away. This is a deal that really needs to be done for all concerned. Hopefully, Rhodes will now have spelt out to his agent the realities of life if the move isn't done.

Generally fair comment but only a fool would think it was a good idea to have our major asset permanently consigned to the bench. By all means start him on the bench following this episode if other strikers are doing the business but if they're not then judge the situation on merit and don't leave an established goalscorer out because of spite.

Anyhow, .If Rhodes doesn't move today and is here until summer, he might outlast Lambert unless he pulls his finger out.

[Guest]

Anyone desperate for this deal not to happen and for Rhodes to stay at the Rovers?

If the player wants to leave, I'm not so sure anyone with a bit of perspective could be desperate for this not to happen. No point keeping an unhappy camper, particularly with the amounts of money that will be freed up to allow Lambert to build what he wants in summer.

On another note, let's not forget that Graham and Watt are only on loan. If we want to keep them permanently, then that could be a large portion of the Rhodes money used up.

[oldjamfan1]

The players reacted positively immediately to Sam's arrival. After a brief honeymoon period I'd say it has gone the other way with PL.

Understand and agree with your point about "lleadership" but "man management" is a a crucial part of modern management as well.

Without wanting it to look like I'm making it a personal argument between me and you, Lambert has lots of other men to manage as well as Rhodes, which is what a lot of this seems to be about. That's where leadership comes into it. Your earlier point about the players not having responded to Lambert thus far is classic 'forming', from Tuckman's 'forming, storming, norming and performing' stages of group development. PL has only been here for 5 minutes. Think back to Kendall and Hughes' first few months in the job - very similar performances and results and they turned out okay didn't they?

[islander200]

If the player wants to leave, I'm not so sure anyone with a bit of perspective could be desperate for this not to happen. No point keeping an unhappy camper, particularly with the amounts of money that will be freed up to allow Lambert to build what he wants in summer.

On another note, let's not forget that Graham and Watt are only on loan. If we want to keep them permanently, then that could be a large portion of the Rhodes money used up.

Reported 1m fee for watt and Graham is out of contract at the end of the season

[Lancaster Rover]

Without wanting it to look like I'm making it a personal argument between me and you, Lambert has lots of other men to manage as well as Rhodes, which is what a lot of this seems to be about. That's where leadership comes into it. Your earlier point about the players not having responded to Lambert thus far is classic 'forming', from Tuckman's 'forming, storming, norming and performing' stages of group development. PL has only been here for 5 minutes. Think back to Kendall and Hughes' first few months in the job - very similar performances and results and they turned out okay didn't they?

Lambert putting all his efforts and energies into placating Rhodes will only serve to split the group as well, putting all your energy into the 'problem child' turns the good kids against you. Text book management stuff all this. He's clearly been reading Prof. John Oliver (leyland DAF) book.